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Mark Lenders 06-08-2012 12:37 AM

What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
As everyone surely remembers, Tsonga had an excellent grasscourt season in 2011, losing the final in Queens and the semifinals at Wimbledon, playing at a very high level in both tournaments. He beat Nadal at Queens and Federer at Wimbledon, playing three sets of absolutely unplayable tennis to beat to Swiss at SW19.

I've said a few times that I thought Tsonga could win Wimbledon this year, which I did in hope more than anything else. But after seeing him play on clay, his least favored surface, pushing Djokovic to very limits, I really wonder whether he can make it come true.

His backhand has shown tremendous improvement, and to a lesser extent so has his return of serve. His serve, forehand and net game remain among the very best on tour as always. If he can hit as backhand as he has lately on grass, he will be very tough to beat, his game just suits the surface so well and he seems to be improving every year.

Queens will start this Monday and Jo will be #2 seed and then #5 seed at Wimbledon and the Olympics. What do you think he can do at these three events? Would you give him any chance to win Wimbledon/The Olympics?

Topspindoctor 06-08-2012 12:39 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
The Tsonga/Olderer Wimby match was overrated.

Tsonga served out of his mind. But he didn't do much more than that.

If Olderer's return game hadn't deteriorated to clown level and he wasn't such a choker, he'd have won in 3. Just look at him spanking Clownga every time after that meeting like a naughty kid.

156mphserve 06-08-2012 12:39 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
I expect he will win more matches than he loses

Certinfy 06-08-2012 12:42 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Queens: Should take the title, only person I can see beating him there is Murray and given his current situation and form I don't see it.

Wimbledon: At least a SF there, for his sake though I hope he gets a better draw and avoids someone like Djokovic in the QF, but either way he's capable of beating all of the top 4 in the QF and no doubt capable of going all the way.

Olympics - I think the 3 set format until the final will favour Jo, definitely the same expectations as for Wimbledon I think is fair and realistic.

Mark Lenders 06-08-2012 12:43 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspindoctor (Post 12075200)
The Tsonga/Olderer Wimby match was overrated.

Tsonga served out of his mind. But he didn't do much more than that.

If Olderer's return game hadn't deteriorated to clown level and he wasn't such a choker, he'd have won in 3. Just look at him spanking Clownga every time after that meeting like a naughty kid.

Did he break Federer three times just with his serve :eek:?

And what are you on about? Tsonga won their following match in Montreal and they played very tight matches in the indoor season although Federer won.

Certinfy 06-08-2012 12:44 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspindoctor (Post 12075200)
The Tsonga/Olderer Wimby match was overrated.

Tsonga served out of his mind. But he didn't do much more than that.

If Olderer's return game hadn't deteriorated to clown level and he wasn't such a choker, he'd have won in 3. Just look at him spanking Clownga every time after that meeting like a naughty kid.

Even as a Tsonga fan I think this is true on some levels.

As well as Tsonga served Federer did have half chances in those 3 last 3 sets and wasted quite a few with lame errors to say the least, especially in the 5th.

Tsonga only really got into one service game of Federer's each set too, besides that Federer was holding with absolute ease most of the time.

But in the end credit where credit is due and Tsonga did play 3 amazing sets.

Looner 06-08-2012 12:46 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
I don't think Tsonga will do as well as people seem to suggest he will on the grass. Might be wrong but I prefer to weather the red clay and then proceed to the hope of green clay.

Topspindoctor 06-08-2012 12:50 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Lenders (Post 12075204)
Did he break Federer three times just with his serve :eek:?

And what are you on about? Tsonga won their following match in Montreal and they played very tight matches in the indoor season although Federer won.

He broke because of errors, not because of his own play.

Say what you will but Clownga holding serve 20+ consecutively shouldn't be happening against Olderer.

Mark Lenders 06-08-2012 12:52 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Certinfy (Post 12075203)
Queens: Should take the title, only person I can see beating him there is Murray and given his current situation and form I don't see it.

Wimbledon: At least a SF there, for his sake though I hope he gets a better draw and avoids someone like Djokovic in the QF, but either way he's capable of beating all of the top 4 in the QF and no doubt capable of going all the way.

Olympics - I think the 3 set format until the final will favour Jo, definitely the same expectations as for Wimbledon I think is fair and realistic.

Agree with this. It will come down to whether he can bring his best tennis for 3/4 consecutive match at Wimbledon and Olympics, he'll be very tough to beat if he does.

Can't wait for Queens to start, there's few things I love more in tennis than watching Jo play on fast surfaces,namely on grass.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspindoctor (Post 12075214)
He broke because of errors, not because of his own play.

Say what you will but Clownga holding serve 20+ consecutively shouldn't be happening against Olderer.

Ah because he was serving so well he put Federer under extra pressure on his own service games.

And why not? He has one of the best serves on tour, probably the best in the current top 10 apart from Isner. When he's serving well, he's very tough to break, especially on grass courts.

BroTree123 06-08-2012 12:55 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Queens: QF

Wimbledon: 1R

Olympics: Withdraw.

Mark Lenders 06-08-2012 12:58 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BroTree123 (Post 12075221)
Queens: QF

Wimbledon: 1R

Olympics: Withdraw.

:rolleyes:

As a matter of curiosity, who exactly is going to beat him at those stages of these events?

Topspindoctor 06-08-2012 12:58 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Lenders (Post 12075225)
:rolleyes:

As a matter of curiosity, who exactly is going to beat him at those stages of these events?

:secret: You took the bait :secret:

Fireballer 06-08-2012 01:01 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Djoker broke his will he will suck

Slade 06-08-2012 01:05 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
I predict he will lose at least one match with match-points.

Say Hey Kid 06-08-2012 01:17 AM

Re: What are your expectations of Jo Wilfried Tsonga for the grass season?
 
Very well could be the queens favorite odds wise, so I wouldn't be stunned if he took that.

Wimbledon QF/SF. Don't see him winning Wimbledon personally. To win wimby outside the big4 you essentially have beat to 3 of them, and you can only hope one of them is Murray. Can Tsonga beat any one individually? Of course.

However, he will still be relatively big underdogs on grass vs the big3 so to beat 2-3 of them is very tall task that is extremely unlikely.

Olympics - bronze/silver at best. See above.


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