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#1 · (Edited)
obama v. romney.

it's on.
 
#62 ·
I remember 3 years ago you posted that Obama would solve the Middle East/Israel problem within a month of his election. You are very forgiving - or maybe very forgetful.

Anyway, do you have any predictions for his second term to-do list?
 
#57 ·
Obama will be re-elected.

I like Huntsman and he seems like an intelligent, well-spoken and sensible guy. This is probably why he's currently dead last in the polls :eek:
 
#59 ·
Hilarious! Sadly I really think he has 0% to win this race. He is absolutely stuck at just under 10%, everyone else goes up and down like jojos between 5% and 30%, will any mainstream 40+ years old Limbaugh listening/fox new watcing voter ever decide to vote on dr.Paul?

It seems to be truly impossible, first old media needs to really become a nonfactor and not only for people under 30!
 
#60 ·
Obama should be re-elected - he's the best Republican candidate in the field.

Old-school Republican that is, before they lurched so far to the right that virtually their entire field of candidates are stupid, clueless, crazy, narcissistic or some combination of all these.

As someone firmly of the liberal / social democrat tendency, the whole field is pretty scary for various reasons but it is just frightening how stupidly reactionary and clueless some of them are and are still being taken seriously while the grown-ups on the card are polling in the low single digits.

Even so, Gingrich is currently the guy at the top of the wave because the field is so bad that everyone in turn is getting a moment in the spotlight in a concerted "anyone but Romney" effort by the crazies. And Gingrich really is disgusting.
 
#63 ·
Seingeist and Buddyholly, your Obama hating is ridiculous. He did a good job in a difficult context.
 
#67 ·
"Obama hating?"

Get lost, Grassquet. I grow so tired of this BS.

I said I am staunchly opposed to his policies (at the same time that I was defending him from Mjau's ridiculous epithets, you imbecile) and I noted his use of political rhetoric during his 2008 campaign.

Both my social and economic leanings are far more conservative than liberal, which aligns me much more closely with Republican platforms and policies than Democratic ones. I am not going to suddenly start thinking that wrongheaded initiatives are great ideas just because they issue from an international subject of worship.

And not even a great many Obama-supporting Democrats here in the U.S. would dare claim that he's done a "good job."
 
#112 ·
i don't have the will to read every stupid post those 2 have made in this thread so i'll just state my opinion on obama: he's a clown.

but please allow me to explain: he is an opportunist with little principles and an astaunding lack of moral codes, even for US presidents' standards. mind you, i maintained this exact opinion about him from the get go. his idiotic 'change to come' campaign was only swallowed by tons of dumb yanks who were tired of bush and a million of liberal euros who were so gullible to believe that just because obama was black and relatively young he was virtually going to be the savior of the world. then some mugs in stockholm had the balls to give him the nobel prize. the ceremony would have been quite hilarious if only the 'prize' hadn't been prostituted so much before that it could only be considered as the icing of the cake to watch a warmongering clown like obama winning an peace contest.

then again, there was never any reason to be fooled by him. his hawkish credentials were already well stated before he got to be president. from his stance in the patriot act until his approval of wars in the middle east or his support of the jewish state of israel.
 
#116 · (Edited)
i don't have the will to read every stupid post those 2 have made in this thread so i'll just state my opinion on obama: he's a clown.
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I mentioned the word "Obama'' once in this thread, to say that I remember bilbo predicting he would solve the ME crisis in six weeks.

So you see, by reading and accepting the always nonsensical posts of Grassquet, you are just making a fool of yourself and posting nonsense in turn. But carry on, we are used to it by now.
 
#122 ·
I mentioned the word "Obama'' once in this thread, to say that I remember bilbo predicting he would solve the ME crisis in six weeks.

So you see, by reading and accepting the always nonsensical posts of Grassquet, you are just making a fool of yourself and posting nonsense in turn. But carry on, we are used to it by now.
says the one calling Obama a thick-lipped bastard.
 
#64 ·
since i can't be bothered to do any research on this: can someone tell me about this "gingrich cheated on his wife while she had cancer"-thing? and if that's actually true, how in the world did he manage to survive the primaries so far? his opposition should've had a field day over the last couple of months.
 
#65 ·
He hasn't been near the top of the polls until last week or so. Now that he's doing well he'll get more scrutiny. I haven't bothered to look at the details either, but if there's even a hint of scandal then it'll come out. Right now he's being hammered on his immigration stance, though, so we'll probably have to wait for that to die down.
 
#78 ·
Are you kidding? Under Obama, it took forever till they started pulling out troops (he promised ASAP but he started near the end of his campaign), on top of that, under his presidency, the U.S. invaded Libya. If that's not waging war, not sure what is.

Ron Paul>>>>>>>>Obama and the rest of the Republican candidates.

Too bad he won't get elected though.

Oh well. He tried.
 
#79 ·
Ron Paul is alright, but some people drink his fucking Kool-Aid so much it's ridiculous. He's not anywhere near as magical as his diehard supporters think he is.

He's also not going to win the election, so it's sort of irrelevant to bring him up here. He's not a contender.
 
#92 ·
I would rather drink the fucking Kool-aid of someone with convictions and ideals that stand against the media and corporation lobbyists than worship some guy that comes up as the messiah backed up by big banks and the media and with a lousy slogan for the stupids "yes, we can" (what can you do, mr.Obama?) and few can even identify what the guy actually wants to do in the first place, what does he belive in?

Obama is all about rhetoric without any content, wishywashy stuff that sounds good to the ear but few people actually can rationally explain what he actually said he wants to do. I dont even think Obama is a bad person, I think he is weak and he is a puppet without knowing with and he doesnt have experience to stand up for anything that goes against the big banks and media who backed him up. For example everyone knows Obama used to be pro-Palestina, but he is so afraid of the Israel lobby he wont change anything in the US policy. Obama had 2 years with absolute majority when he could increase taxes for the rich but didnt, now he can blame republicans for his irresponsible stimilus packages that he couldnt back up with any funding. If Obama is a socialdemocrat/socialist he certanly doesnt even dare to be that, Kucinich would be a man of the left who would stand by his ideals. Obama is just a corporate puppet who will just do anything he is commanded to do by those advisers the big companies put in place to move Obama to the right direction, alot like Bush in many ways.
 
#91 ·
Basically, all Barack has to do is allow every single Republican candidate (with a chance to win) blow up, and he'll win the election by default. And so far, the strategy is working.

Absolutely shocking how far things have devolved in America that we have Gingrich and Romney fighting for the chance to be president.
 
#93 ·
Obama is a weak ass president without convictions, but that doesn't mean Paul is a magical candidate. He has his holes. Just because someone has convictions doesn't make those convictions actually palatable to be president (general statement, not an indictment against Ron Paul).
 
#94 ·
Anyway, in the tragic situation we're in right now, I'd take a generally decent person with weak convictions in Obama, than the corrupt Gingrich and slickster Romney. They are both evil. And those are really the only three candidates with a shot at winning the presidency.
 
#101 ·
The race is now actually getting interesting.
Romney is still the overwhelming favorite, but with some good breaks, both Gingrich and Paul have a chance.

That, together with the proportional allocation of delegates in the primaries, is going to make for drawn-out and fun campaign. Awesome!

BTW, fantastic video for Paul up there.
 
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