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mlrf11 · 03-14-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ApproachShot

His win over Raonic in Indian Wells marked his 75th consecutive victory over players ranked outside the top 20.

He's great at always. He is great with or without this result but of cource it's nice.
Tonight he has Bellucci #50 so please Roger, go to 76th...

ApproachShot · 03-16-2012, 11:24 PM

He did indeed go to #76 against Bellucci. What's more, the victory in the quarter final against del Potro was his 250th at Masters level tournaments (a record).

JanKowalski · 03-17-2012, 04:12 AM

Doesn't Agassi have 251? Wikipedia could be wrong though. Nadal has 215, I think.

JediFed · 03-17-2012, 04:44 AM

The only relevant Agassi records are the golden slam, total career HC grand slam wins (127 vs 124), overall tour wins, (870 vs 827), overall HC wins (598 vs 512), overall outdoor wins (702 vs 610),

He has a shot at number 2 on the grass wins (he's just 17 behind McEnroe), if he does well at Wimbly and plays Halle. It's the only record earned from his 'generation' of Tennis that he doesn't own (thanks to Hewitt being 3 ahead).

Hewitt's actually 8th all time.

Fed also needs just 3 more indoor wins to get on the top 10 list.

JediFed · 03-17-2012, 04:54 AM

Federer's approaching another record here:

He's just 8 weeks shy of Sampras's record number of weeks at 1,2 and 3.

73 + 91 + 285 = 441 total weeks Federer
81 + 90 + 286 = 449 total weeks Sampras
270 + 60 + 68 = 398 total weeks Lendl
72 + 104 + 166= 342 total weeks Edberg
227 + 102 + ? = 329 total weeks Nadal
268 + ? + ? = 268 total weeks Connors

He would reach it before Rome, assuming he maintains his ranking. Fed has clinched number 3 for another three weeks, bringing him just 5 shy of Sampras.

A win vs Nadal, will put him out of reach until April 23rd, putting him just 3 weeks shy of Sampras's record.

JanKowalski · 03-17-2012, 01:19 PM

@JediFed
Who decides which records are relevant? You?

Like I said, wikipedia has Agassi at 251 Masters wins, which wouldn't make Fed's 250 a record.

Chirag · 03-18-2012, 09:52 PM

He now has the record of most titles in slams ,masters 1000 and the year end championships .Thats rare really

JanKowalski · 03-18-2012, 10:29 PM

He's tied with Nadal in Masters 1000.

JediFed · 03-19-2012, 02:20 AM

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Like I said, wikipedia has Agassi at 251 Masters wins, which wouldn't make Fed's 250 a record.

You are gravely mistaken. Agassi only has 209 Masters series wins. He's actually 3rd, behind Nadal who just surpassed him. Federer passed Agassi several years ago, (and was remarked on then).

If you have a source for this, I'd love to see it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_World_Tour_records

1. Roger Federer 252
2. Rafael Nadal 215
3. Andre Agassi 209

Kat_YYZ · 03-19-2012, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JediFed

You are gravely mistaken. Agassi only has 209 Masters series wins. He's actually 3rd, behind Nadal who just surpassed him. Federer passed Agassi several years ago, (and was remarked on then).

If you have a source for this, I'd love to see it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_World_Tour_records

1. Roger Federer 252
2. Rafael Nadal 215
3. Andre Agassi 209

I think I might have figured out why the discrepancy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_A...eer_statistics
If you go to this page for Agassi's records, it doesn't say "251" anywhere, but I added up all the wins in the ATP Masters Series table, and they add up to 251.

However, there's a note on the page underneath that table: Tournaments were designated as the 'Masters Series' only after the ATP took over the running of the men's tour in 1990. So, Andre's wins at some of these tournaments from 1987-1989 (Indian Wells, Miami, Rome, Canada, Madrid) before they were designated "Masters Series" don't count as wins at Masters Series tournaments. I guess.

JediFed · 03-19-2012, 04:03 AM

Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Good find.

They've been doing research into 'top level' events as well, which would try to take the masters all they way back to 1970 or so. Fed's right up there with the greats even then.

Chirag · 03-19-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JanKowalski

He's tied with Nadal in Masters 1000.

yes but tied first

wackykid · 03-19-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JediFed

Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Good find.

They've been doing research into 'top level' events as well, which would try to take the masters all they way back to 1970 or so. Fed's right up there with the greats even then.

oh well... since roger now has 252 wins... the "debate" over whether agassi has 215 or 251 is moot.... since 252 > 251....

regards,
wacky

JanKowalski · 03-19-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat_YYZ

I think I might have figured out why the discrepancy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_A...eer_statistics
If you go to this page for Agassi's records, it doesn't say "251" anywhere, but I added up all the wins in the ATP Masters Series table, and they add up to 251.

However, there's a note on the page underneath that table: Tournaments were designated as the 'Masters Series' only after the ATP took over the running of the men's tour in 1990. So, Andre's wins at some of these tournaments from 1987-1989 (Indian Wells, Miami, Rome, Canada, Madrid) before they were designated "Masters Series" don't count as wins at Masters Series tournaments. I guess.

Yes, that's what I meant.

And yes, since Fed now has 252, it's moot.

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Originally Posted by kingiskingfineon

yes but tied first

Well then he also has the record of ATP500 wins (tied with Sampras).

ApproachShot · 03-19-2012, 02:03 PM

It's the end of a successful week for Roger with title #73 from final #103. He wins Indian Wells for the 4th time, which is a record. It has been noted that he is tied in 1st place for the most Masters 1000 tournaments won (19, alongside Nadal) although he has the record for the most appearances in the final (31, compared to Rafa's 29). Needless to say he extended his lead in the most Masters 1000 semifinals reached (he has 42, Nadal has 40).

The victory in the finals was his 14th hard court Masters 1000 title, which puts him alone above Agassi's 13. He extended his record of most hard court tournaments won, with 51 now. In fact in the Open Era he is the only player to have won more than 50 tournaments on a single surface.

He also took a step towards regaining the #2 ranking, which he just needs to hold for 1 more week to surpass Sampras' mark of 376 weeks. As JediFed noted, we have entered his 449th week in the top 3 (having spent 285 weeks as #1, 91 weeks as #2 and 73 (and counting) weeks at #3.

And yes as it has been noted, he currently holds the record for the most Grand Slam tournaments won (outright record holder with 16), most World Tour Final tournament wins (outright record holder with 6), most Masters 1000 tournament wins (ties Nadal with 19) and most ATP 500 tournament wins (ties Sampras with 12). He is the only person to hold or share the record number of tournament wins in all 4 of these categories concurrently.

Also I forgot to mention after his spell at Rotterdam and Dubai that he now holds the outright record for the number of ATP 500 finals reached (he has participated in 16 finals, Becker is 2nd with 14 and Sampras / Nadal are tied on 13).