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Old 12-26-2010, 11:13 PM   #16
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you wouldn't be a champ without my last second vote so cut the crap.
by the time they find out how many alias accounts voted Nathi i'd won by 5 votes anyway, at least
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i probably beat oh la la. 53-0 in 2nd round as well ..
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This thread needs more science.


Commander Data's living room heating problem:

System: living room
Initial temperature: T1
Final (desired) temperature: T2>T1


If we assume that the room is perfectly insulated, then according to the 1st law of thermodynamics: ΔU=Q, where ΔU is the change in the internal energy of the room and Q is the amount of heat we introduce to the system to increase the temperature from T1 to T2. So basically the energy of the room increases by Q.


However in reality things aren't that simple. The room is not perfectly insulated and we have to take into account the losses of energy to the environment (through the walls, windows etc). What is needed is an energy balance:

(Energy into the room) = (Energy out of the room) + (Energy Accumulation)

I don't want to get into details and start writing differential equations (for obvious reasons ), but I think one could simplify.


Assuming that we have a heating system with a thermostat programmed to our desired temperature T2, when we turn it on, the room will start warming up (i.e. the rate of heat going into the room will be greater than the rate of heat loss). Therefore the energy of the system increases (we have positive Energy Accumulation). Once the temperature reaches T2 a steady state will be established (ignoring small temperature fluctuations etc). From that point on, Energy Accumulation = 0, i.e. the energy of the system will remain unchanged.





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Ah, I thought of it as a closed system. I like thinking about entropy in terms of irreversibility. When you burn oil to heat a room you increase the room temperature but you cannot turn the energy back into its original form.
It cannot be a closed system since we are introducing heat into it in the first place.

Correct about the entropy, it always increases etc but I don't think it is something to worry about in this case.
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To be clear i don't laugh about the heating problem, I don't find science funny
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by the time they find out how many alias accounts voted Nathi i'd won by 5 votes anyway, at least


you had your fair share of zombies voting for you too, plus you resorted to widespread intimidation and blackmail.
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i can't believe that this rumour is still circulating
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This is all so interesting. We need another Mikey versus Nathi something or another.
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This thread needs more science.


Commander Data's living room heating problem:

System: living room
Initial temperature: T1
Final (desired) temperature: T2>T1


If we assume that the room is perfectly insulated, then according to the 1st law of thermodynamics: ΔU=Q, where ΔU is the change in the internal energy of the room and Q is the amount of heat we introduce to the system to increase the temperature from T1 to T2. So basically the energy of the room increases by Q.


However in reality things aren't that simple. The room is not perfectly insulated and we have to take into account the losses of energy to the environment (through the walls, windows etc). What is needed is an energy balance:

(Energy into the room) = (Energy out of the room) + (Energy Accumulation)

I don't want to get into details and start writing differential equations (for obvious reasons ), but I think one could simplify.


Assuming that we have a heating system with a thermostat programmed to our desired temperature T2, when we turn it on, the room will start warming up (i.e. the rate of heat going into the room will be greater than the rate of heat loss). Therefore the energy of the system increases (we have positive Energy Accumulation). Once the temperature reaches T2 a steady state will be established (ignoring small temperature fluctuations etc). From that point on, Energy Accumulation = 0, i.e. the energy of the system will remain unchanged.







It cannot be a closed system since we are introducing heat into it in the first place.

Correct about the entropy, it always increases etc but I don't think it is something to worry about in this case.
basically you're saying, if i set the central air system to a particular temperature, it will draw current/energy till it reaches that temp and then barring much need for reheating (assuming lack of drafts), it won't draw much current to keep it at that temp?
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oy nathii will never recover from losing two popularity contests in the span of two weeks or whatever the hell it's been
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Taking aliases out it's 1 vote of difference .
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oy nathii will never recover from losing two popularity contests in the span of two weeks or whatever the hell it's been
True. Arsen neither. Vote Arsen .
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Can't wait for Tulipe vs Eve in the final of Miss MTF I bet Nathii can't either
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can we please not talk about me winning the pop 'Wimbledon of the internet' contest 2010 anymore

i dont like the publicity

its the time for the Mr 'Estoril of the internet' of MTF to have their moment
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