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Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:17 PM

Purple Rainbows TMS Era (and beyond!) Ranking List!
 
To add a little bit of work myself to the greatest tennis player debate, I went out to construct a list of the greatest tennis players of the TMS era. Since it proved very difficult to compare between eras, I've decided to compare results from players since the atp adopted the Masters Series tournaments in 1990. Well, they were still called Super 9 tournaments by then, but the atp calendar has remained roughly the same ever since. Besides, by 1990, the Australian Open wasn't shunned by the top players at was during most of the eighties.


Criteria for inclusion:

A player must have reached at least the quarterfinals of a Grand Slam tournament, or the semifinals of a TMS event. Though results all the way back to 1990 are counted, players reaching the latter stages of big events only in 1991 or 1990 are not included in this list, as I wanted players who were active in the TMS era for at least a few years. This led to the exclusion of the likes of Jimmy Connors, Andres Gomez and Pat Cash, players who were hardly active in the nineties.

These inclusion criteria led to some surprising players in the list. Most notably Andre Sa (one Wimbledon quarterfinal) and Roberto Carretero, who won Hamburg 1996 and achieved nothing else in his career. Some players with decent results have not been included. For example, Oliver Rochus, the more succesful of the Rochus brothers is not in, whereas Christophe did make the list.

Yet, the inclusion criteria are broad enough, proven by the fact that the entire top 30 as I write this is on the list. The highest ranked player not to make it is Kristof Vliegen (ranked 31).


Points allocation:

Players are rewarded for their achievements at Slams and Masters Series (super 9) tournaments. Points allocation went as follows:

Grand Slam:
Win: 100
Final: 70
SF: 45
QF: 25
R16: 15
R32: 7

Masters Event:
Win: 50
Final: 35
SF: 22
QF: 12
R16: 7

TMC/ATP world championship:
RR win: 10
SF win: 20
Final win: 25

Note 2 things about the points allocation. First, the awarded points are similar (well, 1/10th) to the points players gain for their entry ranking total. In 2009, the ranking points system was changed. I will continue this thread and will start a new thread for the era from 2009 onwards. I will start this thread somewhere after the FO.

A second note about the points system, no points are awarded for 1st or 2nd round losses. This is partly because I don't feel players should be rewarded for early losses, partly because 1 and 3 points wouldn't make much of a difference anyway and partly because it was enough work as it was already.

Finally, I've given players points for other titles won. Every "other" title is worth 10 points.

6th best result:

A problem I have with other people making lists like this, is that they count every result a player has had. This way, longevity gets excessively rewarded. In my opinion, a few top results from a player are more important than a lot of 3rd or 4th round exits. I chose to count only the top 6 results from every player at every tournament (Note that apart from top players like Agassi, Sampras or Ivanisevic, not many players have more than 6 good results at their name at any event anyway).
There's one exception to this 6th result rule. In case a player wins the same event more than 6 times, he gets to add to his total. The only player to have won an event more than 6 times is of course Pete Sampras, so he gets 700 points for his Wimbledon achievements.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:17 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
Updated after Indian Wells 2015.

Another IW title for Djokovic, who beat Federer in the final.

1) Federer, Roger............4987
2) Nadal, Rafael...............4448
3) Djokovic, Novak..........3934
4) Sampras, Pete...............3710
5) Agassi, Andre................3392
6) Murray, Andy...............2463
7) Roddick, Andy.................2027
8) Courier, Jim................... 1898
9) Becker, Boris................. 1868
10) Hewitt, Lleyton..........1867

11) Edberg, Stefan..............1777
12) Ferrer, David..............1710
13) Chang, Michael.............1685
14) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny......1677
15) Ivanisevic, Goran..........1564
16) Muster, Tomas..............1476
17) Berdych, Tomas...........1468
18) Ferrero, Juan Carlos.....1335
19) Kuerten, Gustavo..........1333
20) Safin, Marat...................1323

21) Moya, Carlos.................1313
22) Davydenko, Nikolay.....1249
23) Krajicek, Richard..............1210
24) Nalbandian, David...........1186
25) Stich, Michael..................1185
26) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried.....1141
27) Rafter, Patrick.................1114
28) Henman, Tim...................1103
29) Haas, Tommy................1089
30) Ferreira, Wayne..............1049

31) Wawrinka, Stanislas.... 1042
32) Del Potro, Juan Martin..1031
33) Rios, Marcelo..................1021
34) Bruguera, Sergi.............1001
35) Corretja, Alex.................976
36) Martin, Todd...................967
37) Enqvist, Thomas.............965
38) Robredo, Tommy..........940
39) Gasquet, Richard..........887
40) Gonzalez, Fernando.......881

41) Korda, Petr.....................870
42) Grosjean, Sebastian.......791
43) Costa, Albert..................789
44) Medvedev, Andrei............785
45) Ljubicic, Ivan...................736
46) Philippoussis, Mark..........732
47) Pioline, Cedric.................728
48) Coria, Guillermo...............723
49) Soderling, Robin...........694
50) Simon, Gilles.................691...+1

51) Verdasco, Fernando......690...-1
52) Lendl, Ivan......................680
53) Cilic, Marin....................678
54) Björkman, Jonas..............656
55) Rusedski, Greg................642
56) Youzhny, Mikhail...........636
57) Forget, Guy.....................605
58) Blake, James...................597
59) Kiefer, Nicolas..................593
60) Almagro, Nicolas...........588

61) Rosset, Marc....................579
......Monfils, Gael..................579
63) Johansson, Thomas.........563
64) Santoro, Fabrice..............543
65) Stepanek, Radek...........536
66) Lopez, Feliciano............531
67) Raonic, Milos....................515...+3
68) Nishikori, Kei...................506
69) Novak, Jiri........................500...-2
70) Fish, Mardy....................499...-2

71) Hrbaty, Dominik...............476
72) Larsson, Magnus.............468
73) Gaudio, Gaston................459
74) Mantilla, Felix..................451
75) Schüttler, Rainer..............447
76) Isner, John.....................443...+1
77) Gustafsson, Magnus........441...-1
78) Washington, MaliVai........432
79) Berasategui, Alberto........425
80) Schalken, Sjeng...............422

81) Norman, Magnus.............404
82) Canas, Guillermo.............400
83) Melzer, Jurgen.................396
84) Kohlschreiber, Philipp.....395
85) Lapentti, Nicolas...............389
......Tipsarevic, Janko............389
87) Baghdatis, Marcos...........387
88) Novacek, Karel..................383
89) Chela, Juan Ignacio............382
90) Krickstein, Aaron...............367

91) Clement, Arnaud.................362
92) Wheaton, David.................360
93) Ancic, Mario.......................356
94) Pavel, Andrei......................349
95) Chesnokov, Andrei.............348
96) Sanchez, Emilio..................344
97) Monaco, Juan.................339
98) Volkov, Alexander..............338
99) Arazi, Hicham.....................334
100) Boetsch, Arnaud...............333

101) Clavet, Francisco...........315
102) Spadea, Vince................313
103) Kucera, Karol................310
104) Malisse, Xavier.............305
105) Nieminen, Jarkko.........291
106) Ginepri, Robby.............290
107) Costa, Carlos..................283
108) Mirnyi, Max...................282
109) El Aynaoui, Younes..........277
110) Gulbis, Ernests...............276

111) Escude, Nicolas...............273
112) Karlovic, Ivo................271
113) Hlasek, Jakob..................269
114) Woodforde, Mark............265
115) Mathieu, Paul-Henri.....264
116) Benneteau, Julian...........260
117) Dimitrov, Grigor.................252
118) Srichaphan, Paradorn......248
119) Woodbridge, Todd.........242
120) Siemerink, Jan................241

121) Gambill, Jan-Michael.......238
122) Stoltenberg, Jason.........237
123) Haarhuis, Paul.......................236
124) McEnroe, John......................229
125) Zabaleta, Mariano.................220
.......Andreev, Igor......................220
127) Yzaga, Jaime.........................214
128) Seppi, Andreas.................213
129) Reneberg, Richey..................210
130) Dolgopolov jr., Aleksandr..209

131) Leconte, Henri......................200
132) Ulihrach, Bodan...................198
133) Mayer, Florian....................195
.......Fognini, Fabio....................195
135) Llodra, Michael................194
136) Cherkasov, Andrei..............193
137) Massu, Nicolas...................185
138) Woodruff, Chris...................180
139) Chardy, Jeremy.................171
140) McEnroe, Patrick................170

141) Prpic, Goran.........................169
142) Black, Byron........................167
143) Eltingh, Jacco......................165
144) Sanchez, Javier...................163
........Dosedel, Slava....................163
146) Janowicz, Jerzy...................162
147) Masur, Wally.......................161
.......Mansdorf, Amos...................161
.......Squillari, Franco....................161
150) Puerta, Mariano...................159

151) Gaudenzi, Andrea................152
152) Johansson, Joachim..............150
153) Karbacher, Bernd..................141
154) Meligeni, Fernando...............140
.........Calleri, Agustin.....................140
156) Steeb, Carl-Uwe...................138
157) Furlan, Renzo.......................135
158) Wilander, Mats.....................133
.........Acasuso, Jose.......................133
160) Koubek, Stefan.....................131

161) Tomic, Bernard.................130...+4
162) Golmard, Jerome..................129...-1
163) Hanescu, Victor.................127...-1
164) Bergstrom, Christian............126...-1
.........Volandri, Filippo................126...-1
166) Mancini, Alberto...................118...-1
167) Verkerk, Martin....................116
168) Steven, Brett.......................114
169) Kulti, Nicklas........................109
.........Bellucci, Thomaz...............109

171) Bautista Agut, Roberto......107
172) Tillström, Mikael...................104
173) Alami, Karim......................96
174) Sanguinetti, David...............95
175) Dewulf, Filip.......................90
176) Portas, Albert.......................85
........Pernfors, Mikael..................85
178) Vinciguerra, Andreas........83
.........Kubot, Lukasz...................83

180) Filippini, Marcelo..................82
181) Muller, Gilles......................76
182) Ondruska, Marcos...............72
.......Popp, Alexander...................72
184) Blanco, Galo.........................71
185) Voinea, Adrian.....................70
186) Andujar, Pablo..................66
187) Rochus, Christophe..............65
188) Lu, Yen-Hsun.....................60
189) Paire, Benoit.......................57
.........Kyrgios, Nick.....................57

191) Voltchkov, Vladimir.............52
192) Dreekmann, Hendrik.............51
193) Carretero, Roberto...............50
194) Levy, Harel...........................47
.......Matsuoka, Shuzo...................47
196) Radulescu, Alex...................39
197) Labadze, Irakli....................37
198) Pospisil, Vasek..................36
199) Sa, Andre...........................25


Active players in bold.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournament played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:19 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 20 players at the AO since 1990. Updated after AO 2015.

Novak Djokovic won the AO for the fifth time, becoming #1 on this list.


1) Djokovic, Novak..........525...+2
2) Federer, Roger.............515...-1
3) Agassi, Andre.................490...-1
4) Sampras, Pete...............385
5) Murray, Andy...............295...+3
6) Nadal, Rafael...............335...-1
7) Edberg, Stefan...............315...-1
8) Courier, Jim....................310...-1
9) Safin, Marat...................269
10) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny.....245

11) Becker, Boris................232
12) Roddick, Andy................230
13) Lendl, Ivan...................210
14) Wawrinka, Stanislas..199......+4
15) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried...195...-1
16) Ferrer, David.............180...-1
.....Berdych, Tomas..........180......+4
18) Chang, Michael............167...-1
19) Tommy Haas..............164...-1
20) Ferreira, Wayne...........160...-1


Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournament played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:19 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 10 players at Indian Wells since 1990. Updated for 2015.

Djokovic edged out Federer in the final.
Few changes otherwise.


1) Federer, Roger.............270
2) Djokovic, Novak..........257
3) Nadal, Rafael................229...-1
4) Chang, Michael...............191
5) Sampras, Pete................181
6) Agassi, Andre.................166
7) Hewitt, Lleyton.............164
8) Courier, Jim....................143
9) Roddick, Andy.................125
10) Edberg, Stefan.............116


Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournament played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 10 players at Miami/Key Biscane since 1990. Updated for 2014.

Djokovic won Miami for the fourth time, beating Rafa in the final.


1) Agassi, Andre.................300
2) Djokovic, Novak...........242...+1
3) Sampras, Pete................229...-1
4) Federer, Roger.............191
5) Nadal, Rafael................184
6) Murray, Andy................169...+1
7) Roddick, Andy.................158...-1
8) Courier, Jim....................140
9) Ferrer, David................110
....Berdych, Tomas............110...new

Dropped out of top 10:

Rios, Marcelo.................93

Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the last event.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 10 players at Monte Carlo since 1990. Updated for 2014.

Wawrinka won his first TMS event, beating compatriot Federer who lost in the principality for the fourth time.

1) Nadal, Rafael................400
2) Muster, Tomas................219
3) Djokovic, Novak...........186
4) Ferrero, Juan Carlos....168
5) Federer, Roger.............164...+4
6) Moya, Carlos...................163...-1
7) Coria, Guillermo..............154...-1
....Bruguera, Sergi...............154...-1
9) Pioline, Cedric.................149...-1
10) Ferrer, David..............115...new

Dropped out of top 10:

Rios, Marcelo.................114

Players listed in bold are active
Players in red have added to their total in the last tournament.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 10 players at Rome since 1990. Updated for 2014.

Djokovic continues an impressive 2014 spring and wins in Rome for the third time.
Semifinalist Ferrer is a new entry.

1) Nadal, Rafael................350
2) Djokovic, Novak..........232
3) Muster, Tomas................171
4) Federer, Roger.............161
5) Kuerten, Gustavo...........142
6) Courier, Jim....................138
7) Corretja, Alex.................113
8) Costa, Albert..................110
.....Ferrer, David................110...new
10) Ivanisevic, Goran.........108...-1

Dropped out of top 10:

Rios, Marcelo.................97

Players listed in bold are active
Players in red have added to their total in the last event.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
Top 10 players at Hamburg (1990-2008) / Madrid (2009-) since 1990. Updated for 2014.

Rafa won Hamburg/Madrid clay TMS for the fourth time.
Semifinalist Ferrer enters the top 10.

1) Federer, Roger.............300
2) Nadal, Rafael...............270
3) Medvedev, Andrei..........157
4) Stich, Michael.................136
5) Djokovic, Novak..........118
6) Rios, Marcelo.................101
7) Coria, Guillermo...........97
8) Kuerten, Gustavo...........93
.....Robredo, Tommy..........93
10) Ferrer, David...............92...new

Dropped out of top 10:

Corretja, Alex...............91
Costa, Albert................91


Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournament played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 20 players at Roland Garros since 1990. Updated for 2014.

Nadal won a record ninth French Open title.


1) Nadal, Rafael...............900
2) Federer, Roger............425
3) Kuerten, Gustavo..........365
4) Courier, Jim....................355
5) Agassi, Andre.................335
6) Djokovic, Novak...........330...+1
7) Bruguera, Sergi..............315...-1
8) Ferrero, Juan Carlos....274
9) Corretja, Alex.................250
10) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny......227

11) Costa, Albert.................217
12) Muster, Tomas...............207
13) Moya, Carlos.................205
......Ferrer, David...............205...+1
15) Medvedev, Andrei..........185
16) Röderling, Robin..........172
17) Murray, Andy..............162
18) Gaudio, Gaston............159
19) Davydenko, Nikolay....154
20) Stich, Michael.................152

Dropped ot of top 20:

Chang, Michael .............142



Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournament played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 20 players at Wimbledon since 1990. Updated for 2014..

Novak Djokovic won his first Slam in ages and makes a big jump.

1) Sampras, Pete................700
....Federer, Roger.............700
3) Nadal, Rafael................425
4) Djokovic, Novak..........405...+1
5) Ivanisevic, Goran............400...-1
5) Agassi, Andre.................330...-1
.....Murray, Andy...............330...-1
8) Becker, Boris..................325
9) Roddick, Andy.................295
10) Hewitt, Lleyton..........235

11) Henman, Tim................230
.......Rafter, Patrick..............230
13) Stich, Michael................217
14) Edberg, Stefan..............215
15) Krajicek, Richard...........207
16) Philippoussis, Mark.......175
17) Martin, Todd..................170
18) Berdych, Thomas........165
19) Pioline, Cedric...............160
20) Berdych, Tomas...........152...new

Dropped out of top 10:

Grosjean, Sebastian......144

Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournamet played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 10 players at Montreal/Toronto since 1990. Updated for 2014.

Tsonga won, but it´s not enough for a top 10 place (94).
Federer almost overtakes Agassi.

1) Agassi, Andre.................229
2) Federer, Roger.............227...+2
3) Djokovic, Novak...........206...-1
.....Nadal, Rafael...............206...-1
5) Roddick, Andy..................166
6) Andy Murray.................163
7) Rafter, Patrick.................121
8) Ferreira, Wayne..............115
9) Gasquet, Richard..........108...+1
10) Chang, Michael.............105...-1


Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournamet played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:21 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 10 players at Cincinnati since 1990. Updated for 2014.

Federer won for the sixth time.

1) Federer, Roger.............300
2) Sampras, Pete................242
3) Chang, Michael...............214
4) Agassi, Andre.................206
5) Roddick, Andy..................191
6) Djokovic, Novak...........164
7) Murray, Andy................158
8) Edberg, Stefan...............154
9) Hewitt, Lleyton............148
10) Rafter, Patrick..............134

Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournament played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:21 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 20 players at the US Open since 1990. Updated for 2014.

Marin Cilic, wait.. what?? Yes really, Marin Cilic won his first Grand Slam at the US Open.
Both he and quarterfinalist Stan Wawrinka are new entries.

1) Sampras, Pete................570
.....Federer, Roger.............570
3) Agassi, Andre.................480
4) Djokovic, Novak..........425
5) Nadal, Rafael...............385
6) Hewitt, Lleyton............330
.....Murray, Andy................280
8) Roddick, Andy.................270...-1
9) Edberg, Stefan...............239
10) Chang, Michael.............225

11) Rafter, Patrick................222
12) Martin, Todd...................197
13) Courier, Jim....................175
......Safin, Marat....................175
15) Del Potro, Juan Martin.164
......Cilic, Marin.....................164...new
17) Ferrer, David................152...-1
18) Pioline, Cedric.................151...-1
19) Wawrinka, Stanislas.....140...new
20) Youzhny, Mikhail...........136...-2


Dropped out of top 20:

Kafelnikov, Yevgeny........134
Davydenko, Nikolay......134

Pleyers in bold are active
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournament played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:21 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 10 players at Shanghai/Madrid/Essen/Stockholm since 1990. Updated through 2014.

Federer won in Shanghai for the first time!


1) Becker, Boris...................219
2) Federer, Roger.............214...+1
3) Murray, Andy................199...-1
4) Djokovic, Novak...........188
5) Ivanisevic, Goran............156
6) Nadal, Rafael................153
7) Sampras, Pete................145
8) Nalbandian, David..........143
9) Krajicek, Richard.............139
10) Agassi, Andre...............125


Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournament played.

Purple Rainbow 10-25-2006 02:21 PM

Re: Purple Rainbows TMS Era Ranking List!
 
The top 10 players at Paris since 1990. Updated through 2014.

Djokovic defended his title.

1) Safin, Marat............. ......204
2) Sampras, Pete...............194
3) Djokovic, Novak...........176...+1
4) Becker, Boris..................151...-1
5) Ferrer, David................133...+1
6) Federer, Roger.............130...-1
.....Tomas Berdych.............130...+2
8) Kafelnikov, Yevgeny.......128...-2
9) Agassi, Andre..................124...-1
10) Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried....116...new


Dropped out of top 10:

10) Davydenko, Nikolay...110

Players listed in bold are active.
Players in red have added to their total in the most recent tournament played.


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