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Old 02-29-2012, 12:29 AM   #151
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does anyone know exactly how many indoor events he is taking part in after the u.s. open?

i mean other than the obvious WTF in london.
Shanghai, Basel, Paris are on his official schedule.
Whether he'll indeed show up at all of those will remain to be seen.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:32 AM   #152
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he could snatch those 3.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:37 AM   #153
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It's pure conjecture of course, as there are so many factors and so many things could happen. We don't know who might be injured, or what the weather will be like (yes, the margins are so small among the top players, playing conditions affected by weather make a difference), and other factors. I think the best one can do is give best case, worst case scenarios.

+Legend:
Bold = excellent chance to win,
Bold Italic = could win under favorable circumstances
Italic = outside chance under best circumstances
Normal = little or no chance
+ if questionable as to which category a tournament falls, I have leaned toward the more generous

Federer's Scheduled Tournaments:

Outdoor Hard Winter/Spring:
Dubai - if it is not too cool and Mr. Djokovic is not at his best, or if Mr. Federer is at his best.
Indian Wells - little chance, conditions too slow/high bouncing, let Nadal/Djokovic duel in the sun
Miami - little chance, conditions too slow/high bouncing, let Nadal/Djokovic duel in the sun

Clay:
Madrid - Blue clay this year, one of the fastest clay courts and not too high bouncing.
Rome - An outside chance, but things would have to go his way.
Roland Garros - if someone upsets Rafael Nadal early, then Federer is the next best RG player.

Grass:
Halle - normal fast low bouncing grass, Nadal should lose by the semi-final. Federer should take this if in form.
Wimbledon - depends on the weather and a good draw. If it is dry all tournament, Mr. Federer is in trouble as the wear and tear on the court will make the second week too high bouncing for him. If he gets lucky and they have rain prior or during that soaks the base, the bounce will be lower and he will have an excellent chance.
? - he may ask for an invitation in another tournament during the 3 week interval.
Olympics - played at Wimbledon, but with new grass, 3 set matches (except the final), and only a week of play, it works in Federer's favor.
Gold=750 points, Silver=450, Bronze=340

Outdoor Hard Summer/Fall:
Toronto - outside chance at best
Cincinnati - fast hard court, could win but other fast court players will also have a good chance.
US Open - If conditions are relatively fast (per usual), this will be Federer's best chance to take a major. If the courts are soaked like last year, or have been slowed down by too gritty a coat of paint, probably not.
Shanghai - Conditions have slowed down a lot over recent years. If it were faster, his chances would improve.

Indoors:
Basel - defending, he should not lose his home tournament
Paris - defending, possible early *withdrawal as this tourney will finish a day before the WTF.
WTF - defending, likes the O2 surface, not fast, but relatively low bouncing. Always tough competition, depends on his end of season energy as opposed to the other players.

Total # of excellent and could win under favorable circumstances: 10
If we take 20% of those away because he will be tired due to playing too deep in tournaments close together, then it is: 8
If we only count the excellent chances then it is: 5
If he enters another unscheduled tournament that favors him, add 1.
If he doesn't take any of the could wins, and muffs the excellent chances, then obviously, he could end up with under 5.
More realistically, I think it will even out. So 4-6 titles would be no surprise. 10 or more would be amazing for him, 3 or less, disappointing.

*Could selectively withdraw from tournaments post US Open if tired/hurt.

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Old 02-29-2012, 12:14 PM   #154
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^WOW, great analysis!!
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It's pure conjecture of course, as there are so many factors and so many things could happen. We don't know who might be injured, or what the weather will be like (yes, the margins are so small among the top players, playing conditions affected by weather make a difference), and other factors. I think the best one can do is give best case, worst case scenarios.

+Legend:
Bold = excellent chance to win,
Bold Italic = could win under favorable circumstances
Italic = outside chance under best circumstances
Normal = little or no chance
+ if questionable as to which category a tournament falls, I have leaned toward the more generous

Federer's Scheduled Tournaments:

Outdoor Hard Winter/Spring:
Dubai - if it is not too cool and Mr. Djokovic is not at his best, or if Mr. Federer is at his best.
Indian Wells - little chance, conditions too slow/high bouncing, let Nadal/Djokovic duel in the sun
Miami - little chance, conditions too slow/high bouncing, let Nadal/Djokovic duel in the sun

Clay:
Madrid - Blue clay this year, one of the fastest clay courts and not too high bouncing.
Rome - An outside chance, but things would have to go his way.
Roland Garros - if someone upsets Rafael Nadal early, then Federer is the next best RG player.

Grass:
Halle - normal fast low bouncing grass, Nadal should lose by the semi-final. Federer should take this if in form.
Wimbledon - depends on the weather and a good draw. If it is dry all tournament, Mr. Federer is in trouble as the wear and tear on the court will make the second week too high bouncing for him. If he gets lucky and they have rain prior or during that soaks the base, the bounce will be lower and he will have an excellent chance.
? - he may ask for an invitation in another tournament during the 3 week interval.
Olympics - played at Wimbledon, but with new grass, 3 set matches (except the final), and only a week of play, it works in Federer's favor.
Gold=750 points, Silver=450, Bronze=340

Outdoor Hard Summer/Fall:
Toronto - outside chance at best
Cincinnati - fast hard court, could win but other fast court players will also have a good chance.
US Open - If conditions are relatively fast (per usual), this will be Federer's best chance to take a major. If the courts are soaked like last year, or have been slowed down by too gritty a coat of paint, probably not.
Shanghai - Conditions have slowed down a lot over recent years. If it were faster, his chances would improve.

Indoors:
Basel - defending, he should not lose his home tournament
Paris - defending, possible early *withdrawal as this tourney will finish a day before the WTF.
WTF - defending, likes the O2 surface, not fast, but relatively low bouncing. Always tough competition, depends on his end of season energy as opposed to the other players.

Total # of excellent and could win under favorable circumstances: 10
If we take 20% of those away because he will be tired due to playing too deep in tournaments close together, then it is: 8
If we only count the excellent chances then it is: 5
If he enters another unscheduled tournament that favors him, add 1.
If he doesn't take any of the could wins, and muffs the excellent chances, then obviously, he could end up with under 5.
More realistically, I think it will even out. So 4-6 titles would be no surprise. 10 or more would be amazing for him, 3 or less, disappointing.

*Could selectively withdraw from tournaments post US Open if tired/hurt.

Respectfully,
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superb analysis. by far the best post of this thread.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:21 PM   #156
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Thanks mcavoyfan and CD. Just thinking a bit further... IF Mr. Federer can take 1 major (let's say the US Open) and the Olympics, that's a net gain of almost 1500 points. Then if Nadal takes Roland Garros, and someone besides Djokovic takes Wimbledon, then Djokovic has lost a net of 1600 points, just in the majors. In this scenario, Federer or Nadal have a fair chance at #1. Mr. Djokovic still has more to defend. So, I think Djokovic must take 1 more major somewhere to be pretty assured of #1 at the end of the year. It's going to be very interesting May - Sept.

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defending wimbledon is not going to be easy this year masterclass. i have a feeling that fed, murray, and the clay warrior will eventually figure out NoDjok. they have to be tired of getting beat by him by now anyway.

i expect fed and murray to be more prepared this time around for wimbledon.

also nadal will roll into wimbledon after having caprtured his 7th french open so he will be riding a wave of confidence.
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Thanks mcavoyfan and CD. Just thinking a bit further... IF Mr. Federer can take 1 major (let's say the US Open) and the Olympics, that's a net gain of almost 1500 points. Then if Nadal takes Roland Garros, and someone besides Djokovic takes Wimbledon, then Djokovic has lost a net of 1600 points, just in the majors. In this scenario, Federer or Nadal have a fair chance at #1. Mr. Djokovic still has more to defend. So, I think Djokovic must take 1 more major somewhere to be pretty assured of #1 at the end of the year. It's going to be very interesting May - Sept.

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a point to be noted general masterclass.

i think there chance sometime between the french open and the u.s. open for something to happen. #1 rank will be could be decided for 2012 in that time span.
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anybody still doubting my pridiction that Fed is going to snatch the title in dubai?
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If he goes to the Asian swing, he'll probably get one there.


i think he is snatching a title tomorrow.
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i think he is snatching a title tomorrow.
I wouldn't be too sure of that.
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now back on topic:

fed will snatch his 72nd title tomorrow. i think 3-5 more for the remainder of the year is looking more possible now.

so that means he could be sitting on 77 titles by the end of 2012.

that leaves just 23 to make it a total of 100. i think a guy like fed--if he can keep his health and his drive--is certainly capable of 23 more titles in the next 5-6 years.

i believe he plays until he is 38 or 39 so he will have more than enough time to pull that off.
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i am almost always right. just bump this thread after Fed snatches title #72 today.
Fed looked like a man on a mission today out there... too bad the next tournaments are on slow courts...
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thanks Johnbert. maybe now they will start paying attention to us.

congrats to fed, his team, his family, and all his fans. title #72 is snatched and day`s work is done.

exactly like i called it 3 weeks ago.
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