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Old 12-14-2011, 12:24 PM   #76
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Thanks!
Nadal must be double-counting.
With Borg, for some reason Auckland 1974 wasn't added. Maybe ATP has added this tournament in the archive in the last year or so?
I'll try to correct and update some time, maybe around new-year.
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UPDATED AFTER 2011

Titles by country each season

Open Era 1960's
Code:
1968	
AUS	9
USA	3
RSA	1
HUN	1
TCH	1
ESP	1
NED	1
ITA	1

1969	
AUS	14
USA	4
NED	3
ESP	3
YUG	2
BRA	1
ROU	1
FRA	1
1970's
Code:
1970	
AUS	14
USA	8
YUG	3
NED	2
ESP	1
GER	1
ROU	1
TCH	1

1971	
AUS	19
USA	16
ROU	7
YUG	4
GBR	3
TCH	2
ESP	2
RSA	2
NED	2
URS	1
CHI	1
BRA	1

1972	
USA	25
AUS	20
ROU	12
ESP	9
RSA	4
URS	3
GBR	2
YUG	1
GER	1
NED	1
TCH	1

1973	
USA	34
AUS	18
ROU	14
NED	7
ESP	4
GBR	4
TCH	3
MEX	2
GER	2
IND	2
ARG	1
CHI	1
NZL	1
ITA	1

1974	
USA	37
AUS	17
SWE	7
ARG	7
ROU	6
GER	3
NZL	2
RHO	2
RSA	2
IND	2
NED	2
GBR	1
URS	1
EGY	1
BEL	1
HUN	1
MEX	1
ITA	1

1975	
USA	37
AUS	13
ESP	9
GBR	6
ARG	5
SWE	5
ROU	5
MEX	4
ITA	3
TCH	2
NED	2
IND	2
YUG	1
CHI	1
RHO	1
NZL	1

1976	
USA	37
AUS	9
ESP	8
ROU	7
SWE	6
ARG	6
ITA	6
MEX	4
NZL	3
POL	3
IND	2
PAR	2
PAK	2
GBR	2
TCH	1
CHI	1
DEN	1
RSA	1
HUN	1

1977	
USA	42
ARG	16
SWE	12
ITA	7
ESP	4
ROU	2
POL	2
FRA	2
AUS	2
IND	2
MEX	2
TCH	1
YUG	1
GER	1
GBR	1
RHO	1
NED	1

1978	
USA	45
SWE	10
ARG	10
ESP	5
ROU	2
AUS	2
RSA	2
FRA	2
TCH	2
GER	2
HUN	2
MEX	2
POL	1
NZL	1
AUT	1
IND	1
PAR	1
ITA	1
SUI	1

1979	
USA	44
SWE	13
AUS	5
ARG	5
ESP	4
FRA	3
PAR	3
AUT	3
HUN	2
RSA	2
POL	2
CHI	2
TCH	1
ZIM	1
GER	1
MEX	1
NED	1
IND	1
1980's
Code:
1980	
USA	45
SWE	10
TCH	9
ARG	9
AUS	4
SUI	3
HUN	3
POL	3
ITA	2
ESP	2
IND	2
MEX	1
ISR	1
AUT	1
PAR	1
FRA	1
GER	1
BOL	1

1981	
USA	40
TCH	11
ARG	9
AUS	6
RSA	4
SWE	3
FRA	3
CHI	2
PAR	2
HUN	2
POL	1
BOL	1
ESP	1
NZL	1
ITA	1
ECU	1
YUG	1
IND	1
ISR	1

1982	
USA	36
TCH	17
ARG	12
AUS	7
SWE	6
FRA	5
CHI	3
ESP	3
POL	3
RSA	3
ECU	2
HUN	2
MEX	1
IND	1
BOL	1

1983	
USA	33
SWE	12
TCH	9
ARG	8
AUS	7
ESP	3
FRA	3
PER	1
SUI	1
CHI	1
ECU	1
NGR	1
PAR	1
MEX	1

1984	
USA	37
SWE	14
ECU	5
ESP	4
TCH	3
IND	2
ITA	2
AUS	2
BEL	1
FRA	1

1985	
USA	23
TCH	15
SWE	12
FRA	8
GER	5
RSA	2
ARG	2
URU	1
NZL	1
ESP	1
ECU	1
ITA	1

1986	
SWE	16
TCH	11
USA	11
FRA	6
GER	6
ECU	4
IND	3
ESP	3
ARG	2
ITA	2
YUG	1
AUS	1
AUT	1
ISR	1

1987	
SWE	18
TCH	15
USA	12
ARG	5
AUS	4
ESP	4
GER	3
PER	2
FRA	2
NZL	2
ECU	1
CHI	1
BRA	1
ITA	1
URS	1
RSA	1
SUI	1
ISR	1

1988	
USA	18
SWE	17
GER	8
TCH	6
AUT	6
AUS	4
FRA	3
SUI	2
ARG	2
ESP	2
ISR	2
SEN	1
URU	1
URS	1
IND	1
PER	1
YUG	1
BRA	1
ITA	1

1989	
USA	24
TCH	12
ARG	9
GER	7
ESP	4
SWE	3
SUI	2
BRA	2
URS	2
AUS	2
ECU	2
URU	1
RSA	1
NZL	1
HAI	1
FRA	1
ITA	1
IND	1
1990's
Code:
1990	
USA	18
SWE	11
ESP	7
TCH	6
GER	6
AUT	5
ARG	5
ECU	3
URS	3
AUS	3
FRA	2
YUG	2
SUI	2
HAI	2
BRA	1
RSA	1
ISR	1
NED	1
IND	1

1991	
USA	14
SWE	11
GER	10
TCH	9
ESP	8
FRA	7
ARG	4
URS	3
ITA	3
NED	2
AUT	2
AUS	2
PER	1
YUG	1
ECU	1
SUI	1
RUS	1
MEX	1

1992	
USA	24
GER	9
ESP	8
SWE	7
TCH	6
CRO	4
NED	3
BRA	3
UKR	3
AUT	3
PER	2
FRA	2
RSA	2
SUI	2
ARG	2
ITA	2
JPN	1
AUS	1

1993	
USA	27
ESP	10
GER	9
AUT	8
SWE	6
CRO	3
ARG	3
CZE	3
SUI	3
FRA	3
UKR	3
AUS	2
NED	2
PER	2
RUS	2
CAN	1
ISR	1
ITA	1

1994	
USA	26
ESP	14
GER	9
SWE	8
NED	5
RSA	5
RUS	4
AUT	3
CRO	2
UKR	2
AUS	2
SUI	2
ITA	2
URU	1
VEN	1
CZE	1
BRA	1
ARG	1
GBR	1

1995	
USA	22
AUT	13
GER	7
SWE	6
RSA	4
RUS	4
NED	4
ESP	4
CHI	3
CZE	3
SVK	2
SUI	2
AUS	1
GBR	1
COL	1
SEN	1
ARG	1
BEL	1
CRO	1
UKR	1
ECU	1
BRA	1
FRA	1

1996	
USA	20
ESP	12
GER	8
AUT	7
SWE	6
RUS	5
CRO	5
CZE	3
NED	3
AUS	2
RSA	2
MAR	2
FRA	2
ARG	1
VEN	1
CHI	1
GBR	1
ZIM	1
BRA	1
UKR	1

1997	
USA	17
ESP	15
SWE	9
AUS	7
NED	4
GBR	4
CRO	3
RUS	3
URU	2
CZE	2
AUT	2
SVK	2
FRA	2
GER	1
UKR	1
MAR	1
BEL	1
CHI	1
SUI	1
ARM	1
BRA	1

1998	
ESP	14
USA	14
AUS	10
CHI	7
SWE	6
NED	4
CZE	4
GBR	4
RUS	3
SVK	3
BRA	3
ARG	2
DEN	1
ITA	1
CRO	1
IND	1
ROU	1

1999	
USA	13
SWE	10
ESP	9
GER	5
FRA	5
RUS	4
AUS	4
CHI	3
NED	3
SVK	2
BRA	2
GBR	2
ECU	2
AUT	1
SUI	1
CRC	1
MAR	1
ZIM	1
ROU	1
ARG	1
2000's
Code:
2000	
SWE	11
ESP	9
RUS	9
AUS	7
FRA	6
BRA	5
USA	4
ARG	4
GER	3
SUI	2
CHI	2
NED	2
GBR	2
RSA	1
ROU	1
BEL	1
AUT	1

2001	
ESP	12
USA	8
AUS	8
BRA	6
GER	5
RUS	4
CZE	4
GBR	3
SWE	2
ARG	2
CHI	2
FRA	2
CRO	2
ITA	2
SUI	1
MAR	1
SVK	1
RSA	1
ECU	1
NED	1
ROU	1

2002	
USA	10
ESP	10
ARG	8
AUS	5
FRA	5
RUS	4
SUI	3
MAR	3
SWE	3
GBR	3
CHI	3
THA	2
ITA	2
DEN	1
ECU	1
NED	1
BRA	1
GER	1

2003	
USA	16
ESP	10
SUI	7
ARG	7
AUS	3
NED	3
GBR	3
RUS	2
THA	2
CHI	2
FRA	2
GER	2
BRA	2
SVK	1
CZE	1
AUT	1
BLR	1
RSA	1
KOR	1

2004	
SUI	11
ARG	9
ESP	8
RUS	6
USA	6
FRA	4
AUS	4
SVK	3
CHI	3
SWE	3
CZE	3
BRA	2
GER	2
ITA	1
THA	1
NED	1
GBR	1

2005	
ESP	12
SUI	11
USA	9
ARG	9
RUS	5
SWE	5
CRO	3
CHI	3
FRA	3
AUS	2
CZE	1
BEL	1
RSA	1
DEN	1
GBR	1

2006	
SUI	13
ESP	10
USA	7
FRA	6
RUS	6
CRO	5
GER	3
ARG	3
AUS	2
ITA	2
SRB	2
PER	1
BEL	1
CZE	1
AUT	1
GBR	1
CHI	1
CYP	1
FIN	1

2007	
ESP	13
SUI	8
ARG	7
FRA	7
SRB	5
CRO	5
RUS	4
USA	4
BEL	3
CZE	2
GER	2
GBR	2
PER	1
CHI	1
CYP	1
AUS	1

2008	
ESP	16
FRA	8
RUS	7
ARG	6
GBR	5
SRB	4
SUI	4
USA	4
CRO	2
CHI	2
GER	2
SWE	1
ROU	1
UKR	1
CZE	1
BEL	1
JPN	1

2009	
ESP	13
RUS	7
GBR	6
FRA	6
SRB	5
USA	5
SUI	4
ARG	4
CZE	3
CRO	3
GER	2
BRA	1
SWE	1
CYP	1
UKR	1
AUS	1
CHI	1
AUT	1
2010's
Code:
2010	
ESP	20
USA	9
SUI	6
FRA	5
CRO	3
SRB	3
RUS	3
ARG	3
SWE	2
UKR	2
KAZ	2
GBR	2
LAT	1
BRA	1
AUT	1
AUS	1
CYP	1

2011	
ESP	13
SRB	12
USA	5
SUI	5
FRA	5
GBR	5
SWE	4
GER	2
CZE	2
CRO	2
RUS	2
ARG	2
RSA	1
CAN	1
UKR	1
LAT	1
NED	1
ITA	1
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You have to correct some information the ATP upload recently some tournaments and quit somes

According to my data they change the next:

1968 Jan Leschly +1
1969 Rod Laver +1
1969 Manuel Santana -1
1969 Fred Stolle +1
1970 Rod Laver +1
1970 Ken Rosewall +1
1971 John Newcombe -1
1972 Jimmy Connors +1
1974 Bjorn Borg +1
1976 Jimmy Connors +1
1976 Ilie Nastase -1
1977 Ilie Nastase +1
1979 Trey Waltke -1
1983 Pat Cash +1
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Can you name that tournaments?
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Thank a lot bry17may!!

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You have to correct some information the ATP upload recently some tournaments and quit somes

According to my data they change the next:

1968 Jan Leschly +1 Added by ATP Macon 1968
1969 Rod Laver +1 Added by ATP Wembley 1969
1969 Manuel Santana -1Removed by ATP Kitzbuhel 1969
1969 Fred Stolle +1 Double-counting by ATP Hobart 1969 ( and 1968 by ATP)
1970 Rod Laver +1 Added by ATP Wembley 1970
1970 Ken Rosewall +1 Added by ATP Wembley 1970
1971 John Newcombe -1*
1972 Jimmy Connors +1 Added by ATP Roanoke 1972
1974 Bjorn Borg +1*
1976 Jimmy Connors +1 Final between Connors and Nastase were never played, ATP has incorrectly awarded Connors as champion
1976 Ilie Nastase -1 Removed by ATP WCT Challenge Cup, Honolulu
1977 Ilie Nastase +1 Added by ATP WCT Challenge Cup, Las Vegas
1979 Trey Waltke -1 Removed by ATP Montgomery 1979
1983 Pat Cash +1 Double-counting by ATP (this one is old)Melbourne 1982 ( and 1983 by ATP)
* Were already correct in database, so will hopefully be correct at next update..

Since ATP has decided to add/remove a few tournaments, then so have I. But as earlier, if ATP is clearly wrong I correct it.

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Only one thing more the title that was removed by ATP in 1976 for Ilie Nastase was not Nottingham, it was Hono-Lulu WCT Avis Challenge Cup.

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They remove WCT Challenge Cup for 1976, and add 1977 instead. Strange things...
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I found some mistakes in the number of finals and titles

Differences in titles:

Player...........Your Stats...Correct
Ken Rosewall.........29..........28


Differences in Finals:

Player...........Your Stats...Correct
Andres Gimeno.........8...........6
Manuel Orantes.......37..........35
Andreas Beck..........2...........1
Andrei Chesnokov......9...........8
Bob Carmichael........4...........3
Byron Black...........9...........8
Carlos Costa..........8...........7
Guy Forget............9...........8
Jimmy Connors........52..........51
Karl Meiler..........15..........14
Kent Carlsson.........9...........8
Marc Rosset...........9...........8
Patrick McEnroe.......4...........3
Sammy Giammalva.......6...........5
Tom Gullikson.........5...........4
Adriano Panatta......15..........16
Andrea Gaudenzi.......5...........6
Andrei Cherkasov......3...........4
Arthur Ashe..........33..........34
Boris Becker.........27..........28
Brian Gottfried......25..........26
Dominik Hrbaty........6...........7
Francisco Clavet......6...........7
Juan Gisbert..........4...........5
Sergi Bruguera.......20..........21
Stan Smith...........18..........19
Tim Gullikson.........5...........6
Johan Carlsson........0...........1
Tony Giammalva........0...........1
Karol Beck............0...........1
Michael Sangster......0...........1
Rod Laver............16..........18


And one more thing the ATP have other double counting in Paris Indoor 1970 y 1971 won by Arthur Ashe and the runner up is Marty Riessen, so Ashe have 32 titles y Riessen 13 finals.

And in the case of Nottingham 1976 is the same case than Kitzbuhel 1973 but in the second you give the title to Raul Ramirez and in the second you don't give the title for Connors, I don't know if you have other source for kitzbuhel 1973.
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I found some mistakes in the number of finals and titles

Differences in titles:

Player...........Your Stats...Correct
Ken Rosewall.........29..........28 Already fixed
Differences in Finals:

Player...........Your Stats...Correct
Andres Gimeno.........8...........6 Already fixed
Manuel Orantes.......37..........35 Barcelona 1973 (april). Correct RU is Panatta... Barcelona 1975. Correct RU is Gisbert.
Andreas Beck..........2...........1 Mistaken for Karol Beck. St. Petersburg 04.
Andrei Chesnokov......9...........8 Mistaken for Andrei Cherkasov (no wonder...). Brussels 1991.
Bob Carmichael........4...........3 Mistaken for Brian Gottfried. Johannesburg 1976 (nov.)
Byron Black...........9...........8 Mistaken for Dominik Hrbaty. Brighton 2000.
Carlos Costa..........8...........7 Mistaken for Andrea Gaudenzi. San Marino 1995
Guy Forget............9...........8 Mistaken for Boris Becker. Hamburg 1990
Jimmy Connors........52..........51 Double counted. Las Vegas 1976 removed, WCT Challenge Cup 1977 remains. Lost to Nastase, meaning Nastase lost one title, but gained one as explained below*.
Karl Meiler..........15..........14 Mistaken for Rod Laver. Brussels 1973.
Kent Carlsson.........9...........8 Mistaken for Johan Carlsson. Tokyo outd. 1986
Marc Rosset...........9...........8 Mistaken for Fransisco Clavet. Montevideo 1994.
Patrick McEnroe.......4...........3 Mistaken for Sergi Bruguera. Dubai 1994.
Sammy Giammalva.......6...........5 Mistaken for his brother, Tony. Bĺstad 1990. Who knew there were two Giammalva's...
Tom Gullikson.........5...........4 Mistaken for his brother, Tim. Stockholm 1978.
Adriano Panatta......15..........16 Explained.
Andrea Gaudenzi.......5...........6 Explained.
Andrei Cherkasov......3...........4 Explained.
Arthur Ashe..........33..........34 WCT Challenge Cup 1976 (Honolulu) added. (Lost to Nastase*)
Boris Becker.........27..........28 Explained.
Brian Gottfried......25..........26 Explained.
Dominik Hrbaty........6...........7 Explained.
Francisco Clavet......6...........7 Explained.
Juan Gisbert..........4...........5 Explained.
Sergi Bruguera.......20..........21 Explained.
Stan Smith...........18..........19 Didn't lose/play final, but came second in round robin. To be correct, he should however be credited as runner-up.
Tim Gullikson.........5...........6 Explained.
Johan Carlsson........0...........1 Explained.
Tony Giammalva........0...........1 Explained.
Karol Beck............0...........1 Explained.
Michael Sangster......0...........1 Already fixed
Rod Laver............16..........18 One explained above. Second was Masters 1970, Round Robin (same as S. Smith).


And one more thing the ATP have other double counting in Paris Indoor 1970 y 1971 won by Arthur Ashe and the runner up is Marty Riessen, so Ashe have 32 titles y Riessen 13 finals. Ashe did indeed win 1971 also (or Wikipedia says so), but since ATP only copied the 1970 version, and I have no results or runner-ups I remove this one.

And in the case of Nottingham 1976 is the same case than Kitzbuhel 1973 but in the second you give the title to Raul Ramirez and in the second you don't give the title for Connors, I don't know if you have other source for kitzbuhel 1973.I'm not sure about the term "ABN", is it short for abandoned? I think it should be counted as Walkover, but not sure.
First of all, thank you bry17may!!!

Runner-ups from the 90's I used partly Wikipedia as source, just to make the work more efficient to make. So that's my "excuse" for some of the most ridicolous ones. I discover now that some errors were made back then, obviously some of them were my own fault.

I'm also searching a more efficient way to update my stats, as there is no chance of updating like before. If someone got any ideas, just send a PM. Also for people wanting to help me or other interested: I can send excel files by e-mail if requested.

Stats aren't bug-fix-updated yet, only locally here.
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Vilas played in 102 finals not in 103 like in the first post
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Monte Carlo 1981 counts as unfinished final. I may have been a little inconsistent in this, but in that stat Vilas' final counts as final, but not runner-up (because he didn't lose it). I've made it like this because of the winning % stat, which makes it unfair to get a lower score just because the organisers couldn't finish the tournament completly.
Then I get
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Runner-Ups: 40
Finals: 103, even though 62+40=102.
It's the same with Connors, McEnroe, Lendl...
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Hi, stats people! Long time no see...
I am thinking of making a new thread like this one soon (instead of editing the old one). I have had time to work with my data and made things a little different so I can generate and update stats quite much easier. If everything goes according to plan this means I can have a thread like this one, a little smaller probably, but with more frequent updates. Much of the same stats I guess.

I want to hear from you guys what I should include in the new thread! I really appreciate suggestions and feedback, i.e. which stats you like or doesn't like, stats I should make or change... Because I don't want to use lots of time on stats with no interrest to you all! Reply here, please
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I am thinking of making a new thread like this one soon (instead of editing the old one). I have had time to work with my data and made things a little different so I can generate and update stats quite much easier. If everything goes according to plan this means I can have a thread like this one, a little smaller probably, but with more frequent updates. Much of the same stats I guess.

I want to hear from you guys what I should include in the new thread! I really appreciate suggestions and feedback, i.e. which stats you like or doesn't like, stats I should make or change... Because I don't want to use lots of time on stats with no interrest to you all! Reply here, please
Hi V.H., is great that you will make a new post, the only stat that unlike me is the stats about country, for me is a total individual sport except for Davis Cup
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Thanks for responding!
Reason to why I've made those is because I haven't seen such stats elsewhere. I want to share stats that you will not find on other sites or anything. But I see your point.
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I love reading your threads here .Thanks for doing it .This stat really interests me
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