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Old 02-17-2012, 03:07 AM   #31
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I think all champions always think they are the best. Many years ago my school badminton told me I was the best, and you should have seen how crappy I was.

I think sports persons and politicians keep deluding themselves.

I do not listen to them usually especially when they start to sound nostalgic.
Why can't we laugh at such people and those who support them ?
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Old 02-17-2012, 03:16 AM   #32
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I do not listen to them usually especially when they start to sound nostalgic.
Why can't we laugh at such people and those who support them ?
Hmm.. i would wait until he drops out of the top 10 and stops making slam semis and finals .. after which you can laugh at him!
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overachiever fed is a marvel.
a few davis cup matches wearing down this ballerina would've reduced his masters cup & slam title count.
no amount of embarrassment overreactions to mediocre shots could change that fact.
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Old 02-17-2012, 03:20 AM   #34
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I still expect Rafa to beat Federer and I am sort of hoping for him to finally beat Djokovic I guess that means I didn't lower my expectations? Nadal fans were never as spoiled as Federer's fans and we take defeats easier. I am fine with Rafa lose to Murray for example or even Del Potro. It's upsetting but still OK when Nadal loses early in a tournament as long as it is not clay and not a GS.
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overachiever fed is a marvel.
a few davis cup matches wearing down this ballerina would've reduced his masters cup & slam title count.
no amount of embarrassment overreactions to mediocre shots could change that fact.
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:02 AM   #36
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My expectations for fed are greatly reduced. I see him winning only 4-6 more slams.
Same here.
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i have practically given up any expectation for Nadal to beat Djokovic. my expectations are high for Rafael still, but against Novak i have lost entire hope. part of this is forced obviously given the H2H recently and the other part is self willed as my plan is abandon any hope for Nadal against him and am surprised.

I definitely know Nadal will beat Djokovic sometime this year but still I certainly have no idea when to expect it. Nadal was close in Australia but one must feel like that is more because of Djokovic than Nadal.

I have lowered my expecttions for Nadal against Djokovic yes. Federer on the other hand is the opposite! i expect him to do well against Djokovic but in general i have lowered my expectations as it is unrealistic for him to preform at his best week in and week out when confronted with age and loss of focus
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Default Re: Fedal Fans - Have you lowered your expectations?

I've made peace with the fact that any additional trophy Fed gets is just a nice little bonus at the end of a brilliant career. I don't watch his matches with any expectation beyond the hope that I get to see a few cool shots now and then. Anything more and I'm pleasantly surprised. So, for me, 2011 has been not so terrible.

With Rafa, I expect him to make it to the final and lose to Djokovic. He set that bar himself last year and certainly lived up to my expectations so far. When (if) he exceeds them, I'll be just as pleasantly surprised.

Living with my renewed lower expectations on Roger is a helluva lot easier than on Rafa. After all, one's about to retire, the other is supposedly still in his prime. I do find myself watching the next gen's matches more and more this year hoping I see someone I like to root for in the future.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:52 AM   #39
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Not in this slow era. Fed may have a legitimate chance at the WTFs.
It is still his best chance. I certainly have low expectations at Wimbledon because he lost in the QF the past 2 years and it wasn't even to Nadal or Djokovic but to Berdych and Tsonga. Grass has become his worst surface in an ironic way. At RG he has better chances thanks to the babolat balls that suit him as well as the faster than in the past clay but Nadal has better chances of making the final there than at any other slam. So USO is where he has the best chances, he was so close to making the final the past 2 years.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:00 AM   #40
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Actually, I still have a lot of tension during Fed's matches ... but not the ones some would think : I have no tension at all in semifinals against Djokovics or Nadals, even against Djokovic in the US Open last year at match point I remember somebody told me "that's great he's winning" and I stopped him "it's not finished" quite calmly.

I have tension in other Fed's matches : the most tense round for me is round 16, when he has to meet a very good opponent but whom he still should beat, in QF I'm already less tense because I feel it's 50-50, and it's all gone if he reaches SF.

Why do I feel that tension ?

1. Because I feel it's his level, the level I can expect, between SF and QF.

2. Because it's still important for him to stay in top-4 to have better draws in slams then to still keep a correct opportunity to win a slam or reach the final, because yes he still has this ability when he's in a great form (remember against Djokovic in RG and US Open last year or against Nadal in WTF) or if the draw is good (Australian Open 2010).

I don't look at all at his ranking comparing to Djokovic, Nadal or even Murray (actually in my mind I consider that he's behind Murray, I'm still surprised he's ahead of him when I look at the rankings).

I only compare to Tsonga, Ferrer, Berdych, Del Potro, and last year also to Fish.

Fortunately I feel better since the Aus open since he has a better margin over them, but there's still something important which is keeping number 4 seed for Wimbledon comparing to Tsonga.

Currently he's 755 points ahead of Tsonga for that number 4 seed according to my calculations.

PS : this tension in R16 and QF is also explained by the fact that sometimes Fed let his opponents come back while he had the lead, some lost points which looked unimportant at the moment happened to be crucial in the end (for instance against Baghdatis in Indian Wells) : I remember last year when Federer missed a baseline smash to have to face a breakpoint against Tsonga in the beginning of third set of their QF, I took my head in my hands saying "Nooo" : I felt it might be a turning point ... and it was the turning point indeed in the end. Afterwards, I read an articles from a French journalist who said that at 2 sets-love it just looked too easy for Roger "another day at the office", that was clearly not my state of mind. In US Open semifinal I never thought Roger was comfortable when he led two sets to love against Djokovic either.
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I did lower my expectations. Him known to be a huge tennis beast, I expected a swift, convincing, aggressive and elegant retirement once the first break opportunity presented itself. Now procrastination and old age will lead to yet another long and boring tiebreak.
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