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Certinfy · 02-20-2012, 12:36 PM

Given in Grand Slams he'll have to win 3/4 (3/5 at the US Open) tiebreaks I still think it's a ask that's far too big. I mean the top 4 are mentally beasts compared to most of the rest and all 4 are no where near bad tie-break players. But then saying that it's not like Raonic isn't capable of swinging and getting a break every now and then but that would be his only hope, no way would he be able to win 3 tiebreaks in a Grand Slam. In 3 set matches though well then he definitely can for sure.

LawrenceOfTennis · 02-20-2012, 12:39 PM

Among the youngsters, Tomic is the only one capable of beating a top 4 player this year.

Certinfy · 02-20-2012, 12:42 PM

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Among the youngsters, Tomic is the only one capable of beating a top 4 player this year.

You serious? I think Raonic has the biggest chance and that it's not even close.

BroTree123 · 02-20-2012, 12:44 PM

Losing to Hewitt is part of the learning curve. No one is born perfect.

A_Skywalker · 02-20-2012, 01:11 PM

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Among the youngsters, Tomic is the only one capable of beating a top 4 player this year.

Yeah... right

Time Violation · 02-20-2012, 01:44 PM

Great to be positive.

However, it's a matter of whether he can back that up on court or no. Delpo similarly said he can play better than Nole, and then he didn't win a set off Federer in their last two matches.

Alex999 · 02-20-2012, 01:52 PM

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Among the youngsters, Tomic is the only one capable of beating a top 4 player this year.

lol, neither Tomic nor Raonic will beat Novak or Nadal any time soon. it simply ain't happening.

LawrenceOfTennis · 02-20-2012, 01:53 PM

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You serious? I think Raonic has the biggest chance and that it's not even close.

I am. Look, obviously Raonic has huge serve and he can control most of his matches with them but his groundstrokes are not good enough to match the best.
Tomic has top 10 groundstrokes in my opinion (although most of the people disagree with this statement) and he has a touch and tennis IQ what you cannot teach and what Raonic doesn't have. Tomic's serve is big enough, needs to be a bit more consistent though. Raonis is faster than him at this point but it is just matter of time when Tomic is going to be faster.
Tomic troubled top 4 except Murray, but I bet he would trouble Murray a lot in a best of 5 match. I'm not his fan, I just think he is better than Raonic.

Sophocles · 02-20-2012, 01:54 PM

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I am. Look, obviously Raonis has huge serve and he can control most of his matches with them but his groundstrokes are not good enough to match the best.
Tomic has top 10 groundstrokes in my opinion (although most of the people disagree with this statement) and he has a touch and tennis IQ what you cannot teach and what Raonis doesn't have. Tomic's serve is big enough, needs to be a bit more consistent though. Raonis is faster than him at this point but it is just matter of time when Tomic is going to be faster.
Tomis troubled top 4 except Murray, but I bet he would trouble Murray a lot in a best of 5 match. I'm not his fan, I just think he is better than Raonic.

I agree, actually. Tomic has already had competitive best-of-5 matches against Djoker & Fed & on grass especially I think he could take one of the big 4 down.

sexybeast · 02-20-2012, 02:20 PM

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lol, neither Tomic nor Raonic will beat Novak or Nadal any time soon. it simply ain't happening.

Tomic wasnt far from pushing Djokovic to that 5th set in Wimbledon. I can see Raonic or Tomic beat these players in some fast court, like the first week in Wimbledon/Queens.

Voo de Mar · 02-20-2012, 02:49 PM

In my opinion Raonic with his current efficient game-syle is going to lose on regular basis 4-6 4-6 or 6-7 3-6 etc. to Nadal, Djokovic and Murray everywhere; 6-7 6-7 or 6-7 7-6 3-6 etc. to Federer. The question appears: is he able to raise his tennis on return games when he needs it? If yes, he will be able to win against them for example 4-6 7-6 6-3 being a break down in the 2nd set. Raonic is a machine of winning service games but retrieving skills of his opponents are far inferior in comparison to the guys I mentioned above.

bassoon · 02-20-2012, 02:52 PM

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Will Raonic 2012 get a set off Nadal or Djokovic? I'd wager that he'll probably get breadsticked next time he comes up against Rafa.

I doubt he'll get breadsticked. They played in 2010, months before his Australian Open run, and Nadal won 6-4, 6-4. Same tournament last year - 6-3, 7-5. With the improvements Milos has made to his return game, why would the scoreline regress like that?

Alex999 · 02-20-2012, 02:53 PM

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Tomic wasnt far from pushing Djokovic to that 5th set in Wimbledon. I can see Raonic or Tomic beat these players in some fast court, like the first week in Wimbledon/Queens.

Novak has always had this tendency to lose his focus for a set etc. sure Tomic took a set from him at W but who really cares? I do believe that Tomic is the most talented of all youngsters but he has a long way to go.

MIMIC · 02-20-2012, 04:54 PM

The gap is gargantuan.

nole_no1 · 02-20-2012, 04:56 PM

I think he already thinks he's gonna be the next GOAT... poor guy