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abraxas21 · 03-04-2011, 12:32 AM

i dunno anything about this thing but as a general rule (minus some extremely rare exceptions), the answer should be nothing at all.

going by past history, odds are that whatever the west does, it will probably just make the situation worse.

fast_clay · 03-04-2011, 12:59 AM

doubt usa will get involved... as has been said, other nations will be shy of jumping into bed with the usa due almost entirely to the fact that it has been either massively discrediting or fatal to any government forming a 'coalition for oil'...

notwithstanding the fact the usa most likely do not want to tangle in foreign affairs likely to add cost to a deficit unlikely to ever be repaid...

octatennis · 03-04-2011, 09:44 PM

according to russians satelital images, there were no bombings in libya as the media has been saying since last week. looking for reasons to invade libya?

FormerRafaFan · 03-04-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by octatennis

according to russians satelital images, there were no bombings in libya as the media has been saying since last week. looking for reasons to invade libya?

And you believe the Russians.. why exactly?

abraxas21 · 03-05-2011, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sokk

And you believe the Russians.. why exactly?

and you believe the yanks or the euros? why exactly?

no-one has their hands cleans here

buddyholly · 03-05-2011, 01:28 AM

I smell another lefty wingnut conspiracy here. The bomb that landed beside the CNN crew looked pretty real to me.

But come to think of it, the landscape did look pretty much like the moon's surface. So that's my theory, the entire Libyan events are actually being filmed on the moon by NASA and then shown on CNN as being in Libya. Ben Wedeman is actually reporting from the moon, why do you think the shuttle just took off, people? Eh? Eh?

Mjau! · 03-05-2011, 02:24 AM

Maybe the world should mind its own bizniz?

out_here_grindin · 03-05-2011, 02:29 AM

Now 7 people are gunned down in Ivory Coast durring a peaceful demonstration.

Blackbriar · 03-07-2011, 09:05 AM

I suggest Nuclear Total War, bit it's only my opinion.

zeleni · 03-12-2011, 08:18 PM

Looks like Libyans refuse to become another NATO junk yard...

Dextertje · 03-14-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zeleni

Looks like Libyans refuse to become another NATO junk yard...

Gaddafi and his Serbian mercenaries are about to rule the world

djokovicgonzalez · 03-14-2011, 02:50 PM

Don't cause a world conflict, keep it a civil war

zeleni · 03-14-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 16>9>2

Gaddafi and his Serbian mercenaries are about to rule the world

Swisstard accuses somebody for mercenary?!?

peribsen · 03-16-2011, 06:52 PM

Gaddafi is pretty close to crushing the insurgence. While the West, expectedly, has done little but pay lip service to democracy and human rights.

The worst of it all is that this once again sends a very strong message to the Arab world: never expect the Western powers to actually act in accordance with their stated priciples on any issue that does not involve them directly.

The big losers here (besides obviously the Libian people), are everybody who in the Muslim world believe that a way can be found for friendly collaboration between themselves and us. The big winners (again) are all those bent on convincing all Muslims that nothing good for them will ever come from us, that the only option open for them is enmity with the West.

Our leaders outdo themselves. Neither terrorists nor radical islamists had much to do with starting this freedom movement, yet we have somehow managed to frame them as the group most likely to benefit from it all.

Once again (like happened in Algeria in the early 90s, or in Afghanistan in the 80s), we have managed to shoot ourselves in the foot. Once again, the consequences will not be inmediate, they'll take their time in brewing, but I fear that ultimately we wont be able to avoid them.

abraxas21 · 03-16-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by peribsen

Gaddafi is pretty close to crushing the insurgence. While the West, expectedly, has done little but pay lip service to democracy and human rights.

The worst of it all is that this once again sends a very strong message to the Arab world: never expect the Western powers to actually act in accordance with their stated priciples on any issue that does not involve them directly.

The big losers here (besides obviously the Libian people), are everybody who in the Muslim world believe that a way can be found for friendly collaboration between themselves and us. The big winners (again) are all those bent on convincing all Muslims that nothing good for them will ever come from us, that the only option open for them is enmity with the West.

Our leaders outdo themselves. Neither terrorists nor radical islamists had much to do with starting this freedom movement, yet we have somehow managed to frame them as the group most likely to benefit from it all.

Once again (like happened in Algeria in the early 90s, or in Afghanistan in the 80s), we have managed to shoot ourselves in the foot. Once again, the consequences will not be inmediate, they'll take their time in brewing, but I fear that ultimately we wont be able to avoid them.

what exactly would you have wanted the west to do?