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J99 07-14-2013 01:44 AM

Main Draw
 
It took almost 5 hours too long, but here it is finally, the worst draw of the season:

www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/6718/mds.pdf

VamosHoracio 07-14-2013 01:57 AM

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Nice draw for Arguellito.

Guys, give Bogota a chance. It is a first-year tournament with some good players in a busy week where all the top players always play Hamburg or rest. It will grow in years to come.

As for the crappiness of Newport every year, that I have no idea ( or solution).

J99 07-14-2013 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by VamosHoracio (Post 16782697)
Nice draw for Arguellito.

Guys, give Bogota a chance. It is a first-year tournament with some good players in a busy week where all the top players always play Hamburg or rest. It will grow in years to come.

As for the crappiness of Newport every year, that I have no idea ( or solution).

It might not grow or get better, not all tourney's do, this is the worst possible start for a new tourney, new tourney's usually start off well, not poorly, Johannesburg didn't last very long and it had better draws than this.

J99 07-14-2013 02:07 AM

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O. M. G. I can really see Vasek making it to the semis if he plays good tennis and his 1st serves go in. If that happens, don't see much problems until Anderson. Vasek has one of the best draws of everyone, please don't blow this chance!
Not quite, Michal has been playing pretty well lately and Vashy just lost to Karlovic, plus probably Bedene in R2, I don't think his draw his nearly as good as you are making out.

juddy96 07-14-2013 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by J99 (Post 16782817)
Not quite, Michal has been playing pretty well lately and Vashy just lost to Karlovic, plus probably Bedene in R2, I don't think his draw his nearly as good as you are making out.

Yes, I know Vasek hasn't been in great form, but I think if he plays 80% of his best tennis he could make the semis.

Sauletekis 07-14-2013 03:32 AM

Re: Main Draw
 
This is a joke and no, I won't give any chance to Bogota. That Arguello and Struvay vs. Qualifier match, in a hardcourt, giving 20 pts to the winner, is just making joke of the whole ATP points system.

VamosHoracio 07-14-2013 03:40 AM

Re: Main Draw
 
Maybe I will admit I feel bias because I am from South America, however, tournament in Johannesburg is in a region where tennis isn't huge. In South America, especially Colombia, tennis is big - and really growing. They have 2 really good singles players and a great doubles pair. In South Africa, the tennis wasn't growing and neither did the tournament, so this time next year, we'll see with Bogota.

J99 07-14-2013 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sauletekis (Post 16783457)
This is a joke and no, I won't give any chance to Bogota. That Arguello and Struvay vs. Qualifier match, in a hardcourt, giving 20 pts to the winner, is just making joke of the whole ATP points system.

Can't really talk about Struvay as he's a WC, better than some others that's for sure, the qualy will probably win it, anyhow, similar things have happened before, the draw would have been better if so many players didn't pull out, I wonder why they did, qualy draw would have been better too obv.

Capriati Rules 07-14-2013 08:13 PM

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This tournament will never be successful if it remains where it is on the calendar...Hate to say it but the bulk of the guys wanting to play on hard court this year are Americans and they'll never come down here because of the whole LA controversy now and the majority of the big name South Americans are in Hamburg. You'd think they would have at least gotten DelPo or Raonic though. You won't even get lower ranked Americans though with Binghampton Challenger played the same week. :wavey: Good Luck Bogota enjoy your two year run.

outrider 07-14-2013 08:23 PM

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What is the proble here? Few lower ranked players have a great opportunity to make at least an ATP Main Draw or reaching the second round of an ATP 250 event like Duckworth. I really look forward to this open draw although Anderson, Tipsarevic or Giraldo/Falla should take the title here.

juddy96 07-14-2013 08:28 PM

Re: Main Draw
 
Doesn't Bogota have some wacky altitude as well? Maybe this is another reason why guys like Raonic or Delpo don't come here?

J99 07-14-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Capriati Rules (Post 16796953)
This tournament will never be successful if it remains where it is on the calendar...Hate to say it but the bulk of the guys wanting to play on hard court this year are Americans and they'll never come down here because of the whole LA controversy now and the majority of the big name South Americans are in Hamburg. You'd think they would have at least gotten DelPo or Raonic though. You won't even get lower ranked Americans though with Binghampton Challenger played the same week. :wavey: Good Luck Bogota enjoy your two year run.

There were some Americans who pulled out here who aren't playing Binghamton.

J99 07-15-2013 05:40 AM

Re: Main Draw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VamosHoracio (Post 16783513)
Maybe I will admit I feel bias because I am from South America, however, tournament in Johannesburg is in a region where tennis isn't huge. In South America, especially Colombia, tennis is big - and really growing. They have 2 really good singles players and a great doubles pair. In South Africa, the tennis wasn't growing and neither did the tournament, so this time next year, we'll see with Bogota.

Actually I think it was because of Anderson.

Capriati Rules 07-15-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by J99 (Post 16799305)
There were some Americans who pulled out here who aren't playing Binghamton.

They would have never played Binghamton now anyways with their ranking since they are either DE to us open or guaranteed wcs...see point about boycotting due to LA as well.

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J99 07-15-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Capriati Rules (Post 16810953)
They would have never played Binghamton now anyways with their ranking since they are either DE to us open or guaranteed wcs...see point about boycotting due to LA as well.

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Can't boycott LA anymore cause it doesn't exist, and why boycott it anyway?


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