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Old 07-06-2012, 09:53 AM   #31
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Djokovic vs Tsonga, French Open Roland Garros 2012 – Tsonga had the match but not the physical fitness. He's a strong "beef niggah", but he's by no means as physically fit as the top four. After the match (from which it was already obvious) he personally said he needs to get in shape, more physically fit, and improve his condition.
Are you even aware that there is difference playing 30 stroke rallies in the 5th set on clay vs world fittest baseline grinder and one-two punch tennis on grass ?! Tsonga was never clay hero,and he probably never will,being built like heavyweight boxer.Clay is his worst surface, few years back he even didnt have ANY clay wins whatsoever.

Grass on the other hand is whole different matter. If it goes into fifth, I dont expect Murray to have any big fitness advantage over Jo, then it all depends how players mind works and who blinks first on his serve.

But no need to argue here further. After few hours we know what happened on Centre Court, who came through and who failed to do so.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:03 AM   #32
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murray is 1.33 at tab think everyone is parlaying it with joker murray deserves to be fav but no way that short jo is serving like karlovic cept he has a ground game and i doubt they will call ffs fuk i wish i could put my right nut on hold for some credit with the bookie
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Are you even aware that there is difference playing 30 stroke rallies in the 5th set on clay vs world fittest baseline grinder and one-two punch tennis on grass ?! Tsonga was never clay hero,and he probably never will,being built like heavyweight boxer.Clay is his worst surface, few years back he even didnt have ANY clay wins whatsoever.

Grass on the other hand is whole different matter. If it goes into fifth, I dont expect Murray to have any big fitness advantage over Jo, then it all depends how players mind works and who blinks first on his serve.

But no need to argue here further. After few hours we know what happened on Centre Court, who came through and who failed to do so.
Good point indeed, but I have my doubts (albeit not as much anymore )

Good luck and have a great weekend everyone!
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:38 PM   #34
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Djokovic is human after all and Federer upped the tempo and played the crucial points very well.
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Fed vs Joker Over 41.5pts(1.87)!

Wilfred vs Mugrray Over 41.5pts(1.87)!

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I cant remember the last time Roger lost in straights sets in a SF,aswell as at Wimbledon on grass on his favourite surface where he's won the most titles!Also this is the very 1st matchup at Wimbledon for the 2 which is incredible to think of!Expect Roger to come out blazing(hopefully controlled aggression) while Joker starts getting use to the circumstances!

Fed/Joker Yes Tie brk 1.45/Mugrray/Wilfred Yes Tie brk 1.45 @ 2.10 - At worse Andy in straight set with a tie brk,same with Joker!

Fed 1st set winner 2.50 - Small backbet on Joker 7-6(5.50) -Fed's matches is like HOT/COLD/HOT/COLD/HOT!

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Murka is clearly too short IMO( 1.43 in pinnacle now), maybe even more than Djoko. We have to consider huge media pressure, which almost always causes problems for Murray. Fact that he already failed 3 times in SF stage, cant help him either.

Tsonga being not enough fit to win long match, 5-setter ?! Fact tell us another story.

Tsonga played total 12 5-setters on slams:
8 wins, 4 losses.

This includes destroying Djokovic in 5th set of AO QF 2010 6-1 and spanking Federer in last year Wimby from two sets to love down.Fact that he couldnt last 5- set grinding marathon on clay vs Djoko, is irrelevant here, grass is not clay.

And BTW, I dont think that BG or anyone else here who has sane mind, make his bets based on who he likes or hates. I for example cant stand Nadull, but if I think he has good chance for upset or if he is overpriced fav( like in Monte Carlo this year), I have no problems to back him.
I think the "fit" comment was based moreso on the fact that he got hurt in Queens and was having back problems, which has been a problem in the past, agaisnt Fish.
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Djokovic vs Tsonga, French Open Roland Garros 2012 – Tsonga had the match but not the physical fitness. He's a strong "beef niggah", but he's by no means as physically fit as the top four. After the match (from which it was already obvious) he personally said he needs to get in shape, more physically fit, and improve his condition.
I tend to agree with this. Breaking down against Djokovic 2011/12 is nothing to be ashamed of. He essentially broke down NADAL of all people in Melbourne, so I don't think thats quite the issue.

But Tsonga would definitely benefit in multiple ways from probably dropping about 10 pounds. Its no coincidence that the top 3 guys in the world are nowhere near 200 pounds (and they're all basically just as tall as Tsonga).
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Murray carried abit of wait b4,but has lost it!
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Murray carried abit of wait b4,but has lost it!
Exactly. Under McClagan Murray put on some weight which included a 4000 calorie diet of protein to get bigger but Nole is the guy that really figured it out.

One Nole went on his gluten free diet, Murray followed course and dropped some weight as well. He was never Tsonga big, but he did shed pounds.

Tsonga has done amazingly well for himself. From being a well overweight guy who struggled to crack the top 100 and be relevant to being a top 5 player in the world with that backhand speaks volumes about how much stride hes made, and theres no guarantee that the weight loss will win a slam, he might just not be good enough.

But shedding pounds and changing his diet would definitely help Jo Willy to not get hurt as much as he does and it would have made a difference in Paris this year for sure.
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Exactly. Under McClagan Murray put on some weight which included a 4000 calorie diet of protein to get bigger but Nole is the guy that really figured it out.

One Nole went on his gluten free diet, Murray followed course and dropped some weight as well. He was never Tsonga big, but he did shed pounds.

Tsonga has done amazingly well for himself. From being a well overweight guy who struggled to crack the top 100 and be relevant to being a top 5 player in the world with that backhand speaks volumes about how much stride hes made, and theres no guarantee that the weight loss will win a slam, he might just not be good enough.

But shedding pounds and changing his diet would definitely help Jo Willy to not get hurt as much as he does and it would have made a difference in Paris this year for sure.
Wilfred is 27,this is about your maximum peak!Dont think Tsonga can shed that much wait,if he did it wouldnt be much cos you cant over do it!Things are working for him just fine,maybe abit more fitness and it will be the difference from make to break!I think Wilfred's main problem is the attacking backhand,if he could improve on that then all the pieces adds up with big serve,movement,volley!He would love to have a Joker/Nadal/Murray/ backhand!
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