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Ramsay 02-01-2013 04:18 PM

Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 


Europe Group II 1st Round
Date: 01 Feb - 03 Feb 2013
Venue: CIF, Lisboa, Portugal
Start times:
Day 1: 1300 hrs (1300 hrs GMT) tbc
Day 2: 1500 hrs (1500 hrs GMT) tbc
Day 3: 1200 hrs (1200 hrs GMT) tbc
Surface: Clay


João Sousa already won against Didavi by 6-1 6-3 6-0. Relaxed tie for Portugal, which is clearly the favourite here.

Withou Frederico Gil and Gastão Elias, even Rui Machado isn't the option for play. Pedro Sousa is facing Klegou and, after a nervous start, leads by 4-6 6-1 6-4 4-1.

Ramsay 02-01-2013 04:29 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
Pedro Sousa does it. 4-6 6-1 6-4 6-2.

Portugal 2-0 in the tie, we will probably close this out already tomorrow.

madmax 02-01-2013 05:23 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
very predictably, looks like Portugal - Lithuania in the second round here:drive:

156mphserve 02-01-2013 07:22 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
wait what? Portugal is in group 2?

And how did Benin get into group 2?:lol:

out_here_grindin 02-01-2013 07:50 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
I taught at a summer tennis camp with Loic Didavi this summer. Great achievement for them to even get this far. Klegou played at Texas A&M

andy_MUGray 02-01-2013 08:44 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
do portugal team allways play davis cup ties in the same arena and on the same courts ?

Ramsay 02-01-2013 08:53 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madmax (Post 13263129)
very predictably, looks like Portugal - Lithuania in the second round here:drive:

Yeah, and the match will be in Portugal, in clay. Probably with Gil back, Machado in better conditions and maybe Gastão Elias. Much more interesting tie, but Portugal is the favourite.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 156mphserve (Post 13265809)
wait what? Portugal is in group 2?

And how did Benin get into group 2?:lol:

Sadly, yes. Our players weren't at their best shape last year and we played always away in hard courts. But we're a level up than all the other teams of Group II.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_MUGray (Post 13267369)
do portugal team allways play davis cup ties in the same arena and on the same courts ?

No, this CIF in Lisbon wasn't used on last 20 years. For the most important ties we generally use the Centralito, in Estoril.

andy_MUGray 02-01-2013 09:09 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
but i dont understand what is wrong with draw in 2nd group, its not normal. for example, if Cyprus want to win 3 ties this year, they should win ALL OF THEM PLAYING AWAY! with no games at home. and now Bosnia&Herzogovina - they would play them all at home :lol: :lol: its not normal draw system.

andy_MUGray 02-01-2013 09:16 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
the same with Latvia, who should play all 3 ties Away :lol: and Ireland, who would play all 3 ties at home :lol: this draw system is fucking joke

156mphserve 02-01-2013 11:18 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_MUGray (Post 13268025)
but i dont understand what is wrong with draw in 2nd group, its not normal. for example, if Cyprus want to win 3 ties this year, they should win ALL OF THEM PLAYING AWAY! with no games at home. and now Bosnia&Herzogovina - they would play them all at home :lol: :lol: its not normal draw system.

It makes total sense, if you played a team before in the history of davis cup you play them in the opposite place that you played them last time. If you haven't played them before it's random.

This isn't like football where you play a home and away and go by highest aggerate. Or hockey/basketball/baseball where you play a best of 7 where one team gets 4 home, one gets 3 home.

In Davis Cup There's only 1 tie and someone has to be at home. You can't just play the higher seed at home everytime then the lower seeds will never get revenue from home ties and improve from this revenue. How do you suggest they do it?

156mphserve 02-01-2013 11:24 PM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
also what you've said is all wrong. Cyprus would be home to Portugal, . Latvia would be home to Bulgaria, Estonic, and Finland. Ireland would be on the road to Belarus, Bulgaria, or Tunisia

nolesfan2011 02-02-2013 02:01 AM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
Yea I know him too, really nice guy, wish he had won

Quote:

Originally Posted by out_here_grindin (Post 13266329)
I taught at a summer tennis camp with Loic Didavi this summer. Great achievement for them to even get this far. Klegou played at Texas A&M


andy_MUGray 02-02-2013 10:45 AM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 156mphserve (Post 13269969)
also what you've said is all wrong. Cyprus would be home to Portugal, . Latvia would be home to Bulgaria, Estonic, and Finland. Ireland would be on the road to Belarus, Bulgaria, or Tunisia

i know about H2H factor, but its possible that 1 team would play ALL 3 TIES AT HOME! for example Portugal. Now they beat Benin at home, later they will play against Lithuania, and again it will be in Portugal. in 3rd round they could also get a team, with which they last DC tie played AWAY, so now it would be in Portugal :) so we would have 3 ties at Portugal this year. Its not normal system. Its possible. We just can wait and on september we would see if this prospect would be possible :)

andy_MUGray 02-02-2013 10:53 AM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
i checked older years and bingo :lol: in 2012 last year this happened with Poland. THEY PLAYED ALL 3 TIES AT HOME !! come on, this fucking bullshit.
http://www.daviscup.com/en/results/g...pe-africa.aspx
i didnt check older ties, i just needed 1 exmple that this system is fucking bullshit. :) 1 team has SO BIG ADVANTAGE. i think we all understand how important is to play at home courts, you can choose more suitable surface etc. this system in 3rd group is piece of shit.

andy_MUGray 02-02-2013 10:56 AM

Re: Europe/Africa Group II 1st Round: Benin at Portugal (February 1-3, 2013)
 
in 2011 great britain and Denmark, team which promoted to higher group, played all 3 ties at home :lol: :lol: its fucking joke :lol:


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