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Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-06-2012, 10:15 PM
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Lightbulb Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time

Don't forget, Rosewall and Gonzales also judged current with older players, basing their judgments on athletic ability, range of strokes (Sir Norman Brookes claimed that Tilden and Hoad possessed the...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-06-2012, 02:45 AM
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Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time

Players then did not walk around, grimace, bounce the ball about twenty times before serving, play talking games with the crowd, clown around, but they did their business and did not unnecessarily...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-06-2012, 02:34 AM
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Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time

By today's "weight training techniques" should we include substances such as growth hormones, steroids, oxygenating fluids, etc.?
The use of these "techniques", plus "recreational" drugs (especially...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-05-2012, 07:22 PM
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Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time

If you would examine the training regimens of the great players of the 1950's and 1960's, you would find that most of them were in superior shape to today's players. They learned to do rigourous...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-04-2012, 04:58 PM
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Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time

The people who are best qualified to compare and rate great players are the other players who played against them. The majority of great players who played against Hoad (including Gonzales, Rosewall,...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-03-2012, 10:08 PM
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Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time (Djokovic up to #31)

Groove Dude, there is some misunderstanding about what constitutes a Pro Slam. In fact, there were no Pro Slams before open tennis.
Some tournaments had more prestige and money than others, such as...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-03-2012, 08:19 PM
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Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time (Djokovic up to #31)

Saberq, your numbers are a little bit off. In 1959, Ganzales and Hoad had their serves measured, with Gonzales coming in at 112 mph. and Hoad at 110 mph. This measurement was different from today,...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-03-2012, 07:53 PM
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Posted By DLobb
Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time (Djokovic up to #31)

[QUOTE=Groove Dude;11598490]Loving the discussion :yeah:



Its tough for me to put Hoad up much higher (though I will put him up to #36), due to his inconsistency. Yeah Gonzales and Kramer and...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-03-2012, 03:53 AM
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Posted By DLobb
Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time (Djokovic up to #31)

Saberq, would Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantle have been stars today in baseball? How about Bobby Hull or Maurice Richard in hockey? You won't find a sports writer who would deny this.
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-03-2012, 03:26 AM
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Posted By DLobb
Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time (Djokovic up to #31)

Saberg, I must have been inspired by the level of your own posts.
Really, some of the huge, lumbering giants who play the circuit today would have trouble surviving the rigours of the old pro...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-03-2012, 01:59 AM
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Posted By DLobb
Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time (Djokovic up to #31)

Just by looking at the players on the pro circuit today, you can see that they are inferior athletes to the top ten or so players in the 1960's. Players like Gonzales, Hoad, Emerson, Laver, Anderson,...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-02-2012, 07:14 PM
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Posted By DLobb
Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time (Djokovic up to #31)

Hoad was inconsistent as an amateur before 1958, as he himself admitted, saving his best tennis for the Slam events and Davis Cup. He was often upset in minor tournaments.
After turning pro, he...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-02-2012, 04:35 PM
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Posted By DLobb
Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time (Djokovic up to #31)

Hoad's record was uneven due to recurrent back problems.
However, when his back was holding up, his record was extraordinary.
When he started his tour against Gonzales in 1958, he took the...
Forum: Advanced Discussions   01-02-2012, 12:30 AM
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Posted By DLobb
Re: Professor Johnny Groove's Top 55 tennis players of all time (Djokovic up to #31)

Mention of Rosewall leads me to consider Rosewall's own personal ranking of the world's greatest ever tennis players in an interview he gave to an Italian magazine in 2010.
1)Hoad
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