[Gêmeos]

Originally Posted by Danni John

纳天神天神神力 神功盖世

crazy...

[Mimi]

Originally Posted by Danni John

纳天神天神神力 神功盖世

oh god, you are Chinese?

yeah, Rafa 武功蓋世

[Danni John]

Originally Posted by mimi

oh god, you are Chinese?

yeah, Rafa 武功蓋世

No, I am a Swedish who has learned Chinese by myself

Rafa is so talented and so strong that no one can beat him Except himself

[Mimi]

Originally Posted by Danni John

No, I am a Swedish who has learned Chinese by myself

Rafa is so talented and so strong that no one can beat him Except himself

oh god, you learnt Chinese yourself, what a genius, I thought Chinese is a difficult language for Western people as the words involve so many strokes

是的，但 Murray 也打得很好，我很害怕他會輸因為他一輸，恨他的網友就會全面攻擊他:explode :

[coonster14]

age catches up to every player, so of course he will fall in the rankings.

but he will always be remembered for all his incredible achievements, one of the greatest players on clay, he has won slams on all three surfaces, beating Federer in grand slam finals on so many occasions, won Davis Cup twice (and counting...), not to mention Olympic Gold in singles (beat Djokovic in the SF who is a nightmare of a match-up for him on a fast HC). if he wins the US Open, he achieves the Career Golden Slam (only Agassi has achieved this so far).

i could care less if he is ranked outside the top 50, top 100 in 5 years time, he will always be my favourite player, and will be remembered by many as Federer's arch rival.

[Danni John]

Originally Posted by mimi

oh god, you learnt Chinese yourself, what a genius, I thought Chinese is a difficult language for Western people as the words involve so many strokes

是的，但 Murray 也打得很好，我很害怕他會輸因為他一輸，恨他的網友就會全面攻擊他:explode :

Murray just tries his best

he has already defended all his points so he can just enjoy his game

However rafa is the more favored

Chinese is a unique Language as well as it is such a beautiful one

[Mimi]

Originally Posted by Danni John

Murray just tries his best

he has already defended all his points so he can just enjoy his game

However rafa is the more favored

Chinese is a unique Language as well as it is such a beautiful one

thank you, thats true, though I am not very patriotic, but I do think Chinese is a very unique language as just one word can contain the deepest meanings.

[Gêmeos]

Originally Posted by Danni John

Murray just tries his best

he has already defended all his points so he can just enjoy his game

However rafa is the more favored

Chinese is a unique Language as well as it is such a beautiful one

In fact Murray is under the great pressure of the British crowd

[Mimi]

Originally Posted by Gêmeos

In fact Murray is under the great pressure of the British crowd

I hope the queen is going to watch this match so that murray will get nervous and allow rafa more chance to win

[Danni John]

Originally Posted by mimi

thank you, thats true, though I am not very patriotic, but I do think Chinese is a very unique language as just one word can contain the deepest meanings.

that is the most difficult part of Chinese

however I will try my best

and good luck to both Legend Rafa and Cute Andy

[Mimi]

Originally Posted by Danni John

that is the most difficult part of Chinese

however I will try my best

and good luck to both Legend Rafa and Cute Andy

you are already very good, i don't know a Swedish word

[NADALbULLS]

Originally Posted by mimi

I hope the queen is going to watch this match so that murray will get nervous and allow rafa more chance to win

The Queen will be a bigger Nadal fan than Shakira when tis over

[Mimi]

Originally Posted by NADALbULLS

The Queen will be a bigger Nadal fan than Shakira when tis over

of course, Rafa is way more successful than Shakira

[lazybear]

Originally Posted by M4RC

Your point is based on wild speculation, so I feel free to speculate as well.

1) If Nadal had to retire at 28 he would had remained 11 years as an elite tennis player. He could feel very well satisfied, with or without knee issues.

2) At the age of 22 Nadal had already accomplished everything that can be accomplished in men's professional tennis: several slams on 3 different surfaces, a bunch of M1000, several Davis Cups, Olympics Gold in singles and world #1.

3) Apart from that, he will always be remembered as Federer's nemesis, the one that prevented him to increase his legacy, the one that won 2/3 matches against him, the one that defeated him in 3/4 slam finals (including surfaces like hard and grass where Federer is considerered one of the greatest ever to play on them). He will always be remembered as the dominator between the two in his rivalry against probably the best player to ever play the game.

4) He is not the pigeon of any other player, and he has not a differential of -2 in his H2H against any other player. He is probably one of the toughest players to beat ever and probably the best ever at the mental department. His defense and movement while fit and healthy is also unparalleled. He also has the best records while playing 5-setters.

5) That facts alone are impressive, but he also possesses the best records, stats and streaks ever achieved on clay. He is an extremely great player overall but has also mastered to near perfection his game on clay (he is considered the best ever on the surface by many).

Now let's speculate:

6) If Nadal wins another Wimbledon (quite likely to happen this year), 1 USO and two more RG he'd have 11 Slams, including 7 RG (the absolute clay GOAT forever), 2 Wimbledons, 1 AO and 1 USO. That means he would complete the Career Golden Slam including at least a couple of slams on every surface. Has any other player of the Open Era ever achieved it? Not even Federer.

7) If Nadal wins two more M1000 he would have 20. None of the current pro players are going to win more than 10-12 (at their very best) overall.

I don't need him to be considered the GOAT (and he won't) and I'm perfectly fine with his current career (it's TOP-10 right now), but if he manages to win 1 Wimbly (this year he has a very good chance), 1 USO (I have the feeling he'll have a shot this year or in 2011), 2 RG (HEAVY, and I mean HEAVY favourite) and 2 M1000 (quite likely to happen in 2010) then he'd have one of the best overall careers including the Golden Slam (not to forget he achieved the Olympic Gold on a fast hardcourt) with 2+ of slams on every surface (one-dimensional dirt moonballer, anyone?), 20 M1000, at least 3 Davis Cups, clayGOAT status for ages and the edge of the rivalry between him and Federer.

PS. Federer is great and 16>7. I'm just pointing that Nadal has nothing left to prove in tennis and he could well retire today and be remembered as a legend in the game (the same goes for Federer, obviously).

Wow, that's a surprisingly good, and even somewhat unbiased post from you. Well done.

[NADALbULLS]

Originally Posted by mimi

of course, Rafa is way more successful than Shakira

I see what you did there