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Old 02-20-2012, 08:45 PM   #241
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The old weeper can only win the tournament if and only if there is no Nadal & Djokovic, it's that simple
Nadal and Djokovic better be thankful not any slams are Indoors which is the only surface left where real tennis gets played

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Old 02-20-2012, 10:10 PM   #242
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oh don't worry mate... fed can do this... has done this... and he will do again...

that is because federer is a playa... a hustler... he has been around the block... he has the know how...
The courts were actually slowed this year, so I'm not sure how much sense these rumours make.

That said, the conditions, although slower, were still almost ideal for Fed.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:23 PM   #243
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oh don't worry mate... fed can do this... has done this... and he will do again...

that is because federer is a playa... a hustler... he has been around the block... he has the know how...
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Default Re: Rotterdam Final: Federer beats Del Potro 6-1 6-4

it's a common MTF misconception to think that the court's speed is a very important factor for federer. it isn't. what matters the most to him is the bounce's hight.

federer can play at or near his best in a low bouncing and slow court. hence he has succeded in the WTF (slow and low bouncing hardcourt) and in hamburg (slow and low bouncing claycourt). even grass the changes can be seen. when the grass was lower, federer was better. his forehand worked better and his backhand worked a LOT better.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:52 PM   #245
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it's a common MTF misconception to think that the court's speed is a very important factor for federer. it isn't. what matters the most to him is the bounce's hight.

federer can play at or near his best in a low bouncing and slow court. hence he has succeded in the WTF (slow and low bouncing hardcourt) and in hamburg (slow and low bouncing claycourt). even grass the changes can be seen. when the grass was lower, federer was better. his forehand worked better and his backhand worked a LOT better.
yes the bounce is very important, but more than the court it's the balls as well I think (better not heavy balls for him).

Recently I've often read the players speaking about the balls rather than about the courts.

And the weather which can change much the conditions when it's played outside (when he played against Nadal in Melbourne it was a cold day, and humidity can change the conditions much as well ; in Wimbledon the bounce is lower in second week when it's a rainy fortnight like in 2001 or 2007 rather than after a dry weather like in 2009).

And of course it depends who the opponent is.
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Good way for Fed to bounce back after that lousy DC performance. Nice to see Davy show signs of him still being alive too.
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Default Re: Rotterdam Final: Federer beats Del Potro 6-1 6-4

Delpo , was pulling for him to win this one, he needs a win against one of the top 4 guys, this would have been a good confidence booster for him. Well, now he is back in the Top 10, should be #7 or #8 hopefully around IW/Miami.

Congrats Roger on title #71! He is just a horrible match-up for Delpo, H2H is now 9-2
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Default Re: Rotterdam Final: Federer beats Del Potro 6-1 6-4

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with that kind of play (massive grinding) he won't be able to play until the age of 30 or above. his game is much more physical than federer's. djokovic was totally burned-out at the end of last season, while roger won 3 tournaments in a row (he also did always well in his prime at the end of a season).
Yea, Agassi was 1) much more aggressive than Nole, which meant he didn't have to move as much, and
2) was able to continue playing well into his 30s, because he spent a chunk of his 20s chillin' in a meth lab, not burning out his body (just his mind, yo).
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