Originally Posted by duong
Ferrer was very near in that match against Murray in AO 2011
Bercy 2008, Fed and Nadal retiring in quarters, no top-4 in semis
in these conditions Ferrer would also have won one M1000
he made 3 M1000 finals to Tsonga 2 (and remember how Tsonga reached Bercy final last year defeating Seppi and Isner on his favorite surface
if you take out pre-2007 Federer who was a very special player who Tsonga didn't have to meet,
you have Tsonga 11-19 Ferrer 9-26
Moreover Ferrer is 4-5 against Murray, Tsonga is 1-5
Ferrer has been ahead of Tsonga how many months before ??
He wasn't near. He lost in 4 and Murray's victory was never in doubt.
If Ferrer could win in those conditions, then why didn't he win Bercy 2008?
Why should we take pre-2007 Federer? To make Ferrer look better? What about removing the special Djokovic 2011 to make Tsonga look better as well? Federer is always Federer.
An who cares about H2H about Murray? Murray is not a multi slam winner. Should I pull the H2H against some random tour player to make Tsonga look better.
Regardless of excuses, Tsonga has better achievements and has beaten each of the top 3 in GS tournaments.