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Old 03-22-2010, 07:29 PM   #46
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I will post the top 100 twice a year to better keep track of the rise of players.
Here's the top 100 after Roland Garros 2010 (in brackets the score and rank at year end 2009)

1 (1) Federer, Roger..................4126 (4071)
2 (2) Sampras, Pete.................. 3710
3 (3) Agassi, Andre....................3392
4 (4) Nadal, Rafael.....................2719 (2407)
5 (7) Roddick, Andy...................1950 (1857)
6 (5) Courier, Jim...................... 1898
7 (6) Becker, Boris.................... 1868
8 (8) Hewitt, Lleyton.................1837 (1829)
9 (9) Edberg, Stefan.................1777
10 (10) Chang, Michael.............1685

11 (11) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny......1677
12 (12) Ivanisevic, Goran..........1564
13 (13) Muster, Tomas..............1476
14 (14) Djokovic, Novak............1464 (1363)
15 (15) Kuerten, Gustavo.........1333
16 (16) Safin, Marat..................1323
17 (17) Moya, Carlos................1313
18 (18) Ferrero, Juan Carlos.....1299 (1267)
19 (19) Krajicek, Richard...........1210
20 (20) Stich, Michael................1185

21 (21) Davydenko, Nikolay.......1175 (1140)
22 (22) Nalbandian, David.........1131 (1119)
23 (23) Rafter, Patrick...............1114
24 (24) Henman, Tim.................1103
25 (25) Ferreira, Wayne............1049
26 (26) Rios, Marcelo.................1021
27 (27) Bruguera, Sergi.............1001
28 (32) Murray, Andy.................991 (875)
29 (28) Corretja, Alex................976
30 (29) Martin, Todd..................967

31 (30) Enqvist, Thomas...........965
32 (31) Haas, Tommy................954 (947)
33 (34) Gonzalez, Fernando.....874 (852)
34 (33) Korda, Petr...................870
35 (35) Grosjean, Sebastian.....791
36 (36) Costa, Albert................789
37 (37) Medvedev, Andrei.........785
38 (38) Robredo, Tommy...........779 (760)
39 (39) Philippoussis, Mark.......732
40 (46) Ferrer, David.................729 (626)

41 (40) Pioline, Cedric...............728
42 (41) Coria, Guillermo.............713
43 (45) Ljubicic, Ivan.................702 (631)
44 (42) Lendl, Ivan....................680
45 (43) Björkman, Jonas............656
46 (44) Rusedski, Greg..............642
47 (47) Forget, Guy...................605
48 (48) Kiefer, Nicolas...............593
49 (49) Blake, James.................590
50 (50) Rosset, Marc.................579

51 (51) Johansson, Thomas......563
52 (52) Santoro, Fabrice...........543
53 (63) Berdych, Thomas..........530 (431)
54 (68) Verdasco, Fernando.....525 (399)
55 (53) Novak, Jiri.....................500
56 (56) Del Potro, Juan Martin..482 (467)
57 (54) Hrbaty, Dominik............476
58 (55) Larsson, Magnus..........468
59 (57) Stepanek, Radek..........465
60 (58) Gaudio, Gaston............459

61 (59) Mantilla, Felix...............451
62 (61) Schüttler, Rainer..........447
62 (85) Soderling, Robin...........447 (316)
64 (70) Youzhny, Mikhail...........446 (392)
65 (61) Gustafsson, Magnus.....441
66 (62) Washington, MaliVai.....432
67 (83) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried.......426 (328)
68 (64) Berasategui, Alberto.....425
69 (65) Schalken, Sjeng............422
70 (69) Gasquet, Richard..........406 (396)

71 (66) Norman, Magnus..........404
72 (67) Canas, Guillermo..........400
73 (71) Lapentti, Nicolas...........389
74 (72) Novacek, Karel.............383
75 (73) Krickstein, Aaron..........367
76 (74) Wheaton, David...........360
77 (75) Ancic, Mario..................356
78 (76) Pavel, Andrei................349
79 (77) Chesnokov, Andrei.......348
79 (77) Clement, Arnaud..........348

81 (79) Sanchez, Emilio............344
82 (80) Volkov, Alexander.........338
83 (81) Arazi, Hicham................334
84 (82) Boetsch, Arnaud...........333
85 (90) Baghdatis, Marcos........330 (299)
86 (84) Chela, Juan Ignacio......326 (316)
87 (99) Wawrinka, Stanislas.....316 (258)
88 (86) Clavet, Francisco..........315
89 (87) Spadea, Vince..............313
90 (88) Kucera, Karol...............310

91 (90) Monfils, Gael.................308 (289)
92 (89) Simon, Gilles.................306
93 (99) Lopez, Feliciano............294 (258)
94 (95) Ginepri, Robbie.............290 (275)
95 (92) Costa, Carlos...............283
96 (93) Mirnyi, Max...................282
97 (94) El Aynaoui, Younes.......277
98 (--) Cilic, Marin.....................275
99 (96) Escude, Nicolas............273
100 (97) Hlasek, Jakob............269

101 (98) Woodforde, Mark.......265
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I will post the top 100 twice a year to better keep track of the rise of players.
Here's the top 100 at year end 2010 (in brackets the score and rank after Roland Garros 2010)

1 (1) Federer, Roger..................4333 (4126)
2 (2) Sampras, Pete.................. 3710
3 (3) Agassi, Andre....................3392
4 (4) Nadal, Rafael.....................3020 (2719)
5 (5) Roddick, Andy...................1985 (1950)
6 (6) Courier, Jim...................... 1898
7 (7) Becker, Boris.................... 1868
8 (8) Hewitt, Lleyton.................1847 (1837)
9 (9) Edberg, Stefan.................1777
10 (10) Chang, Michael.............1685

11 (11) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny......1677
12 (14) Djokovic, Novak............1672 (1464)
13 (12) Ivanisevic, Goran..........1564
14 (13) Muster, Tomas..............1476
15 (15) Kuerten, Gustavo.........1333
16 (16) Safin, Marat..................1323
17 (17) Moya, Carlos................1313
18 (18) Ferrero, Juan Carlos.....1306 (1299)
19 (19) Krajicek, Richard...........1210
20 (21) Davydenko, Nikolay.......1206 (1175)

21 (28) Murray, Andy.................1187 (991)
22 (20) Stich, Michael................1185
23 (22) Nalbandian, David.........1167 (1131)
24 (23) Rafter, Patrick...............1114
25 (24) Henman, Tim.................1103
26 (25) Ferreira, Wayne............1049
27 (26) Rios, Marcelo.................1021
28 (27) Bruguera, Sergi.............1001
29 (29) Corretja, Alex................976
30 (30) Martin, Todd..................967

31 (31) Enqvist, Thomas...........965
32 (32) Haas, Tommy................954
33 (33) Gonzalez, Fernando.....874
34 (34) Korda, Petr...................870
35 (35) Grosjean, Sebastian.....791
36 (40) Ferrer, David.................790 (729)
37 (36) Costa, Albert................789
38 (37) Medvedev, Andrei.........785
39 (38) Robredo, Tommy...........779
40 (39) Philippoussis, Mark.......732

41 (41) Pioline, Cedric...............728
42 (42) Coria, Guillermo.............713
43 (43) Ljubicic, Ivan.................702
44 (44) Lendl, Ivan....................680
45 (45) Björkman, Jonas............656
46 (53) Berdych, Thomas..........653 (530)
47 (46) Rusedski, Greg..............642
48 (47) Forget, Guy...................605
49 (48) Kiefer, Nicolas...............593
50 (49) Blake, James.................590

51 (62) Soderling, Robin...........583 (447)
52 (50) Rosset, Marc.................579
53 (51) Johansson, Thomas......563
54 (54) Verdasco, Fernando.....550 (525)
55 (52) Santoro, Fabrice...........543
56 (64) Youzhny, Mikhail...........501 (446)
57 (55) Novak, Jiri.....................500
58 (56) Del Potro, Juan Martin..482
59 (57) Hrbaty, Dominik............476
60 (59) Stepanek, Radek..........472 (465)

61 (58) Larsson, Magnus..........468
62 (67) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried.......463 (426)
63 (60) Gaudio, Gaston............459
64 (61) Mantilla, Felix...............451
65 (62) Schüttler, Rainer..........447
66 (65) Gustafsson, Magnus.....441
67 (70) Gasquet, Richard..........435 (406)
68 (66) Washington, MaliVai.....432
69 (68) Berasategui, Alberto.....425
70 (69) Schalken, Sjeng............422

71 (71) Norman, Magnus..........404
72 (72) Canas, Guillermo..........400
73 (91) Monfils, Gael.................392 (308)
74 (73) Lapentti, Nicolas...........389
75 (74) Novacek, Karel.............383
76 (75) Krickstein, Aaron..........367
77 (77) Clement, Arnaud..........362 (348)
78 (76) Wheaton, David...........360
79 (77) Ancic, Mario..................356
80 (85) Baghdatis, Marcos........352 (330)

81 (78) Pavel, Andrei................349
82 (79) Chesnokov, Andrei.......348
82 (87) Wawrinka, Stanislas.....348 (316)
84 (81) Sanchez, Emilio............344
85 (82) Volkov, Alexander.........338
86 (86) Chela, Juan Ignacio......336 (326)
87 (83) Arazi, Hicham................334
88 (84) Boetsch, Arnaud...........333
89 (92) Simon, Gilles.................330 (306)
90 (88) Clavet, Francisco..........315

91 (89) Spadea, Vince..............313
92 (90) Kucera, Karol...............310
93 (93) Lopez, Feliciano...........309 (294)
94 (94) Ginepri, Robbie............290
95 (--) Almagro, Nicolas...........287
96 (--) Melzer, Jurgen..............284
97 (95) Costa, Carlos..............283
97 (--) Fish, Mardy...................283
99 (96) Mirnyi, Max..................282
99 (98) Cilic, Marin...................282 (275)

101 (97) El Aynaoui, Younes......277
102 (99) Escude, Nicolas...........273
103 (100) Hlasek, Jakob............269
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I've split my ranking to compare (second figures are the overall scores for players who started their career before 1990)

About the same for the top players. Good sign.

1 Roger Federer 463
2 Pete Sampras 426,5 427
3 Andre Agassi 378,5 418,5
4 Rafael Nadal 287
5 Andy Roddick 188
6 Lleyton Hewitt 183,5
7 Yevgeni Kafelnikov 178,5
8 Jim Courier 175,5 180
9 Boris Becker 175 342,5
10 Stefan Edberg 171,5 326,5
11 Michael Chang 170 188
12 Goran Ivanisevic 155 159,5
13 Novak Djokovic 144,5
14 Thomas Muster 143 162,5
15 Gustavo Kuerten 125
16 Michael Stich 119 119,5
17 Carlos Moya 119
18 Juan Carlos Ferrero 111
19 Marat Safin 106
20 Nicolay Davydenko 101,5
21 Pat Rafter 99,5
22 Richard Krajicek 94,5
23 Marcelo Rios 94,5
24 Sergi Bruguera 93,5 95,5
25 David Nalbandian 91
26 Tim Henman 90
27 Andy Murray 89,5
28 Alex Corretja 88,5
29 Ivan Lendl 86 586
30 Jonas Björkman 81,5
31 Petr Korda 78 80,5
32 Todd Martin 76,5
33 Wayne Ferreira 76,5
34 Thomas Enqvist 73,5
35 Fernando Gonzalez 72,5
36 Tommy Haas 71,5
37 Albert Costa 70,5
38 Todd Woodbridge 65,5
39 Sébastien Grosjean 63,5
40 Mark Philippoussis 60,5
41 Cédric Pioline 58,5
42 Greg Rusedski 58,5
43 Guy Forget 58 73
44 Andrei Medvedev 56
45 David Ferrer 55
46 Guillermo Coria 55
47 Tommy Robredo 51,5
48 James Blake 51,5
49 Alberto Berasategui 51,5
50 Ivan Ljubicic 51
51 Marc Rosset 50,5
52 Nicolas Kiefer 49,5
53 Robin Söderling 48,5
54 Thomas Johansson 47,5
55 Felix Mantilla 47
56 Mark Woodforde 47 58,5
57 Magnus Gustafsson 44,5
58 Juan Martin Del Potro 44,5
59 Magnus Norman 44
60 Magnus Larsson 42
61 Jiri Novak 42
62 Gaston Gaudio 41,5
63 Sjeng Schalken 40
64 Fabrice Santoro 40
65 Guillermo Canas 40
66 Karel Novacek 39 48
67 Mike Bryan 39
68 Jacco Eltingh 39
69 Daniel Nestor 38,5
69 Mikhail Youzhny 38,5
69 Emilio Sanchez 38,5 88,5
72 Bob Bryan 38
73 Tomas Berdych 37,5
74 Dominik Hrbaty 35
75 Younes El Aynaoui 35
76 Arnaud Clément 34,5
77 Radek Stepanek 34,5
78 Max Mirnyi 34,5
79 Nicolas Lapentti 34,5
80 Mardy Fish 34
81 Rainer Schuettler 34
82 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 32
83 MaliVai Washington 32
84 Byron Black 31,5
85 Mario Ancic 31,5
86 Gael Monfils 30
87 Marcos Baghdatis 30
88 Karol Kucera 30
89 David Wheaton 29,5
90 Mark Knowles 29
91 Fernando Verdasco 28,5
92 Javier Sanchez 27 38
93 Francisco Clavet 27
94 Leander Paes 27
95 Andres Gomez 26,5
96 Michael Llodra 26,5
97 Jan Siemerink 26,5
98 Martin Damm 25,5
99 Mahesh Bhupathi 25
100 Richey Reneberg 25
101 Juan Ignacio Chela 24,5
102 Alexander Volkov 24
103 Nicolas Almagro 24

Carlos Costa 23,5 24,5
Aaron Krickstein 23 54
Andrei Pavel 23
Jakob Hlasek 22,5 39,5
Gilles Simon 22
Jurgen Melzer 22
Arnaud Boetsch 22
Nicolas Escudé 21
Marin Cilic 20
Vince Spadea 17,5
Stanislas Wawrinka 16,5
Feliciano Lopez 16,5
Robbie Ginepri 14


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I will post the top 100 twice a year to better keep track of the rise of players.
Here's the top 100 after Roland Garros 2011 (in brackets the score at year end 2010)

1 (1) Federer, Roger..................4418 (4333)
2 (2) Sampras, Pete................. 3710
3 (3) Agassi, Andre...................3392
4 (4) Nadal, Rafael....................3316 (3020)
5 (12) Djokovic, Novak..............2027 (1672)
6 (5) Roddick, Andy...................1995 (1985)
7 (6) Courier, Jim...................... 1898
8 (7) Becker, Boris.................... 1868
9 (8) Hewitt, Lleyton.................1847
10 (9) Edberg, Stefan................1777

11 (10) Chang, Michael.............1685
12 (11) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny......1677
13 (13) Ivanisevic, Goran..........1564
14 (14) Muster, Tomas..............1476
15 (21) Murray, Andy.................1353 (1187)
16 (15) Kuerten, Gustavo.........1333
17 (16) Safin, Marat..................1323
18 (17) Moya, Carlos................1313
19 (18) Ferrero, Juan Carlos.....1306
20 (20) Davydenko, Nikolay......1216 (1206)

21 (19) Krajicek, Richard...........1210
22 (22) Stich, Michael................1185
23 (23) Nalbandian, David.........1167
24 (24) Rafter, Patrick...............1114
25 (25) Henman, Tim.................1103
26 (26) Ferreira, Wayne............1049
27 (27) Rios, Marcelo.................1021
28 (28) Bruguera, Sergi.............1001
29 (29) Corretja, Alex................976
30 (30) Martin, Todd..................967

31 (31) Enqvist, Thomas...........965
32 (32) Haas, Tommy................954
33 (36) Ferrer, David.................915 (790)
34 (33) Gonzalez, Fernando.....874
35 (34) Korda, Petr...................870
36 (39) Robredo, Tommy...........853 (779)
37 (35) Grosjean, Sebastian.....791
38 (37) Costa, Albert................789
39 (38) Medvedev, Andrei.........785
40 (40) Philippoussis, Mark.......732

41 (43) Ljubicic, Ivan.................729 (702)
42 (41) Pioline, Cedric...............728
42 (46) Berdych, Thomas..........728 (653)
44 (42) Coria, Guillermo............713
45 (44) Lendl, Ivan...................680
46 (51) Soderling, Robin...........677 (583)
47 (45) Björkman, Jonas...........656
48 (47) Rusedski, Greg.............642
49 (48) Forget, Guy...................605
50 (49) Kiefer, Nicolas...............593

51 (50) Blake, James.................590
52 (52) Rosset, Marc.................579
53 (54) Verdasco, Fernando.....575 (550)
54 (53) Johansson, Thomas......563
55 (58) Del Potro, Juan Martin..545 (482)
56 (55) Santoro, Fabrice...........543
57 (56) Youzhny, Mikhail...........508 (501)
58 (57) Novak, Jiri.....................500
59 (67) Gasquet, Richard..........498 (435)
60 (62) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried.......484 (463)

61 (59) Hrbaty, Dominik............476
62 (60) Stepanek, Radek..........472
63 (61) Larsson, Magnus..........468
64 (63) Gaudio, Gaston............459
65 (64) Mantilla, Felix...............451
66 (65) Schüttler, Rainer..........447
67 (66) Gustafsson, Magnus.....441
68 (68) Washington, MaliVai.....432
69 (73) Monfils, Gael.................431 (392)
70 (69) Berasategui, Alberto.....425

71 (70) Schalken, Sjeng............422
72 (82) Wawrinka, Stanislas.....417 (348)
73 (71) Norman, Magnus..........404
74 (72) Canas, Guillermo..........400
75 (74) Lapentti, Nicolas...........389
76 (75) Novacek, Karel.............383
77 (89) Simon, Gilles.................374 (330)
78 (86) Chela, Juan Ignacio......368 (336)
79 (76) Krickstein, Aaron..........367
80 (77) Clement, Arnaud..........362

81 (78) Wheaton, David...........360
82 (80) Baghdatis, Marcos........359 (352)
83 (79) Ancic, Mario..................356
84 (81) Pavel, Andrei................349
85 (82) Chesnokov, Andrei.......348
86 (95) Almagro, Nicolas...........346 (287)
87 (84) Sanchez, Emilio............344
88 (85) Volkov, Alexander.........338
89 (87) Arazi, Hicham................334
90 (88) Boetsch, Arnaud...........333

91 (96) Melzer, Jurgen..............321 (284)
92 (97) Fish, Mardy...................319 (283)
93 (93) Lopez, Feliciano...........316 (309)
93 (99) Cilic, Marin....................316 (282)
95 (90) Clavet, Francisco..........315
96 (91) Spadea, Vince..............313
97 (92) Kucera, Karol...............310
98 (94) Ginepri, Robbie............290
99 (97) Costa, Carlos..............283
100 (99) Mirnyi, Max................282
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I will post the top 100 twice a year to better keep track of the rise of players.
Here's the top 100 at year end 2011 (in brackets the score after Roland Garros 2011)

1 (1) Federer, Roger..................4515 (4418)
2 (2) Sampras, Pete................. 3710
3 (4) Nadal, Rafael....................3471 (3316)
4 (3) Agassi, Andre...................3392
5 (5) Djokovic, Novak................2327 (2027)
6 (6) Roddick, Andy...................2007 (1995)
7 (7) Courier, Jim...................... 1898
8 (8) Becker, Boris.................... 1868
9 (9) Hewitt, Lleyton.................1847
10 (10) Edberg, Stefan..............1777

11 (11) Chang, Michael.............1685
12 (12) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny......1677
13 (15) Murray, Andy.................1585 (1353)
14 (13) Ivanisevic, Goran..........1564
15 (14) Muster, Tomas..............1476
16 (16) Kuerten, Gustavo.........1333
17 (19) Ferrero, Juan Carlos.....1328 (1306)
18 (17) Safin, Marat..................1323
19 (18) Moya, Carlos................1313
20 (20) Davydenko, Nikolay......1223 (1216)

21 (21) Krajicek, Richard...........1210
22 (22) Stich, Michael................1185
23 (23) Nalbandian, David.........1174 (1167)
24 (24) Rafter, Patrick...............1114
25 (25) Henman, Tim.................1103
26 (26) Ferreira, Wayne............1049
27 (27) Rios, Marcelo.................1021
28 (33) Ferrer, David.................1019 (915)
29 (28) Bruguera, Sergi.............1001
30 (29) Corretja, Alex................976

31 (30) Martin, Todd..................967
32 (31) Enqvist, Thomas...........965
33 (32) Haas, Tommy................954
34 (34) Gonzalez, Fernando.....881 (874)
35 (34) Korda, Petr...................870
36 (42) Berdych, Thomas..........836 (728)
37 (36) Robredo, Tommy...........823
38 (37) Grosjean, Sebastian.....791
39 (38) Costa, Albert................789
40 (39) Medvedev, Andrei.........785

41 (41) Ljubicic, Ivan.................736 (729)
42 (40) Philippoussis, Mark.......732
43 (42) Pioline, Cedric...............728
44 (44) Coria, Guillermo............713
45 (46) Soderling, Robin...........694 (677)
46 (45) Lendl, Ivan...................680
47 (60) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried.......671 (484)
48 (47) Björkman, Jonas...........656
49 (48) Rusedski, Greg.............642
50 (49) Forget, Guy...................605

51 (51) Blake, James.................597 (590)
52 (50) Kiefer, Nicolas...............593
53 (52) Rosset, Marc.................579
53 (53) Verdasco, Fernando.....579 (575)
55 (55) Del Potro, Juan Martin..567 (545)
56 (54) Johansson, Thomas......563
57 (56) Santoro, Fabrice...........543
58 (59) Gasquet, Richard..........534 (498)
59 (57) Youzhny, Mikhail...........516 (508)
60 (58) Novak, Jiri.....................500

61 (62) Stepanek, Radek..........489 (472)
62 (61) Hrbaty, Dominik............476
63 (69) Monfils, Gael.................472 (431)
64 (63) Larsson, Magnus..........468
65 (64) Gaudio, Gaston............459
66 (65) Mantilla, Felix...............451
67 (66) Schüttler, Rainer..........447
68 (67) Gustafsson, Magnus.....441
69 (72) Wawrinka, Stanislas.....436 (417)
70 (92) Fish, Mardy...................433 (319)

71 (68) Washington, MaliVai.....432
72 (70) Berasategui, Alberto.....425
72 (77) Simon, Gilles.................425 (374)
74 (71) Schalken, Sjeng............422
75 (73) Norman, Magnus..........404
76 (74) Canas, Guillermo..........400
77 (75) Lapentti, Nicolas...........389
78 (76) Novacek, Karel.............383
79 (86) Almagro, Nicolas...........379 (346)
80 (78) Chela, Juan Ignacio......375 (368)

81 (93) Lopez, Feliciano...........370 (316)
82 (79) Krickstein, Aaron..........367
83 (82) Baghdatis, Marcos........366 (359)
84 (80) Clement, Arnaud..........362
85 (81) Wheaton, David...........360
86 (83) Ancic, Mario..................356
87 (84) Pavel, Andrei................349
88 (85) Chesnokov, Andrei.......348
89 (87) Sanchez, Emilio............344
90 (93) Cilic, Marin....................340 (316)

91 (88) Volkov, Alexander.........338
92 (89) Arazi, Hicham................334
93 (90) Boetsch, Arnaud...........333
94 (91) Melzer, Jurgen..............328 (321)
95 (95) Clavet, Francisco..........315
96 (96) Spadea, Vince..............313
97 (97) Kucera, Karol...............310
98 (98) Ginepri, Robbie............290
99 (99) Costa, Carlos..............283
100 (100) Mirnyi, Max..............282
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Only ranking the 6 best results actually hurts dominance as much as it hurts longevity. It would be fairer to continue to include results past the 6 mark but only if it continues to show a level of dominance and success that should indeed be rewarded and shouldn't go unnoticed, such as reaching the finals of a Slam Event or winning it only, and perhaps half points for any semi-finals but nothing more. This way you penalize longevity without sacrificing too many of the hard earned and excellent quality results that do occur.

At the moment you are even dismissing finals results that go past the 6 best results in the same manner you are dismissing a 3rd round result, which is surely unfair. There would not be many instances in which results would change if you were to make a change like this but I'm guessing their would be some, and in such a case you would be further highlighting their dominance and incredible high level play by only including semis, finals and wins past 6 rather than wins, while still not rewarding longevity so much.

Also, have you thought about extending this list to include the entirety of the Open Era, as before 1990 there was the Grand Prix Championship Series which basically is the Masters Series but with different branding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_...and_statistics

Please do consider these things, they could form a new thread that works along similar lines and yield more comprehensive results, and you'd certainly be the person to put it together.


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Actually, I think Grand Prix Championship Series never existed in such a poor organized Tour and this list can't be true
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They must be worth something, it was the second tier tournament series behind the Majors so it's the nearest equivalent there is.
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They must be worth something, it was the second tier tournament series behind the Majors so it's the nearest equivalent there is.
No doubt.. it wasn't serie like Masters 1000 from 1990. but they are worth of mentioning
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Well what were the draws generally like? The winning tendency seems to be roughly the same, with greats having results generally in the teens or higher with others less great notching a few victories and many of the finals were between two very high quality players. Also, there were always roughly the same amount of events in the series which makes it very convenient for comparison.
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Only ranking the 6 best results actually hurts dominance as much as it hurts longevity. It would be fairer to continue to include results past the 6 mark but only if it continues to show a level of dominance and success that should indeed be rewarded and shouldn't go unnoticed, such as reaching the finals of a Slam Event or winning it only, and perhaps half points for any semi-finals but nothing more. This way you penalize longevity without sacrificing too many of the hard earned and excellent quality results that do occur.


At the moment you are even dismissing finals results that go past the 6 best results in the same manner you are dismissing a 3rd round result, which is surely unfair. There would not be many instances in which results would change if you were to make a change like this but I'm guessing their would be some, and in such a case you would be further highlighting their dominance and incredible high level play by only including semis, finals and wins past 6 rather than wins, while still not rewarding longevity so much.
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad your discussing methodology and not the end result.
Obviously, I have given this matter some thought when I started this thread years ago. Players who have finals or semifinals as a best 7t, or 8th result by definition already score very high points for those tournaments. Counting more than 6 results, only when they are excellent, would only put the likes of Federer, Sampras and Agassi (and in a few years Nadal and maybe Djokovic) further ahead of the rest of the field.

However, I have been thinking that winning a slam 7 times is rewarded disproportionally more than winning 6 and reaching a final once. This was never much of an issue, as only Sampras had won the same tournament more than 6 times, but now it seems we might have a realistic chance of Nadal winning, say Monte Carlo, 8 or 9 times, or Federer winning the TMC more than 6 times. The current system might be over-rewarding. I'll give the matter some thought, though I don't like rearranging the points allocation system too much.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_...and_statistics
Of course I've thought about it. I'd really like to know where Edberg, Becker, Wilander, Lendl and McEnroe would end up if I included their eighties results and how they'd compare to Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.
However, I had to draw the line somewhere. The introduction of the Masters Series in 1990 was a good moment as the calender has remained relatively unchanged ever since.

I could, for fun, work out the total points for Becker, Edberg and co, but it'd take some time and ever since I left university, time has become a precious commodity.

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I will post the top 100 twice a year to better keep track of the rise of players.
Here's the top 100 after Roland Garros 2012 (in brackets the score at year end 2011)

1 (1) Federer, Roger..................4593 (4515)
2 (3) Nadal, Rafael....................3711 (3471)
3 (2) Sampras, Pete................. 3710
4 (4) Agassi, Andre...................3392
5 (5) Djokovic, Novak................2644 (2327)
6 (6) Roddick, Andy...................2007
7 (7) Courier, Jim...................... 1898
8 (8) Becker, Boris.................... 1868
9 (9) Hewitt, Lleyton.................1847
10 (10) Edberg, Stefan..............1777

11 (13) Murray, Andy.................1719 (1585)
12 (11) Chang, Michael.............1685
13 (12) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny......1677
14 (14) Ivanisevic, Goran..........1564
15 (15) Muster, Tomas..............1476
16 (17) Ferrero, Juan Carlos.....1335 (1328)
17 (16) Kuerten, Gustavo.........1333
18 (18) Safin, Marat..................1323
19 (19) Moya, Carlos................1313
20 (20) Davydenko, Nikolay......1223

21 (21) Krajicek, Richard...........1210
22 (23) Nalbandian, David.........1186 (1174)
23 (22) Stich, Michael................1185
24 (28) Ferrer, David.................1134 (1019)
25 (24) Rafter, Patrick...............1114
26 (25) Henman, Tim.................1103
27 (26) Ferreira, Wayne............1049
28 (27) Rios, Marcelo.................1021
29 (29) Bruguera, Sergi.............1001
30 (30) Corretja, Alex................976

31 (31) Martin, Todd..................967
32 (32) Enqvist, Thomas...........965
33 (36) Berdych, Thomas..........962 (836)
34 (33) Haas, Tommy................954
35 (34) Gonzalez, Fernando.....881
36 (35) Korda, Petr...................870
37 (37) Robredo, Tommy...........823
38 (38) Grosjean, Sebastian.....791
39 (39) Costa, Albert................789
40 (40) Medvedev, Andrei.........785

41 (47) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried.......771 (671)
42 (41) Ljubicic, Ivan.................736
43 (42) Philippoussis, Mark.......732
44 (43) Pioline, Cedric...............728
45 (44) Coria, Guillermo............713
46 (46) Soderling, Robin...........694
47 (55) Del Potro, Juan Martin..685 (567)
48 (46) Lendl, Ivan...................680
49 (48) Björkman, Jonas...........656
50 (49) Rusedski, Greg.............642

51 (50) Forget, Guy...................605
51 (53) Verdasco, Fernando.....605 (579)
53 (51) Blake, James.................597
54 (52) Kiefer, Nicolas...............593
55 (58) Gasquet, Richard..........590 (534)
56 (53) Rosset, Marc.................579
57 (56) Johansson, Thomas......563
58 (57) Santoro, Fabrice...........543
59 (59) Youzhny, Mikhail...........533 (516)
60 (60) Novak, Jiri.....................500

61 (72) Simon, Gilles.................497 (425)
62 (61) Stepanek, Radek..........489
63 (63) Monfils, Gael.................486 (472)
64 (69) Wawrinka, Stanislas.....484 (436)
65 (79) Almagro, Nicolas...........479 (379)
66 (62) Hrbaty, Dominik............476
67 (64) Larsson, Magnus..........468
68 (65) Gaudio, Gaston............459
69 (66) Mantilla, Felix...............451
70 (67) Schüttler, Rainer..........447

71 (70) Fish, Mardy...................445 (433)
72 (68) Gustafsson, Magnus.....441
73 (71) Washington, MaliVai.....432
74 (72) Berasategui, Alberto.....425
75 (74) Schalken, Sjeng............422
76 (75) Norman, Magnus..........404
77 (76) Canas, Guillermo..........400
78 (77) Lapentti, Nicolas...........389
79 (81) Lopez, Feliciano...........385 (370)
80 (78) Novacek, Karel.............383

81 (80) Chela, Juan Ignacio......382 (375)
82 (82) Krickstein, Aaron..........367
83 (83) Baghdatis, Marcos........366
84 (84) Clement, Arnaud..........362
85 (85) Wheaton, David...........360
86 (86) Ancic, Mario..................356
87 (90) Cilic, Marin....................354 (340)
88 (87) Pavel, Andrei................349
89 (88) Chesnokov, Andrei.......348
90 (89) Sanchez, Emilio............344

91 (91) Volkov, Alexander.........338
91 (94) Melzer, Jurgen..............338 (328)
93 (82) Arazi, Hicham................334
94 (93) Boetsch, Arnaud...........333
95 (95) Clavet, Francisco..........315
96 (96) Spadea, Vince..............313
97 (97) Kucera, Karol...............310
98 (98) Ginepri, Robbie............290
98 (--) Malisse, Xavier..............290
100 (99) Costa, Carlos............283

101 (100) Mirnyi, Max..............282
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I will post the top 100 twice a year to better keep track of the rise of players.
Here's the top 100 at year end 2012 (in brackets the score at year end 2011)

1 (1) Federer, Roger..................4746 (4593)
2 (2) Nadal, Rafael....................3711
3 (3) Sampras, Pete................. 3710
4 (4) Agassi, Andre...................3392
5 (5) Djokovic, Novak................2965 (2644)
6 (6) Roddick, Andy...................2027 (2007)
7 (11) Murray, Andy..................1954 (1719)
8 (7) Courier, Jim...................... 1898
9 (8) Becker, Boris.................... 1868
10 (9) Hewitt, Lleyton................1847

11 (10) Edberg, Stefan..............1777
12 (12) Chang, Michael.............1685
13 (13) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny......1677
14 (14) Ivanisevic, Goran..........1564
15 (15) Muster, Tomas..............1476
16 (16) Ferrero, Juan Carlos.....1335
17 (17) Kuerten, Gustavo.........1333
18 (18) Safin, Marat..................1323
19 (19) Moya, Carlos................1313
20 (24) Ferrer, David.................1297 (1134)

21 (20) Davydenko, Nikolay......1230 (1223)
22 (21) Krajicek, Richard...........1210
23 (22) Nalbandian, David.........1186
24 (23) Stich, Michael................1185
25 (25) Rafter, Patrick...............1114
26 (26) Henman, Tim.................1103
27 (33) Berdych, Thomas..........1061 (962)
28 (27) Ferreira, Wayne............1049
29 (28) Rios, Marcelo.................1021
30 (29) Bruguera, Sergi.............1001

31 (34) Haas, Tommy................988 (954)
32 (30) Corretja, Alex................976
33 (31) Martin, Todd..................967
34 (32) Enqvist, Thomas...........965
35 (35) Gonzalez, Fernando.....881
36 (36) Korda, Petr...................870
37 (41) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried.......850 (771)
38 (37) Robredo, Tommy...........823
39 (47) Del Potro, Juan Martin..794 (685)
40 (38) Grosjean, Sebastian.....791

41 (39) Costa, Albert................789
42 (40) Medvedev, Andrei.........785
43 (42) Ljubicic, Ivan.................736
44 (43) Philippoussis, Mark.......732
45 (44) Pioline, Cedric...............728
46 (45) Coria, Guillermo............713
47 (46) Soderling, Robin...........694
48 (48) Lendl, Ivan...................680
49 (55) Gasquet, Richard..........665 (590)
50 (49) Björkman, Jonas...........656

51 (50) Rusedski, Greg.............642
52 (51) Verdasco, Fernando.....619 (605)
53 (51) Forget, Guy...................605
54 (53) Blake, James.................597
55 (54) Kiefer, Nicolas...............593
56 (56) Rosset, Marc.................579
57 (57) Johansson, Thomas......563
58 (58) Santoro, Fabrice...........543
58 (59) Youzhny, Mikhail...........543 (533)
60 (64) Wawrinka, Stanislas.....542 (484)

61 (61) Simon, Gilles.................526 (497)
62 (62) Stepanek, Radek..........522 (489)
63 (65) Almagro, Nicolas...........508 (479)
64 (60) Novak, Jiri.....................500
65 (71) Fish, Mardy...................499 (445)
66 (63) Monfils, Gael.................486
67 (66) Hrbaty, Dominik............476
68 (67) Larsson, Magnus..........468
69 (68) Gaudio, Gaston............459
70 (69) Mantilla, Felix...............451

71 (70) Schüttler, Rainer..........447
72 (87) Cilic, Marin....................445 (354)
73 (72) Gustafsson, Magnus.....441
74 (73) Washington, MaliVai.....432
75 (74) Berasategui, Alberto.....425
76 (75) Schalken, Sjeng............422
77 (76) Norman, Magnus..........404
78 (77) Canas, Guillermo..........400
79 (79) Lopez, Feliciano...........392 (385)
80 (78) Lapentti, Nicolas...........389

81 (80) Novacek, Karel.............383
82 (81) Chela, Juan Ignacio......382
83 (83) Baghdatis, Marcos........380 (366)
84 (82) Krickstein, Aaron..........367
85 (84) Clement, Arnaud..........362
86 (85) Wheaton, David...........360
87 (86) Ancic, Mario..................356
88 (88) Pavel, Andrei................349
89 (89) Chesnokov, Andrei.......348
90 (90) Sanchez, Emilio............344

91 (91) Volkov, Alexander.........338
91 (91) Melzer, Jurgen..............338
93 (--) Tipsarevic, Janko............335
94 (93) Arazi, Hicham................334
95 (94) Boetsch, Arnaud...........333
96 (95) Clavet, Francisco..........315
97 (96) Spadea, Vince..............313
98 (97) Kucera, Karol...............310
99 (--) Monaco, Juan................308
100 (98) Malisse, Xavier...........305 (290)

101 (--) Kohlschreiber, Philip.....298
102 (98) Ginepri, Robbie............290
103 (100) Costa, Carlos............283
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