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Alex999 12-04-2012 08:59 PM

Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
very interesting. I personally prefer both Fed and Nole not showing any emotions and staying cool, winning or losing. Both young Nole and young Fed used to have tantrums, but all of that is gone long time ago. What do you guys think? Emotions or not?:)

anyway, here is the article. source tennis.com

John McEnroe tells the Daily Telegraph that he’d like to see Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic release their emotions more while playing.

“I think these guys handle themselves unbelievably well,” McEnroe said. “I don’t know how they have this incredible control. I’m not going to sit here and pretend I had the same control they did, and to some degree I wish they’d let it out a bit more. They’ll probably have ulcers when they’re 35. I don’t know how they can shrug it off. Maybe they look at their bank balances at the end of the year and that helps.”

McEnroe added that he now gets along better with his former archrival, Ivan Lendl, who currently coaches Andy Murray.

“It was like when Rocky fought Ivan Drago in Rocky IV – the American versus the machine; to me it felt a bit like that,” McEnroe said. “We definitely saw, and see, things very differently. We can sort of laugh about it now, I think. It’s not the same as then, when we did want to wring each other’s neck.

“I don’t think Ivan’s any different now than he was then. The good thing is that I was good enough not to have to listen to his jokes, whereas other guys felt they had to pay their respects, in a way; there’s a hierarchy in any sport. I’d think, Thank God I don’t have to listen to this! But he still does it now. It’s amazing.”

emotion 12-04-2012 09:02 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
I totally and completely agree. Thank Jesus someone is saying that. The emotional aspect of tennis has been so lacking in favor of the smooth, robotic PR machine.

samanosuke 12-04-2012 09:06 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Fed shows emotions and tells to Nole's parents to " Shut up " and becomes Serbian enemy number 1 . If I am Fed i wouldn't risk that much next time

Johnny Groove 12-04-2012 09:11 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Fed is definitely more pissy now than in 04-07 for example.

More often you will hear "Oi!" or grunts of disgust at another shanked backhand, or a yell here or there. And when is "calm", you can even sense on his face that he is fuming underneath.

Djokovic, even in 2011-2012, I am still seeing anger, points of disgust, yelling after missed shots, destroying a bench at the RG final, etc.

Does McEnroe want them to do what he did where every call is a cinema trying to influence the linesperson to change his call? Does Mac want them to berate themselves like Murray? Borg's book, Bjorn says when he was playing, he was calm outer, but he was absolutely destroying things inside.

Nole fan 12-04-2012 09:29 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Groove (Post 12593385)
Fed is definitely more pissy now than in 04-07 for example.

More often you will hear "Oi!" or grunts of disgust at another shanked backhand, or a yell here or there. And when is "calm", you can even sense on his face that he is fuming underneath.

Djokovic, even in 2011-2012, I am still seeing anger, points of disgust, yelling after missed shots, destroying a bench at the RG final, etc.

Does McEnroe want them to do what he did where every call is a cinema trying to influence the linesperson to change his call? Does Mac want them to berate themselves like Murray? Borg's book, Bjorn says when he was playing, he was calm outer, but he was absolutely destroying things inside.

Exactly. It's not like Nole doesn't let his emotions out. :lol:
For me as a spectator I prefer to see their emotions, to feel empathy with them and what they're going through. That's one of the reasons I don't connect with Federer as a player. He has a poker face. I don't like that. He hardly ever releases any emotion, though lately as he gets older he seems to let it all out a bit more. That makes him human and more likeable I think. :)
I get what McEnroe says, but unfortunately controlling your emotions in today's game is vital to have some sort of success as it is such a mental and hard sport. I understand why Nole has controlled himself better, though he was more fun to watch back in 2007-08 when he would explode often or get angry, etc. You still can see a lot of it in some of his matches, though surprisingly not the crucial historic ones. He knows in these kind of matches he needs to show nothing to the rival and control his emotions better.

samanosuke 12-04-2012 09:29 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Groove (Post 12593385)
Fed is definitely more pissy now than in 04-07 for example.

in 04-07 period he had reasons for grunting just against Nadal, but between all those animal grunts from Nadal his would pass unspoted and how he was big attention whore he saw no point in doing that

GSMnadal 12-04-2012 09:32 PM

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Such an introvert guy, this Djokovic

Freak3yman84 12-04-2012 09:35 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Mugle/Frauderer = No negative attitude = Problem

Nole fan 12-04-2012 09:40 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GSMnadal (Post 12593421)


Such an introvert guy, this Djokovic

Exactly. I wonder why JMac felt the need to include Nole here instead of, let's say, Nadal? :scratch:

nole_no1 12-04-2012 09:42 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Nole is letting his emotions out more often than Federer and Nadal together so he shouldn't be mentioned

samanosuke 12-04-2012 09:42 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nole fan (Post 12593435)
Exactly. I wonder why JMac felt the need to include Nole here instead of, let's say, Nadal? :scratch:

because if Nadal voices up his emotions we would be watching tennis matches with tone off

Alex999 12-04-2012 09:55 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nole fan (Post 12593435)
Exactly. I wonder why JMac felt the need to include Nole here instead of, let's say, Nadal? :scratch:

how you choose to celebrate after you win is your own choice and that's the right moment to release all of your emotions etc.

however Nole shows very little or no emotions during a match nowadays. He is very composed.

GOATsol 12-04-2012 10:07 PM

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that's why fed told the rg crowd to shut up

saviopr 12-04-2012 10:40 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
Pathetic statement, in every way.

Firstly, Federer and Djokovic show their emotions on court, but not so much. What he wants? A new crazy McEnroe??

Secondly, it comes from one player worse than Federer and Djokovic (I believe Djoko will have more achievements than McEnroe at the end of his career). It's not intelligent to recomend a behavior for better players than him.

Finally, self control is one of the reasons why Fed and Djoko are so amazing players.

BauerAlmeida 12-04-2012 10:42 PM

Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out
 
I think they both let his emotions out honestly.

Not that much like Safin or Gaudio maybe, or Mac himfself, but they're not "robots" like some other players.


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