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Old 11-23-2011, 10:00 PM   #46
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Obama is going to win it easily
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:03 PM   #47
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Barak Hussein Obama is clearly the worst president since Carter, and both the worst in the last 100 yrs. I hope Mr Obama goes on international election-watching soon too.
you are right. bush was much better than these two
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I predict a bagel and a breadstick.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:17 PM   #49
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racists on the left? Don't think you'll be finding too many of those.
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Try visiting Russia or Cuba. Racism is what people do, not what they say.
Don't think you'll meet that many leftists in Russia, Cuba or even China governing parties' policies and public opinion are probably far from each other in those countries.

Anyway, this depends on definition of left, this, doesn't it? Nazi parties may adopt left-wing economic policies but have a racist ideological base. For me that is anathema; if you want to be a "true" socialist, you want share the resources with everyone and not exclude some for reasons like ethnicity.

Tough times, so peoples votes will go more towards the right and the republicans will probably win. People don't realize that they are just as helpless as the democrats when it comes to saving the US economy.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:37 PM   #50
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you are right. bush was much better than these two
Just as bad, yes.
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Old 11-23-2011, 11:06 PM   #51
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The one thing I wish is that the U.S. had a time limit on an election like England does! All those political ads make me sick and they go on forever
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:02 AM   #52
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Barak Hussein Obama is clearly the worst president since Carter, and both the worst in the last 100 yrs. I hope Mr Obama goes on international election-watching soon too.
Carter was a great president. He was a peace maker. One of the finest presidents of the U.S.A.

He's usually hated by the particular patriots that prefer imperialistic invasions and robbery.

That's why the media depicts Reagan as some kind of idol, and Carter as some kind of slime.

When in reality, unlike Reagan, he did not have any war crimes in his name.

Carter= great for the world, bad for imperialism.

Reagan= great for imperialism, bad for the world.
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:33 AM   #53
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Carter was a great president. He was a peace maker. One of the finest presidents of the U.S.A.

He's usually hated by the particular patriots that prefer imperialistic invasions and robbery.

That's why the media depicts Reagan as some kind of idol, and Carter as some kind of slime.

When in reality, unlike Reagan, he did not have any war crimes in his name.

Carter= great for the world, bad for imperialism.

Reagan= great for imperialism, bad for the world.
Bullshit.
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Carter was a great president. He was a peace maker. One of the finest presidents of the U.S.A.

He's usually hated by the particular patriots that prefer imperialistic invasions and robbery.

That's why the media depicts Reagan as some kind of idol, and Carter as some kind of slime.

When in reality, unlike Reagan, he did not have any war crimes in his name.

Carter= great for the world, bad for imperialism.

Reagan= great for imperialism, bad for the world.
I like much about Carter, but I think he is disliked for his economic pollicies more than anything else. Economy failed with Carter.
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racists on the left? Don't think you'll be finding too many of those.
You're kidding right?
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:45 AM   #56
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Paul is the only one who offers any significant change from the policies of each president in the last 83 years. He'll be the only one receiving my vote, although I wouldn't mind seeing the racists on the left go crazy if it came down to Obama vs. Cain.
Ron Paul has been calling the issues of today out for 20 odd years... i have never seen a candidate with such epic consistency...

i'm not a yank, but Paul is the first republican i would have voted for... he is right... american's have no business policing the world...

besides you're broke like the rest ...

i have no doubt he will crush the fed and apply true free market principles... let the market decide what is of value and what is not... no more bailouts, just plain old tried and trusted economics - shit dies, shit grows again... no artificial levers and switches...

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Whoever of those wants to fix USA, and not fix the world instead, would get my vote
that would be ron paul - the non-interventionalist...

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Go Ron Paul! When I get to the US I want to have my drugs and my whores legally and no fiat money and no taxes!

I think it would be too much of a revolution, people are not prepared for him. Maybe when the system collapses, but then he will be too old.
ron paul will be assassinated if he is elected...

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Paul and Huntsman win EVERY SINGLE debate and won the debate last night, based on the parts of it I saw. But they're not "conservative enough" to be president.

In reality, Barack Obama has won the debates.
ron paul not conservative enough...? he's a strict constitutionalist... he's voted no more times than you taken hot sausage up the poop chute old mate... dunno how much more conservative you wanna get than that...

though... today, in world 2 party politics the lines between are mostly blurred...

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Paul is an extremist but at least he's not a totally stupid extremist.


only would someone who has been brainwashed would say that... paul's 08 and now his 12 campaign is providing the only ray of hope in any candidate for as far back as i can remember... i was fooled by obama though... i mean, the problems of september 2008 were so obvious that you had to fuck up pretty badly to not successful mount an economic rethink... nope, just more of the same - BORROW to REPAY and that is as stupid as trying to drink yourself sober... doesnt work...

i don't believe there has been a more right man for the job than paul...

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Haha, have fun with Obama taking your country and the dollar down to oblivion backed by his friends in the financial sector. Ron Paul, the not "totaly stupid" extremist dont want to pay trillions of dollars to failed banks, let the federal reserve destroy your economy creating false bubbles, fighting wars in foreign countries and another worthless war on drugs. In the end of Obama's 8 year span USA will be like Greece, you will be on your knees but no one will be able to save you.
the fed has inflated the world by producing meaningless cash...

the global vending scam has ended...

fractional reserve lending is the type of magic that should have been for Blotto the Clown...

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Ron Paul would be a great president, too bad that will be prevented from happening.
the media blackout of paul has been nothing short of astounding...

all the media outlets are tied into to the status quo... ron paul just doesn't threaten the status quo... he will render it lifeless forever...

yes all that and he believes in a free market too... can you believe it...?

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Obama for a 2nd term.
i was a supporter of barack obama... now i know that you are just another ill-educated yank who votes for style not substance...

you are the reason the world is in finincial meltdown...

sorry bro... educate yourself... it affects us too... be we can't do fuck all when only your voice drives the soon to be shipwreck of which we are a passenger...

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Barak Hussein Obama is clearly the worst president since Carter, and both the worst in the last 100 yrs. I hope Mr Obama goes on international election-watching soon too.
it could have all been so different... but, you are so right... obama fell in love with the idea of being the admired former statesman like clinton and not stopped doing a job - he just didnt fucking start it...

obama... turned out to be too phoney to see what is really going on...
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Obama will be re-elected.

I like Huntsman and he seems like an intelligent, well-spoken and sensible guy. This is probably why he's currently dead last in the polls
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Hilarious! Sadly I really think he has 0% to win this race. He is absolutely stuck at just under 10%, everyone else goes up and down like jojos between 5% and 30%, will any mainstream 40+ years old Limbaugh listening/fox new watcing voter ever decide to vote on dr.Paul?

It seems to be truly impossible, first old media needs to really become a nonfactor and not only for people under 30!
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Obama should be re-elected - he's the best Republican candidate in the field.

Old-school Republican that is, before they lurched so far to the right that virtually their entire field of candidates are stupid, clueless, crazy, narcissistic or some combination of all these.

As someone firmly of the liberal / social democrat tendency, the whole field is pretty scary for various reasons but it is just frightening how stupidly reactionary and clueless some of them are and are still being taken seriously while the grown-ups on the card are polling in the low single digits.

Even so, Gingrich is currently the guy at the top of the wave because the field is so bad that everyone in turn is getting a moment in the spotlight in a concerted "anyone but Romney" effort by the crazies. And Gingrich really is disgusting.
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