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Old 02-22-2012, 09:30 PM   #91
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what is old is new again... and, it will be that way...

defensive and counterattacking baseline tennis today has been pushed to a high level, and unless new players are happy just to sit back and make a living in the top 50 or grow a third lung then that won't change...

to take a slice of the pie at the very top in today's game, you're either gonna have to fight fire with fire and grow that 3rd lung... or, make your game dynamic and full of anti-rhythm... this of course will include many forays to the net both behind the serve and during general play - and it should not be forgotten: sharp, sublime world class volleys...

the lost arts of attacking take longer to groom and are almost forgotten, and the path of least resistance to bankrolling your career is no doubt to stalk your opponent for hours from the baseline... so unless you wanna run a marathon every match, then high level attacking play must come back...
um dude... pently of players tried to do this. Taylor Dent, Roger Federer, Mika Llodra... and all failed. Racquets are too good now and courts are too slow - there isn't even a grass season anymore and S&V has almost 0% margin for error.

Llodra is probably the best volleyer on tour, having won 3 doubles grand slams but even he is rank 50-something. He is actually the only S&V in the top 200.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:31 PM   #92
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That said anyone who saw Llodra-Roger's best boyhood friend Chiudinelli had a real treat.

Pure serve & volley done right. Really enjoyed it.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:34 PM   #93
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um dude... pently of players tried to do this. Taylor Dent, Roger Federer, Mika Llodra... and all failed. Racquets are too good now and courts are too slow - there isn't even a grass season anymore and S&V has almost 0% margin for error.

Llodra is probably the best volleyer on tour, having won 3 doubles grand slams but even he is rank 50-something. He is actually the only S&V in the top 200.
Rogie's failure of a career is the final nail in the coffin for attacking tennis thats for sure.

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Rogie's failure of a career is the final nail in the coffin for attacking tennis thats for sure.

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um dude... pently of players tried to do this. Taylor Dent, Roger Federer, Mika Llodra... and all failed. Racquets are too good now and courts are too slow - there isn't even a grass season anymore and S&V has almost 0% margin for error.

Llodra is probably the best volleyer on tour, having won 3 doubles grand slams but even he is rank 50-something. He is actually the only S&V in the top 200.
your examples, excluding federer, are D-Grade attackers when compared with the likes of mcenroe, edberg, becker, rafter and sampras... federer only opted out of the full court press due to sound defence, and perhaps the greatest forehand of all time - so why wouldn't he abandon attacking when he can point end at the back, behind a superior service...

llodra, stepanek, dent... all D-Grade...

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/04/sp.../04llodra.html

Great NYTimes article on Llodra.
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I love it when people post highlights which means they have nothing to say . Most of those highlights don't show 90% of rest of the game that was utter garbage. It's also easy to be aggressive when you know that the other guy can't hurt you.
highlights of guga vs federer on clay and you think neither man could hurt someone from the baseline?

that game was not garbage, as you put it- it showcased all of federer's game and in the 2nd set all of guga's

the highlights were just a taste of how wonderfull that match was

actually i do have something more to say

its almost become mtf fact to say that 1998-2002 was considered some kind of transitional era- i personally consider 2002 to be the strongest year of the decade

agassi was at his peak
hewitt was amazing
nalbandian too
safin dominated the ao- only to get drunk before the final
federer showcased his true all court game
haas even more so- knocking federer out of the ao- haas's all court game was amazing

the surfaces stilll played different enough to allow sampras to win the us open with s&v

best match of the year? possibly the federer hewitt semi final at the tmc-

best display of all court federer i ever saw- sadly the loss probably put him off attacking the net ever again- and helped fashion him into the baseline attacking monster he became
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It is a shame this poll is not public.
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Rogie's failure of a career is the final nail in the coffin for attacking tennis thats for sure.

RIP.

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So Federer is an "attacking player" whatever that is despite a slice being his main shot by far?
Or are you trying to make yourself feel better since your comedy act is wearing thin.
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this whole Ajde thing is killing me, lol. you guys are crazy. anyway, S&V will not go away but it's simply too easy for a good baseliner to win a point if the other player tries to serve and voley all the time. I still don't understand this big deal about S&V really. nostalgia. I find tennis much more interesting nowadays than back then in "S&W' era.

AJDE, LOL
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this whole Ajde thing is killing me, lol. you guys are crazy. anyway, S&V will not go away but it's simply too easy for a good baseliner to win a point if the other player tries to serve and voley all the time. I still don't understand this big deal about S&V really. nostalgia. I find tennis much more interesting nowadays than back then in "S&W' era.

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So Federer is an "attacking player" whatever that is despite a slice being his main shot by far?
Or are you trying to make yourself feel better since your comedy act is wearing thin.
The average posting level of Noletards has undoubtedly peaked with this gem.

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I've never been more proud to count myself as a Noletard.

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