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Old 03-18-2012, 02:50 AM   #31
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Default Re: Is Isner better right now than Roddick has ever been?

rodholio has done nothing on davis cup clay.
rodholio beat no top 10 player in davis cup competition.
rodholio never played 5 sets on clay vs. nadal and djoker... rodholio choked on set point before he could hurt a teen nadal on clay.
rodholio rarely won a match against murray, nadal, federer and djokovic the last 2 years.

isner has never choked 3 match points against federer.

isner never lost 4 set points and 0-40 opportunities against federer.

isner never lost 17 break point chances in a federer match.

isner wins.
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Old 03-18-2012, 02:54 AM   #32
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absolutely not, what a stupid comment to make
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Old 03-18-2012, 02:59 AM   #33
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Default Re: Is Isner better right now than Roddick has ever been?

Nope
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I like Isner much better and I still say NO on this one.
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Old 03-18-2012, 03:37 AM   #35
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Djokovic 2011 yeah but Djokovic 2007/2008 no way. Roddick at prime is extremely underrated and the only reason his talent at the time and the great height of his talent was ignored is mainly due to the fact Federer was so often across the net and on the front of newspapers.
Djokovic beat Roddick in 2 sets in 2007 Montreal. Lost to Roddick in Dubai 2008 and beat him in USO that year.
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Old 03-18-2012, 03:40 AM   #36
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This thread is idiotic, heretic, naive, moronic; a sin against Roddick's legacy to the game and his magnificent ass.

I am disgusted.
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Old 03-18-2012, 03:43 AM   #37
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"John Isner is better right now than Andy Roddick has ever been"

"Yes, Roddick had a major, but in an era way less than today's. Isner plays better -- serve, net, forehand, backhand, never-die"

"I agree Roddick is more accomplished than Isner. And UR right, Isner has the ease of being on way up. But Isner in tougher era"

Do you agree with Greg?
Yes. I'm a Roddick fan and I've followed the majority of his career but the answer is yes. Isner has been on a steady incline ever since RG last year.

He took Nadal to 5 there which has rarely ever been done. He then won Newport and made deep runs in Washington and Atlanta. Won another title in Winston Salem, reached the quarters of USO and the semis of Paris

Follow that up with wins over Federer and Djokovic in 2012? It may not last long and of course he'll never duplicate the longevity of Roddick but as of right now you have to say he's playing better tennis than Roddick ever has.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:05 AM   #38
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Sorry no, not even close. Roddick is twice the player Isner will ever be.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:24 AM   #39
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Djokovic beat Roddick in 2 sets in 2007 Montreal. Lost to Roddick in Dubai 2008 and beat him in USO that year.
Roddick nowhere near his best in 2007 .... point is Roddick at his best moments can beat anyone and the same can't be said about Isner
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Default Re: Is Isner better right now than Roddick has ever been?

Roddick lost to Federer 8 times in a slam (1 QF, 3 SF and 1 F) so if Federer didn't ever play tennis Roddick could probably win at least 3 or 4 slams, specially Wimbledon 09
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Default Re: Is Isner better right now than Roddick has ever been?

Isner groundstrokes are horrible and he can only win 7-6 for any set whereas Roddick don't need 7-6, he can win 6-3 against anyone, Federer/Nadal/Djokovic/Murray included. Also his serve is only good 'cause it bounces high for his height similarly to karlovic but karlovic is better in this aspect. Once the serve is read he gets broken. Roddick outpowers people.

Thats one difference, the rest about consistency in slams no need to debate.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:15 AM   #42
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Default Re: Is Isner better right now than Roddick has ever been?

roddick was lucky to beat an injured opponent in the 3rd set tiebreak in 2006 cincinnati and a sickly djoker in australia 2009. otherwise, he would've had no top 5 ranking since 2006.
isner is far superior on clay and indoor hardcourts and moves patiently and lasts 5-6 hours on court.

roddick is mince meat in 3 hour matches. there rarely was a plan b for him because his only strategy involved 1) harrassing linesmen & umpire,
2) insulting opponents
3) act really nice later on to make himself look great
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:22 AM   #43
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Isner is far better. Isner has 3 big weapons. Serve, forehand and net play. Roddick has only a serve and yet it is inferior to Isner's. Roddick's groundstrokes and volleys suck. Roddick is a class B retriever. Isner plays offense and is capable of taking a match out of Nadal's, Djokovic's or Federer's hands. Roddick can NEVER claim to control a match against any of these 3 players.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:48 AM   #44
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Default Re: Is Isner better right now than Roddick has ever been?

Isn't it a little too early to be making such a determination?

EDIT: Well if it's "right now" vs. "entire career", I'd have to say no.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:26 AM   #45
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Default Re: Is Isner better right now than Roddick has ever been?

Roddick haters unite in this thread. Zzz, I hate how much hate Roddick gets. Pretty unfair. Just because HE wasn't exactly the next Sampras, doesn't mean he is a total failure, yet no one is ragging on other true one-slam wonders like they do with Roddick.

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Isner is far better. Isner has 3 big weapons. Serve, forehand and net play. Roddick has only a serve and yet it is inferior to Isner's. Roddick's groundstrokes and volleys suck. Roddick is a class B retriever. Isner plays offense and is capable of taking a match out of Nadal's, Djokovic's or Federer's hands. Roddick can NEVER claim to control a match against any of these 3 players.
Sure, maybe not now consistently, but he used to pound that ball to oblivion 2001-2004, and there have been several matches since then when he has shown us his best like IW/Miami 2010, Dubai 2008, Cincinnati 2006, among others.
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