[Julio]

Originally Posted by Busterovic

They're both incredible indoors. Probably the 2 best in the world indoors to be honest

It's not really about that but Fed's serve is working much better when roof is closed. Awesome machine.

[Julio]

Some stats from Wimbledon.org, guys :

Federer: tournament stats

Aces / Double Faults
59/8

First serves in
66%

First / second serve points won
79% / 61%

Service games won
91

Fastest serve / average first serve speed
128/115

Returns in play
72%

Break points won
34/77

FH winners / BH winners / overall winners
78/33/222

Unforced errors
88

Total net points won
139/194

Total court time
12.09

Longest match
3.34

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Murray : tournament stats

Aces / Double Faults
74/17

First serves in
63%

First / second serve points won
77% / 65%

Service games won/lost
103-9

Fastest serve / average first serve speed
135/117

Returns in play
75%

Break points won/total
28/76

FH winners / BH winners / overall winners
81/38/237

Unforced errors
103

Total net points won
99/151

Total court time
16.45

Longest match
3.52

[Dublin Mick]

Fed very heavy stakes for me, not going to write the amount here but am betting the fucking Farm.

[robby191]

i believe fed will win, he`ll do his thing, maybe not as good as friday, but close. the key is murray`s mental status, he knows he`s close to history for UK, and he may chicken out a bit, wouldn`t be the first time..

[robby191]

but enough with that, same odds on dutra da silva vs polansky, and there is a bigger difference between the players imo, so dutra @ 1.50 is worth it just like fed, maybe more.

[Busterovic]

Originally Posted by Julio

It's not really about that but Fed's serve is working much better when roof is closed. Awesome machine.

lol. why?

[robby191]

flat serve, less air resistance, seems pretty logic to me

[Busterovic]

Originally Posted by robby191

flat serve, less air resistance, seems pretty logic to me

that wasn't the question. the point was that I said Fed is one of the best in the world and he said "no its not really about that".

[Julio]

Originally Posted by robby191

flat serve, less air resistance, seems pretty logic to me

Thanks Robby.

[August]

I think Andy has always played relatively well at Wimby. I'd say his SF loss in 2008 was the only lost match he should've won. and he hasn't been playing badly this year. Roger is playing well, too, be we must remember this isn't anymore the pre-08 JesusFed. And we don't know how the home crowd affects to Andy. At least he can't play much worse than in his previous slam finals, but maybe home crowd gives him the right spirit. Anyway, I'd say Roger is about 60:40 favourite. And my bet is Murray @ 2.75.

[nastoff]

Originally Posted by nastoff

Not sure why I'm not picking "the meastro" to win, while it's so "obvious". I'm struggling between going for over 3 sets ( low odds ) or Murray in the handicap (high odds but high risk too). I have a feeling though that Federer won't be as good as against Djokovic and Murray won't be as bad.
Decisions, decisions...

oh well...

over 3.5 sets @ 1.40

win

time to enjoy the rest of the match

[ryydman]

Originally Posted by ryydman

Maestro @ 1.55

Allez!

Cheers Maestro...

[cardio]

Originally Posted by cardio

Fed is not consistent as he was 5 years ago. Usually he plays one good match, then couple of bad matches and so on... Now he already played his good match vs top opponent, kept his UE to minimum, served like beast. Of course Djokovic being sub par helped him too.

But final is another day, another opponent, I doubt if Fed can play this flawless game again.IMO, we have same problem what we had in SF - favorite is underpriced. 1.5 is price which would be juicy in 2006 Wimby final against any opposition, now we have 2012 ...it looks kinda short.Basically we have simple question : which Fed shows up - Serverer, Olderer or Shankerer ? I dont know.

I know every person with sane mind stays out of it, but I´m not sane, most of us here are addicts. So here we go :

Murray over Federer @2.7

Murka- Fed 4 sets @2.55

GL

Loss
Win
At least won little money...

[Busterovic]

Originally Posted by Busterovic

How often is the word epic overused? Not in this case. The implications are dramatic and its almost guaranteed that one of the top 4 players of our sport will be jaded for a very, very long time come Sunday evening.

If Federer loses you know he'll be heavily doubting his chances to nail #17 down. I'm sure he still believes in his mind that he's just as capable of winning the USO, the AO and Wimby as Nadal and Nole (as well he should), but Federer hasn't won a slam since his 2010 title in Melbourne which was 30 months ago, the longest drought of his career.

This isn't playing Nadal in Paris. He's favored against a guy he's never dropped a set to in a Grand Slam final. If Roger loses this, its going to have a negative long term impact on his psyche.

For Murray, the ramifications are obvious. Its very comparable to the pressure LeBron has faced the last 2 years. When James bowed out last year against Dallas, he bounced back better than ever. I don't see that with Murray, if he bites the bullet, it may be a long, painful recovery.

This to me is probably the most highly anticipated slam in recent times because it pits the greatest player ever going for his first in 30 months and potentially his last ever (although I genuinely believe Federer will play till hes 35. He'll be top 5-10 till then and still be a contender at slams) with a guy who's slam-less and is going for #1 at Wimbledon of all places.

If you can't get up for this you shouldn't watch sports.

At the end though, Federer is back to his ethereal level he showed in Dubai and Rotterdam. When Roger Federer has 10 UE in a 4 set match against Djokovic (he had 62 in 3 sets just 3 weeks ago at RG against Nole), you know hes playing electrifying tennis.

Murray folded against the pressure in 2010 at Melbourne. Now, the pressure is multiplied by 10000000x and Federer is playing better tennis. Only one winner here.

Roger Federer to win Wimbledon over Muzza @ 1.53

W

What an effort, just classic perfect Federer.

Muzza played as well as he could the first 2 sets and was only tied at 1 set apiece.

Federer was consistent throughout all 4 sets and just wore on Murray.

[nastoff]

it was all to do with the roof closing, Federer was too hot and cold in the first 2 sets...after that he was almost unplayable.