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tommyg6 01-22-2013 06:53 AM

Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Discuss.

Fast facts

1. Both players reached Wimbledon finals at least 3 times.
2. Both players are known for their huge huge serves
3. Both guys lead the ATP in ace counts in seperate seasons.
4. Both player's best tournament was Wimbledon.
5. Both guys had marathon matches at Wimbledon finals
6. Both guys had an arch nemesis at Wimbledon, Roddick had Federer, Goran had Sampras.
7. Both guys won a single Slam.
8. Both guys won mostly on faster surfaces
9. A-Rod reached the world no.1 ranking; Goran reached the world no.2 ranking.
10. A-Rod won 32 titles; Goran won 22 titles
11. Both players played each other just once, Goran won that encounter at 2001 Wimbledon
12. Both players have rivals they couldn't beat over their careers.

So what do you think?

samanosuke 01-22-2013 07:10 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Roddick obviously achieved more and had better consistency but Goran was more talented player, just enormous headcase. Don't agree with your fact #8 . Goran was more than useful player on clay. Won multiple titles, reached Masters 1000 final, few times was in semis, beat Muster on clay and other great clay courters

Absolute Anthropoid 01-22-2013 07:13 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
I think Randy Odd Dick edges this.

HKz 01-22-2013 07:14 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Think there was an exact thread for this if I'm not mistaken..

GSMnadal 01-22-2013 07:29 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Going with my man Andy Roddick here

kidbourbon 01-22-2013 07:37 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Talent-wise this isn't even a close call. It's Ivanisevic.

kidbourbon 01-22-2013 07:40 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
One can just look at their service motions and that tells the tale. Ivanisevic has just a smooth, effortless motion. Way more fluid than Roddick. He's definitely the better athlete.

Also, Ivanisevic was an excellent soccer player.

GSMnadal 01-22-2013 07:46 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kidbourbon (Post 12992961)
One can just look at their service motions and that tells the tale. Ivanisevic has just a smooth, effortless motion. Way more fluid than Roddick. He's definitely the better athlete.

Also, Ivanisevic was an excellent soccer player.

But Andy is fantastic at table tennis and badminton

kidbourbon 01-22-2013 07:54 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GSMnadal (Post 12993017)
But Andy is fantastic at table tennis and badminton

Well then that changes everything.

Caesar1844 01-22-2013 07:57 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Ivanisevic was even more serve-and-forehand than Roddick. His volleys were okay as well, but basically he was a crappy version of Becker who knew that the best way to succeed was to make his already-awkward-to-play lefty serve as unplayable as possible. He was the original servebot.

Ivanisevic has probably the best serve in history but Roddick was far more multi-dimensional, so I rate him as more talented.

Max Power 01-22-2013 08:36 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Ivanisevic was perhaps more talented, but Roddick was better.

petar_pan 01-22-2013 08:44 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kidbourbon (Post 12992921)
Talent-wise this isn't even a close call. It's Ivanisevic.

This.

Paylu2007 01-22-2013 09:20 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
ivanisevic was hotter.

Mountaindewslave 01-22-2013 09:52 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Goran at some pretty hot streak moments BUT the problem is they were so long and far in between... I think we can all agree that Roddick overall had more weapons and certainly a much better brain for pressure moments and determining what tactics to use against differing opponents. obviously towards the end of his career for some baffling reason Andy just went to his slice in every worrisome situation.

Ivanesivic was not more talented than Andy Roddick, even Goran's best weapon, the serve, is not necessarily better than ROddick's. Roddick better at net, better groundstrokes, etc. certainly better mindset. Goran had a great game for Wimbledon but not as much elsewhere hence all the finals. if you asked who was more deserving of a Wimbledon title, I would say Roddick, and unlike Goran he didn't even get one! I gurantee if Roddick had played in the 90s he would have snagged a Wimbledon title. Federer is just something unparrelled to have on the opposite side of the court in that sort of occasion

shiaben 01-22-2013 10:04 AM

Re: Who's the more talented player? Andy Roddick vs Goran Ivanisevic?
 
Goran was the better player. He defeated some of his top rivals. On the other hand when has Roddick defeated the primary rival early in his career at the slams in Federer? Never. Kept losing to him over and over and over again.


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