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Old 03-14-2012, 12:30 PM   #46
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That's because the opposition either didn't bother to get it, or they tried to get it but they, for example, stretched for it but missed it and the ball goes past the opponent and goes to the stands/wall....then they celebrate.

The rule still stands. If you have the chance to even touch the ball before it bounces twice (but NOT necessarily having the chance to get it back), it is still hindrance if you celebrate before the point is over.
well yeah, touching would be enough then for hindrance
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:33 PM   #47
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Why is this even a thread? Rules are rules and it couldn't be more blatant. "Right or wrong" would assume some sort of debate or uncertainty...there is absolutely none here.

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Speaking of rules, however, why enforce some and not others? Take for example the amount of time allotted between points. The inconsistency is highly irksome.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:53 PM   #49
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If Ebden was a pure sportsman who holds sportsmanship in the highest regard, he wouldn't have complained to the umpire because he knew he wasn't gonna make it anyway. Even if the umpire called hindrance, Ebden would have said "No. It's fine. I couldn't make the shot anyway"....
Who does that? It sounds like a noble attitude, but this sport is about winning, not giving the other guy a point he screwed up all by himself.

If you are in a position to make a play, no matter if your chances are high or low to actually win the point, you're not gonna give it away like that.

Ebden did what he had to do, he ran to the ball and took the present that Fish gave to him.. and one thing that everybody knows who plays and/ or watches tennis - you accept any present your opponent gives to you (:

Doesn't have to to anything with bad sportsmanship imo
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Who does that? It sounds like a noble attitude, but this sport is about winning, not giving the other guy a point he screwed up all by himself.

If you are in a position to make a play, no matter if your chances are high or low to actually win the point, you're not gonna give it away like that.

Ebden did what he had to do, he ran to the ball and took the present that Fish gave to him.. and one thing that everybody knows who plays and/ or watches tennis - you accept any present your opponent gives to you (:

Doesn't have to to anything with bad sportsmanship imo
Exactly. It wasn't necessary to say "give him the point anyway". At the end of the day, it's the umpires decision and like so many times, arguments fail against them.
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:19 PM   #51
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just such a terrible decision by mardy
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He wasn't wrong. If Fish didn't shout, will Ebden return better or run faster?? Of course he wouldn't..so, it's bad decision by the umpire
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I googled the incident where Mardy called Gasquet a faggot. It seems that Mardy and a group of his friends or family were watching Gasquet vs. some other American. It could be that someone in the group Mardy was with called Gasquet a faggot, not Mardy himself.

In any case, Mardy is classless and frat boyish. I don't care for him, or a lot of the American men. A lot of them are real tools. I wish we had a success gay American player. That would give me life.
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^^^^

I forgot to add that I can only find blog posts about this, not official media. It seemed to happen, allegedly, at the 2005 or 2005 US Open.
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He wasn't wrong. If Fish didn't shout, will Ebden return better or run faster?? Of course he wouldn't..so, it's bad decision by the umpire
Right. And if someone hits a forehand that's only a few inches wide, it's ok if the other guy is far away and wouldn't have a shot anyway.
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Mardy is right

Why you should agree to the rule if that's not right
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didn't know i could dislike fish more than i did before.
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Wait, no one watched the US Open women's final? Serena had a point that got the exact same point, she was furious and had another "outburst"...

Honestly, even though I strongly dislike Fish, in situations like this, the point should be replayed instead of giving it straight to the opponent. Fish and Serena both yelled "come on" because they saw that their opponents were completely out of position and thought they could celebrate already. It sure was a stupid thing to do but it wasn't like they did it "intentionally" so that their opponent could be affected.
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