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09-24-2010, 10:49 AM
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Re: No teens in the Top 100
18 year old(best rankings)
Murray 41
Del Potro 50
Gulbis 79
Cilic 101
Not the biggest talants in the next years, but players like Berankis, Dimitrov,Del Bonis, Harrison, Tomic, Krajinovic be the top30 players for sure.
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09-24-2010, 11:35 AM
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Re: No teens in the Top 100
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Originally Posted by flipsider
18 year old(best rankings)
Murray 41
Del Potro 50
Gulbis 79
Cilic 101
Not the biggest talants in the next years, but players like Berankis, Dimitrov,Del Bonis, Harrison, Tomic, Krajinovic be the top30 players for sure.
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09-24-2010, 11:36 AM
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Re: No teens in the Top 100
Well, look at the top players on the ATP and WTA tours. Federer. Serena. Venus. Nadal. Djokovic. Clijsters. These are powerfully built, strong and fast athletes, and mature adults. So, none of this is a surprise. The fact of the matter is, conditioning more than ever is important as a tennis professional. You need to be strong, you need to be fast, you need to have great endurance, you need to be injury tough. The older you are, the more likely you will be tougher physically.
Also, the difference in mental toughness, maturity and experiences is invaluable. The older players understand the grind of tennis, the focus you need to play your best every point, the fight, the training, they know the ins and outs of the game and being on tour. Younger players go through more ups and downs, and instability, emotionally, mentally, and aren't able to handle potentially pitfalls as effectively.
So, the combination of mental and emotional stress and the physicality of the game is why you are seeing fewer teen stars. And that is something that will only continue as the sport continues moving forward. You have to really earn your way and pay your dues and there is much more depth in the game overall. Only the strong survive.
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11-05-2010, 03:51 PM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
1 year and half later, still no teenagers in the top 100, and the youngest player in the next ranking will be Dolgopolov (22y 0m 1d). 
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11-05-2010, 03:52 PM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
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11-05-2010, 03:58 PM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
Prodigy teens are born in Mallorca once in a while
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11-05-2010, 04:14 PM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
Doesnt this just suggest this is not a mug era? The fact that talented teens can't in fact break into the top 100 and challenge the top guys from this era shows how tough the competition has become, NOT how weak the quality of the pool of teens (poor D.Young).
To be honest, spindly 17 and 18 year olds breaking through and winning a GS or two like Chang and Becker doesnt say much for the overall quality of the guys at the very highest levels in those apparently "strong" eras.
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11-05-2010, 04:23 PM
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Doesnt this just suggest this is not a mug era? The fact that talented teens can't in fact break into the top 100 and challenge the top guys from this era shows how tough the competition has become, NOT how weak the quality of the pool of teens (poor D.Young).
To be honest, spindly 17 and 18 year olds breaking through and winning a GS or two like Chang and Becker doesnt say much for the overall quality of the guys at the very highest levels in those apparently "strong" eras.
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Not really, more like it shows how hard it is to break through as a youngster when everyone ranked ahead of you plays virtually the same or similar style. There's no room for a talented youngster with a well rounded game to stand out because the surfaces and styles of play have become so homogenized.
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11-05-2010, 04:29 PM
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Not really, more like it shows how hard it is to break through as a youngster when everyone ranked ahead of you plays virtually the same or similar style. There's no room for a talented youngster with a well rounded game to stand out because the surfaces and styles of play have become so homogenized.
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I don't buy that, love.
It is all mental. If a player has the mindset of your post, then he definitely won't break through.
The difference between top 100 and top 200 is mostly the mental game. Everyone is good, matches turn on a few points 
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11-05-2010, 04:37 PM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
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Not really, more like it shows how hard it is to break through as a youngster when everyone ranked ahead of you plays virtually the same or similar style. There's no room for a talented youngster with a well rounded game to stand out because the surfaces and styles of play have become so homogenized.
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You must mean the tall, strong, hard-hitting types and slowed down surfaces. You're right there, especially looking at the challenger circuit, where these burly guys serve and out-hit the underdeveloped teens. I'm not sure this means everyone plays exactly the same though, that's like saying the S&V's from the past were all the same.. oh wait
Homogenized or not, the quality of the players these teens have to fight with in order to get anywhere near the top guys (i.e challenger players who most MTF guys aka Fedal nuthuggers would never have heard of) is FAR greater than it was in the past. Basically the strength in depth of mens tennis is immense in this era, regardless of how robotically (a word?) similar they are, or how boring you might find it. |
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11-05-2010, 06:53 PM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
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To be honest, spindly 17 and 18 year olds breaking through and winning a GS or two like Chang and Becker doesnt say much for the overall quality of the guys at the very highest levels in those apparently "strong" eras.
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Chang maybe, but Becker "spindly"? Did you *see* Becker at 17? He was built like an ox. |
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11-05-2010, 09:25 PM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
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I don't think someone of 19 is a child, you are pretty close to being fully developed when you are 19.
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yes, but by then you should already be in the top 100 to qualify for OP's diagram.
same thing on the women's side. i have no idea why
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11-05-2010, 10:26 PM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
Maybe the peak age of tennis players is getting older? I don't know.
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11-05-2010, 11:22 PM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
Game is more physically demanding today than always, and in turn is more mentally exhausting. Players at 18 are not really ready to compete with men match in and out for the most part, unless they have the games of men, and most have not matured to that level. Also there is a limit to the amount kids under 18 can play I think, which obviously plays a factor.
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11-06-2010, 01:04 AM
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Re: Where are teenagers ?
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