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Mark Lenders 04-22-2013 05:02 PM

The reality is that del Potro is easily the fourth best tennis player in the world
 
It's a fact. He might not have been able to hang with the current top 4 post surgery, but he's still comfortably a better player than anyone else. He's also 5-5 in his last 10 matches against said top 4 so the signs are that the gap is closing, not increasing.

Surgery/injuries have affected his relative standing in the game compared to the current top 4, but that's all. He's still better than everyone else. This has been the case ever since his return.

Discuss.


Wing Man Frank 04-22-2013 05:11 PM

Re: The reality is than del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
To steal from another poster:

I don't understand how anybody can think DP the 5th best player at the moment.

Points from slams and WTF: Ferrer 2920, DP 1390
Points from Masters: Ferrer 2160, DP 1520
Points from small tournaments: Ferrer 1890, DP 1840

Total points: Ferrer 6970, DP 4750

Del Potro is a vulture.

This thread should be merged. Do your crying in the thread with facts.

Moozza 04-22-2013 05:14 PM

Re: The reality is than del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
No Ferrer is. End of discussion.

GrimbleGromble 04-22-2013 05:15 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
You should give more poll options, it's too biased.

Try adding to the poll "He's the 7th best player in the world", which is the only correct option btw.

niff 04-22-2013 05:15 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
:zzz:

janko05 04-22-2013 05:23 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
voted Ferrer just to see the poll results :D

Matthew2408 04-22-2013 05:27 PM

Re: The reality is than del Potro is the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
Rest Of Top 8's Record In Slams And Masters Over Last 12 Months-

2012 French Open-
Ferrer Semi Final
Berdych Round of 16
Del Potro Quarter Final
Tsonga Quarter Final

2012 Wimbledon-
Ferrer Quarter Final
Berdych Round 1
Del Potro Round of 16
Tsonga Semi Final

2012 US Open-
Ferrer Semi Final
Berdych Semi Final
Del Potro Quarter Final
Tsonga Round 2

2013 Aussie Open-
Ferrer Semi Final
Berdych Quarter Final
Del Potro Round of 32
Tsonga Quarter Final

2012 Madrid Masters-
Ferrer Quarter Final
Berdych Finalist
Del Potro Semi Final
Tsonga Round of 16

2012 Rome Masters-
Ferrer Semi Final
Berdych Quarter Final
Del Potro Round of 16
Tsonga Quarter Final

2012 Canada Masters-
Ferrer DNP
Berdych Round of 16
Del Potro Round 2
Tsonga Round 2

2012 Cincinnati Masters-
Ferrer Round 2
Berdych Round of 16
Del Potro Semi Final
Tsonga DNP

2012 Shanghai Masters-
Ferrer DNP
Berdych Semi Final
Del Potro DNP
Tsonga Quarter Final

2012 Paris Masters-
Ferrer- Champion
Berdych Quarter Final
Del Potro Round of 16
Tsonga Quarter Final

2012 Tour Finals-
Ferrer 3rd Place Group
Berdych 3rd Place Group
Del Potro Semi Finals
Tsonga 4th Place Group

2013 Indian Wells-
Ferrer Round 2
Berdych Semi FInals
Del Potro Finalist
Tsonga Quarter Final

2013 Miami Masters-
Ferrer Finalist
Berdych Quarter Final
Del Potro Round 2
Tsonga Round of 16

2013 Monte Carlo-
Ferrer DNP
Berdych Round of 16
Del Potro Round of 16
Tsonga Semi Finals


Amount of Times Performed The Best of Ferrer, Berdych, Del Potro and Tsonga-
Ferrer 6
Berdych 4
Del Potro 3
Tsonga 2

To be the 5th best player in the world you must be the most consistent over the year and this proves that your point of Ferrer only being in the top 5 because of "Vulturing" is entirely wrong. As over the last year Ferrer has performed the best when it really mattered.

Mark Lenders 04-22-2013 05:35 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by janko05 (Post 14810202)
voted Ferrer just to see the poll results :D

How about voting honestly? This is the real issue here: people who vote Ferrer either follow the rankigns blindly or just do it as a wind-up. Any unbiased observer can easily conclude that there are only four people in the world whose ability to play tennis exceeds Del Potro at this point in time and none of them has wings.

Wing Man Frank 04-22-2013 05:35 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
Are you religious Lenders?

Andi-M 04-22-2013 05:35 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
I think I would put DelPotro ahead of ferrer, tsonga and berdych. Because he has the game and temprament to win a slam and beat top 4. Delpo when on is a joy to watch, in Indian wells he showed what he can do and i believe he is geniune contender.

The other 3 you can argue for which is better or worse depending on your own individual criteria.
1. consistency = ferrer
2. beating federer = berdych
3. pushing top 4 guys but still losing = tsonga

Certinfy 04-22-2013 05:37 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
The rankings say Nadal.

Fuck off Lenders.

A_Skywalker 04-22-2013 05:40 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
If he is so good he should first rank before Ferrer, rankings dont lie, Ferrer has better result with limited game.

nellis_lv 04-22-2013 05:45 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
I agree.

mark73 04-22-2013 05:46 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andi-M (Post 14810554)
I think I would put DelPotro ahead of ferrer, tsonga and berdych. Because he has the game and temprament to win a slam and beat top 4. Delpo when on is a joy to watch, in Indian wells he showed what he can do and i believe he is geniune contender.

The other 3 you can argue for which is better or worse depending on your own individual criteria.
1. consistency = ferrer
2. beating federer = berdych
3. pushing top 4 guys but still losing = tsonga

you are right about criteria but that applies to Delpotro too. After all he is not the most consistent.

Federer in 2 04-22-2013 05:49 PM

Re: The reality is that del Potro is easily the fifth best tennis player in the world
 


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