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Yes. 97 32.33%
Other factors (like competition and style of play) should be considered. 203 67.67%
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:47 AM   #1291
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lol thanks for the correction on the typo... and well i supposed you mean the tards and not the fans... there is a HUGE difference between the 2 -- the former doesn't have a brain nor can they read....
Yes, of course. There are some Nadalfans here that I like. The tards on the other hand... let's just say I liked Spain as a country more before I came to MTF.
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:50 AM   #1292
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Default Re: Nadal is not GOAT -- yet

Of course he is nowhere near GOAT status. He needs to keep this up for a few more years. Not 3 slams like this year, but 1-2.

But he is well on his way.
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:56 AM   #1293
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You're arguing for a lost cause. You see, us tennisfans are already very aware that Nadal needs at least 5 more slams to be in the GOAT discussion. And the Nadalfans on MTF are immune to reason. Either way you're not convincing anyone.

Also it's Borg not Bork
You always mix up Nadal fans with Nadal tards.. there must be a reason for that, don't know, maybe some analogy?
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:58 AM   #1294
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Yes, of course. There are some Nadalfans here that I like. The tards on the other hand... let's just say I liked Spain as a country more before I came to MTF.
Oh... so you can make the difference, that's good!
But why mistake Spain for posters on MTF? More than half of Nadal supporters here are not even Spanish, including several of the more lunatic fans
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:58 AM   #1295
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Default Re: Nadal is not GOAT -- yet

close this thread brad gilbert declared him goat already
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Old 09-14-2010, 04:06 AM   #1296
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Default Re: Nadal is not GOAT -- yet

Nadal=GOAT is the mother of all knee jerk reactions.
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Default Re: Nadal is not GOAT -- yet

People are over sensitive I guess. Many people started talking about Federer being the GOAT even before he won 7-8 slam titles. That's how it is. Nadal is not immune to that. His resume so far is unbelieveable and he has to be involved in future GOAT discussions even if he isn't there yet.

I am a Federer fan but even I can admit that.
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http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/art...404343670.html

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Default Re: Nadal is not GOAT -- yet

of course he not, the GOAT is always Roger
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i would love to see similar comparisons between borg and nadal... there are more similarities between the 2 of em at the same age... but i think borg's resume was more impressive at 24... he has more titles... more slams (even though he chose to play AOpen only once)... longer winning streak... won 2 year end tournaments... i believe at age 24 also have better winning percentage too...



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nadal is getting closer for sure. he is lacking the sheer # of slams and weeks at #1...but he will have his chance the next few years.
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Old 09-14-2010, 04:30 AM   #1302
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He needs to overtake federers slam record whatever that may be when roger retires
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Default Re: Nadal is not GOAT -- yet

GOAT is not a matter of numbers only. It takes into account how amazing the achievements of a certain player are. And that will always be a subjective issue. I can easily understand the people who are claiming Nadal could already be the GOAT after tonight. They have plenty of strong reasons to think like that
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In my opinion, the question of who is the Greatest Of All Time player should only be answered with numbers. Total slams, different slams, weeks at number one etc.

I see many people use things like playing style and level of competition to strengthen their argument against or fore some players' standing.

Do you think it should only be a question of numbers or should other factors be taken into account?
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seriously... if you guys love to flood the forum with nadal/fed threads... here's one more...

well ppl are already proclaiming nadal to be GOAT...

but...

bjorn borg have 10 slams by age 24... MORE than nadal... but he burned out at age 26 and retired... else he could have been the GOAT...

i am not saying nadal will become GOAT... but if there is one thing that some ppl should learn in this MTF forum... never count your chickens before they hatch...

so let's give nadal several more years to get the slams and #1 rankings to be proclaim as GOAT... i can already see that next thing ppl would demand from nadal is to get calendar slam...



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