Yeah, #16 is definitely fallible (even Chloe lost an argument once. once.).
The Me thread is a classic trainwreck, but like the TV show '24', if you weren't there at the beginning, you may not be able to catch up.
Double standards are in full effect. If Marat does something, it's 'just Marat.' If Roddick does the same exact thing, it's because he's the biggest baby-eating monster on the face of the planet.