[Hewitt =Legend]

So that means...

Hass > Muzza...????

Ajde..???

[stewietennis]

Originally Posted by Hewitt =Legend

So that means...

Hass > Muzza...????

Ajde..???

Who is Hass? Do you mean Haas or Hasse?

[Fireballer]

I dont think so really

[BroTree123]

Djokovic > Murray

[Fireballer]

Originally Posted by BroTree123

Djokovic > Murray

true but Andy is a good player too

[Branimir]

Nemesisssssssssss

[Radalek]

StG is trying really hard to find a way to make it easier for his Clay God including finding someone else to beat Djokovic so his Clay God doesn't have to face him. Dubai was a glimmer of hope for him but it's gone now just like dust in the wind or this thread that managed to become new source of Fail.

[Marc23]

Originally Posted by Fireballer

true but Andy is a good player too

Nobody said he isn't...

But their career achievements so far say that Djokovic is for now a better player!

H2H 8 : 5

GS titles 5 : 0

Highest ranking 1 : 2

Career titles 30 : 22

Year End Championships 1 : 0

Masters titles 11 : 8

Davis Cup 1 : 0

OI best singles result bronze : first round

etc.

[bouncer7]

Originally Posted by Marc23

Nobody said he isn't...

But their career achievements so far say that Djokovic is for now a better player!

H2H 8 : 5

GS titles 5 : 0

Highest ranking 1 : 2

Career titles 30 : 22

Year End Championships 1 : 0

Masters titles 11 : 8

Davis Cup 1 : 0

OI best singles result bronze : first round

etc.

stats mean nothing

[Start da Game]

Originally Posted by Radalek

StG is trying really hard to find a way to make it easier for his Clay God including finding someone else to beat Djokovic so his Clay God doesn't have to face him. Dubai was a glimmer of hope for him but it's gone now just like dust in the wind or this thread that managed to become new source of Fail.

SdG never looks for a messiah.....SdG believes in creating his own path to glory......

it is clear as day that once again it has come down to the greatest fighter in the history of tennis to put an end to this ongoing domination.....good luck beating nadal in montecarlo, rome and french open.....

don't overlook murray......he got beat because the match was on one of the slowest hardcourts on the tour, ranking right up there with indian wells, world toast finals in terms of slowness......

[zcess81]

Originally Posted by Start da Game

SdG never looks for a messiah.....SdG believes in creating his own path to glory......

it is clear as day that once again it has come down to the greatest fighter in the history of tennis to put an end to this ongoing domination.....good luck beating nadal in montecarlo, rome and french open.....

don't overlook murray......he got beat because the match was on one of the slowest hardcourts on the tour, ranking right up there with indian wells, world toast finals in terms of slowness......

If that's the case than Nadal would have won Miami/WTF multiple times as he is the main player contributing from slow surfaces. With fast hard court/grass surfaces, Rafa can say bye bye to pretty much any grand slam other than French Open.

[Fireballer]

Originally Posted by Start da Game

SdG never looks for a messiah.....SdG believes in creating his own path to glory......

it is clear as day that once again it has come down to the greatest fighter in the history of tennis to put an end to this ongoing domination.....good luck beating nadal in montecarlo, rome and french open.....

don't overlook murray......he got beat because the match was on one of the slowest hardcourts on the tour, ranking right up there with indian wells, world toast finals in terms of slowness......

[Start da Game]

Originally Posted by zcess81

If that's the case than Nadal would have won Miami/WTF multiple times as he is the main player contributing from slow surfaces. With fast hard court/grass surfaces, Rafa can say bye bye to pretty much any grand slam other than French Open.

rafa does not benefit from slowness as much as federer or djokovic......slow surfaces are an antidote to his top spin.....his forehands sit up and don't penetrate on slow courts.....on fast courts, they really take off and take the opponent out of position quickly.....

the only advantage he has on slow courts is his return of serve.....he gets slightly more time to return......as he returns with the wrong hand, his reflexes won't be as fast.....

[zcess81]

Originally Posted by Start da Game

rafa does not benefit from slowness as much as federer or djokovic......slow surfaces are an antidote to his top spin.....his forehands sit up and don't penetrate on slow courts.....on fast courts, they really take off and take the opponent out of position quickly.....

the only advantage he has on slow courts is his return of serve.....he gets slightly more time to return......as he returns with the wrong hand, his reflexes won't be as fast.....

Djokovic benefits from slow surfaces (although not as much as Nadal), but saying that Federer benefits more from slow surfaces than Nadal is just...

Slow surfaces are CRUCIAL for Nadal, and not just for return of serve. The main reason why he DEPENDS on slow surfaces is that it gives him TIME (get in position, defend, grind, tire opponents, play behind baseline). Take the time away from Nadal and you take away his game.

[Start da Game]

Originally Posted by zcess81

Djokovic benefits from slow surfaces (although not as much as Nadal), but saying that Federer benefits more from slow surfaces than Nadal is just...

Slow surfaces are CRUCIAL for Nadal, and not just for return of serve. The main reason why he DEPENDS on slow surfaces is that it gives him TIME (get in position, defend, grind, tire opponents, play behind baseline). Take the time away from Nadal and you take away his game.

i am speaking in relative terms among the three players in discussion......on slow surfaces, federer has time to run around, pick a side and dictate with his strength(forehand)......like a cunning witch, he enjoys slow courts, wins 6 out of last 8 titles on fucking slow courts and talks as if he is being affected by slow courts......

slow surfaces aid nadal's return of serve but when it comes to defending, it actually does not make any difference......nadal is a rabbit everywhere and he defends well on every surface......

fast courts actually push him to pass frequently off the backhand and he is at his best doing that......instead if you give him time on the backhand, he will most likely dump it right in the middle of the court.....

on faster surfaces, federer would have zero prayer against nadal......unless federer serves at 90%, he is not going to beat nadal......i was never surprised that federer never once in his career beat nadal on a fast court......they played 4 to 5 matches on fast courts, nadal took them all.....