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Old 08-05-2010, 11:49 AM   #31
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Today, there are more than 400,000 Palestinians in Lebanon who are deprived of their most basic rights. The Lebanese government has a list of tens of professions that a Palestinian is forbidden from being engaged in, including professions such as medicine, law and engineering. Palestinians are forbidden from owning property and need a special permit to leave their towns. Unlike all other foreign nationals in Lebanon, they are denied access to the health-care system. According to Amnesty international, the Palestinians in Lebanon suffer from "discrimination and marginalization" and are treated like "second class citizens" and "denied their full range of human rights.
Had not Israel ethnically cleansed his own territory and much of illegally occupied land in Palestine, those Palestinians would not have gone to Lebanon in the first place.
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I'm a proud asshole since 2000.

Making Israel look like the victim... please.
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a soldier from an enemy state crossed the border of another state,
The UN has issued a statement saying that the Israelis were pruning trees on their own side of the Blue Zone. During this a Lebanese sniper killed an Israeli. Both the Lebanese army and the UN knew in advance of the tree-pruning operation.
You could get all these facts on your Blackberry - if the unelected rulers of your country give you permission, that is.
But then maybe the truth has no place in the hate campaign against Israel. Almost all the posts in this thread that criticise the Israelis are written by people who are probably in possession of the facts - but see no reason to recognise them, because they don't support the hate.
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I'm a proud asshole since 2000.

Making Israel look like the victim... please.
You missed the point.
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The UN has issued a statement saying that the Israelis were pruning trees on their own side of the Blue Zone. During this a Lebanese sniper killed an Israeli. Both the Lebanese army and the UN knew in advance of the tree-pruning operation.
You could get all these facts on your Blackberry - if the unelected rulers of your country give you permission, that is.
But then maybe the truth has no place in the hate campaign against Israel. Almost all the posts in this thread that criticise the Israelis are written by people who are probably in possession of the facts - but see no reason to recognise them, because they don't support the hate.


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Old 08-05-2010, 12:58 PM   #35
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The UN has issued a statement saying that the Israelis were pruning trees on their own side of the Blue Zone. During this a Lebanese sniper killed an Israeli. Both the Lebanese army and the UN knew in advance of the tree-pruning operation.
You could get all these facts on your Blackberry - if the unelected rulers of your country give you permission, that is.
But then maybe the truth has no place in the hate campaign against Israel. Almost all the posts in this thread that criticise the Israelis are written by people who are probably in possession of the facts - but see no reason to recognise them, because they don't support the hate.
where did the UN say that? the links I could find are:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100803/...lebanon_israel

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10851692

"Major-General Gadi Eisenkot, head of Israel's northern command, said Lebanese snipers fired at officers inside Israeli territory."

"An Israeli army spokeswoman told the BBC that two officers had been attacked by "snipers from the Lebanese armed forces" in a "well-planned ambush"

clearly I'm not the one who needs to get my facts right here.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...e-border-clash

it says here "The investigations are still ongoing and the findings will be intimated on [their] conclusion."

it's clear in the video that the Israeli soldier is cutting a tree located behind the fence, therefore inside the Lebanese borders, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
No, it doesn't take a genius, but it takes more than a fool. Only a fool would think that the fence represented the border.
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where did the UN says that? the links I could find are:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100803/...lebanon_israel

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10851692

"Major-General Gadi Eisenkot, head of Israel's northern command, said Lebanese snipers fired at officers inside Israeli territory."

"An Israeli army spokeswoman told the BBC that two officers had been attacked by "snipers from the Lebanese armed forces" in a "well-planned ambush"

clearly I'm not the one who needs to get my facts right here.
What you need to do is get up-to-date news. But you are confusing me. Your two statements seem to support israel - maybe you are saying that any quote from Israel is a lie, I don't know. Try reading an up-to-date UN report then. Why are you linking a two-day-old report and not todays news?
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What you need to do is get up-to-date news. But you are confusing me. Your two statements seem to support israel - maybe you are saying that any quote from Israel is a lie, I don't know. Try reading an up-to-date UN report then. Why are you linking a two-day-old report and not todays news?
I can't, the unelected rulers don't allow me, would you please help and post the up-to-date UN report you read?
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Israelis responded with heavy armor. They never stop shooting until they have killed more victims than the other side.
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Israelis responded with heavy armor. They never stop shooting until they have killed more victims than the other side.
They weren't victims, they were the attackers.
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They weren't victims, they were the attackers.
like always, no?
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I can't, the unelected rulers don't allow me, would you please help and post the up-to-date UN report you read?
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/special/...9831281016537/
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like always, no?
We are talking about a specific incident here, no?
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