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Old 01-22-2011, 08:19 PM   #16
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I think it is a shame they slowed down the grass. As far as the hard courts, I like a happy medium.
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Old 01-22-2011, 08:25 PM   #17
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The ATP won't speed up the courts. That would mean Nadull loses more often.
They will continue slowing down the courts so that Nadull will continue to win everything.

The fact that courts have been slowed down so much is one of the main reasons Nadull has won 4 non-clay slams.
Tennis is dead, and will continue to be dead until the courts are speeded up or Nadull starts losing more often.
This era really is a sad era in tennis.
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Do you think the average fan likes, two shot rallies or fifteen shot rallies?

And there folks is the answers to this thread sadly
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Like usual this thread turns into bashing, its just instane that you cant read one normal comment.
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Like usual this thread turns into bashing, its just instane that you cant read one normal comment.
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I don't really follow any individual players anymore. When I was growing up, I loved Agassi & Courier. Now a days, I am 10-15 years older than most players on the tour, so I won't be hanging Nadal posters in my living room anytime soon. But, I do enjoy watching him play. I try not to get into the greatest of all time stuff because I have a bias towards my own generation, which of course is an argument in and of itself. Snowwy, you asked if folks liked the two shot rallies or fifteen shot rallies. I would hope that a balance could be drawn where both styles could find a place in tennis. I don't think Wimbeldon suffered much when it had faster courts. I really miss having some great serve and volley players on the tour. I thought one of the most exciting match ups was the great baseline player against the great serve and volley player. Who could impose their will the best. Those days appear to be gone for now.
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I don't really follow any individual players anymore. When I was growing up, I loved Agassi & Courier. Now a days, I am 10-15 years older than most players on the tour, so I won't be hanging Nadal posters in my living room anytime soon. But, I do enjoy watching him play. I try not to get into the greatest of all time stuff because I have a bias towards my own generation, which of course is an argument in and of itself. Snowwy, you asked if folks liked the two shot rallies or fifteen shot rallies. I would hope that a balance could be drawn where both styles could find a place in tennis. I don't think Wimbeldon suffered much when it had faster courts. I really miss having some great serve and volley players on the tour. I thought one of the most exciting match ups was the great baseline player against the great serve and volley player. Who could impose their will the best. Those days appear to be gone for now.
I miss the S&V too, but think back to about fifteen years, what were the big complaints about men's tennis? Points were serve, return winner or serve, weak return, volley winner. To the average fan, that over and over is boring even though I really miss it in today's game.
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Unfortunately the tennis authorities are biased in favour of Nadal and his fans who support him. This Australian Open is even slower than it has been in previous year, though that might also be the Stosur effect.

In any case, tennis died when Nadal won Wimbledon, and it can never be resurrected from such an abhorrent event.

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I miss the S&V too, but think back to about fifteen years, what were the big complaints about men's tennis? Points were serve, return winner or serve, weak return, volley winner. To the average fan, that over and over is boring even though I really miss it in today's game.
It is an interesting argument for sure. I do remember that was the big complaint. I remember watching those indoor events played on carpet back in the early 1990's. I never saw play that fast. I have to admit, that extreme was a bit too much. It made for some brutal matches. I will say that Agassi's career GS is pretty impressive considering it happened in the 1990's.
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Unfortunately the tennis authorities are biased in favour of Nadal and the uneducated garbage who support him. This Australian Open is even slower than it has been in previous year, though that might also be the Stosur effect.

In any case, tennis died when Mugboar won Wimbledon, and it can never be resurrected from such an abhorrent event.
Don't worry there is always time to start another petition baha
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It is an interesting argument for sure. I do remember that was the big complaint. I remember watching those indoor events played on carpet back in the early 1990's. I never saw play that fast. I have to admit, that extreme was a bit too much. It made for some brutal matches. I will say that Agassi's career GS is pretty impressive considering it happened in the 1990's.
Oh for sure, I think we can safely say Roger would have never won the career GS in the 90's and Nadal wouldn't have by this point in his career either, he still could if he continues to adapt his game, but I don't think he would have won it either.

Although you could make the argument that Agassi winning on all four surfaces, yet not even being the best player of his generation meant that it was a weak era. I don't believe that, but I bet that could be very well supported.
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I agree, tennis died that day in wimbledon
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I miss the S&V too, but think back to about fifteen years, what were the big complaints about men's tennis? Points were serve, return winner or serve, weak return, volley winner. To the average fan, that over and over is boring even though I really miss it in today's game.
I miss it too, but only on tv. I play serve and volley myself and I love it. The great thing is these younger guys do not see it very often so they are not use to having to deal with it.
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Oh for sure, I think we can safely say Roger would have never won the career GS in the 90's and Nadal wouldn't have by this point in his career either, he still could if he continues to adapt his game, but I don't think he would have won it either.

Although you could make the argument that Agassi winning on all four surfaces, yet not even being the best player of his generation meant that it was a weak era. I don't believe that, but I bet that could be very well supported.
I don't think so either. If the courts from 1990-2000 were set at the same pace as today, I think Agassi would likely have grabbed a couple more Grand Slams, and may have squeaked out a couple more big matches against Pete. Pete would still have been the greatest of the generation tho, but maybe not quite as lop sided. The only evidence I can cite is Agassi's play in Australia over the course of his career, including 2 big wins against Sampras. I think we can safely say the courts at the AO were way slower that USO or W in those days, and it seemed to help Andre a lot in those matches. However, as we have learned from the Fed/Nadal match ups over the past 1/2 decade, tennis is a game of styles, and Sampras game was a match up nightmare for Agassi. The 1999 Wimbeldon was the best example. Agassi won the French and was on quite a roll getting into the final of W. Sampras took him to school that day. I am not sure anyone could have touched Sampras on that court, on that day,
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So much crap in such a short thread already

As far as I'm concerned, tennis is still alive. And instead of complaining and inventing excuses because one's fave doesn't win everything, I would kindly suggest that we enjoy the positive aspects of our favorite sport, of which still plenty of them are left.
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