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mackerman 12-25-2011 12:05 AM

USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ycn-10742013

One of the feel good stories in tennis this year has been the rise of American player Alex Bogomolov Jr. to a ranking of No. 34 in the world. While everyone who knows Bogomolov couldn't be happier for the 28-year old, a strange thing happened as Bogomolov rose in the rankings. The Russians were actively recruiting him.

In the Cold War era this might mean he was being recruited as a spy or for his knowledge of clandestine military secrets. In 2011, it means he was being recuited to play Davis Cup tennis.

Born in Moscow, Bogomolov was uprooted to Mexico and then the United States by his father Alex Sr., who is a former Soviet national tennis coach. A talented junior player, Bogomolov never could make that "breakthrough" on the ATP Tour. He toiled in the 100s and 200s for years, getting financial and coaching help from the United States Tennis Association along the way.

After it was announced earlier this month that Bogomolov Jr. would play Davis Cup in 2011, the powers to be at the USTA got upset.

I spoke with Patrick McEnroe who is in charge of player development for the USTA at the Australian Open Wildcard Playoff held last week in Atlanta, and a couple weeks after Bogomolov made his decision, McEnroe had much to say.

"He has received quite a bit of support, it's an ITF decision and at the USTA we are exploring our options," he stated. I'll leave it at that."

After saying that, he kept going.

"I certainly believe… I have no issue with Alex personally. From the USTA standpoint, he was born in Russia, he has family there, he should repay the USTA. He's actually signed something saying that and we'll see what happens."

I followed up asking if the USTA is continuing to explore options and McEnroe said, "that is correct."

Bogomolov is not the first to make a decision like this and won't be the last. Most of the time it's done for financial reasons, other times it's because it's the only option to play. Numerous tennis players from Soviet block countries became "free agents" and went to the country that offered the best deal.

In women's basketball, there's Becky Hammon. Hammon is about as "All-American" s you can get. Blonde and born in South Dakota, after Hammon was overlooked for a spot at the U.S. Olympic trials in 2008, she became a naturalized Russian citizen and played in the Olympics representing Russia. "I'm absolutely 100 percent still an American. I love our country. I love what we stand for. This is an opportunity to fulfill my dream of playing in the Olympics," said Hammon.

This is an opportunity for Bogomolov to play Davis Cup, as at the age of 28, he isn't on The radar of U.S. Davis Cup Captain Jim Courier or the USTA. "All of us are friends with Bogomolov, and I can understand why he is doing it," added Courier.

Another player, Jesse Levine was born in Canada, but now plays as an American. He won the USTA's Australian Open Wildcard Playoff and says he has no plans to play Davis Cup for Canada if they were to come calling. He also says that he hasn't signed anything saying he wouldn't.

The fact is, Bogomolov will be taking the court for Russia when they play Austria in February. Whether the USTA is actually going after Bogomolov to repay thousands and thousands of dollars, or if they are looking to send a message to other Americans looking to do the same remains to be seen.

We'll all have to wait and see.

Certinfy 12-25-2011 12:06 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
He doesn't owe them shit.

tommyg6 12-25-2011 01:48 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
Does he even speak Russian?

Johnny Groove 12-25-2011 01:54 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
The USTA is full of fuckwits, this is well known. Bogo must have felt disrespected by PMac or someone else, seeing as they never picked him to play DC, and probably wouldn't next year, in favor of younger players like Young or Querrey, even though Bogo is ranked higher.

In response to this:

"I certainly believe… I have no issue with Alex personally. From the USTA standpoint, he was born in Russia, he has family there, he should repay the USTA. He's actually signed something saying that and we'll see what happens."

If this is true, then it is legally binding, but if not, then fuck the USTA. Bogo should be able to play for whatever team would be happy to have him.

tommyg6 12-25-2011 02:03 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Groove Dude (Post 11581188)
The USTA is full of fuckwits, this is well known. Bogo must have felt disrespected by PMac or someone else, seeing as they never picked him to play DC, and probably wouldn't next year, in favor of younger players like Young or Querrey, even though Bogo is ranked higher.

In response to this:

"I certainly believe… I have no issue with Alex personally. From the USTA standpoint, he was born in Russia, he has family there, he should repay the USTA. He's actually signed something saying that and we'll see what happens."

If this is true, then it is legally binding, but if not, then fuck the USTA. Bogo should be able to play for whatever team would be happy to have him.

Agreed. He wasn't gonna get a sniff with the US Davis Cup team anyways. I would've done the same as Alex.

mackerman 12-25-2011 03:33 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
The USTA is acting like they're directly responsible for his success. He hasn't received any help from the USTA either with coaching, finances or wild cards since the beginning of 2006. As recently as July 2010, the guy was $40,000 IN DEBT. Now they're going after him? Guess the USTA has to pay for that roof on Arthur Ashe somehow, even though it's the worst kept secret in tennis that they just sit on millions upon millions of dollars :rolleyes:

Also, we're talking about a six-figure lawsuit here considering that he did get free USTA coaching for several years and a couple of main draw wild cards into the US Open. It's disgusting that they're trying to clean this guy out over taking an opportunity (Davis Cup/Olympics) that they were never going to give him in the first place.

fast_clay 12-25-2011 04:52 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
stick it to the man bogey

MOhero 12-25-2011 08:15 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
CZE, RUS, YUG, IND, BiH, ARG...:

USTA Must Repay Us!!!!!

randajad86 12-25-2011 08:30 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyg6 (Post 11581185)
Does he even speak Russian?

Yes, he speaks fluently Russian.

Topspindoctor 12-25-2011 11:37 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
Bogomolov is a mug, why does USTA have their panties in a bunch about this? You'd think they were losing Olderer or something...

PiggyGotRoasted 12-25-2011 11:42 AM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
Why do the USTA even care? For most of his career he has represented the usa, would have they cared if he was still ranked 150 in the world? If he was $40k in debt, then it could be argued that the support the USTA gave him wasnt enough and isnt what is causing his success. What would they do if James Blake suddenly decided to represent Great Britain, would they care more or less?

Snowwy 12-25-2011 12:13 PM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Certinfy (Post 11581164)
He doesn't owe them shit.

Of course he does, the provided him training facilities and coaches for years. He cannoy just leave when he becomes an okay player when he has always had monetary support from the USA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groove Dude (Post 11581188)
T]If this is true, then it is legally binding, but if not, then fuck the USTA. Bogo should be able to play for whatever team would be happy to have him.

You really love to complain, did you even read the article? It does not say that he cannot play for Russia, it says he must repay the USA for their help throughout the recent years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyg6 (Post 11581192)
Agreed. He wasn't gonna get a sniff with the US Davis Cup team anyways. I would've done the same as Alex.

You can easily liken this story to a story in many corporate places where you cannot jump straight to a competitor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspindoctor (Post 11581428)
Bogomolov is a mug, why does USTA have their panties in a bunch about this? You'd think they were losing Olderer or something...

He is top 35, its a big deal, precedent setting really.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiggyGotRoasted (Post 11581432)
Why do the USTA even care? For most of his career he has represented the usa, would have they cared if he was still ranked 150 in the world? If he was $40k in debt, then it could be argued that the support the USTA gave him wasnt enough and isnt what is causing his success. What would they do if James Blake suddenly decided to represent Great Britain, would they care more or less?

How much would he have been in debt if he were given nothing? If a player is given $100k but spends $140k, does he owe nothing to the USA in that situation?

PiggyGotRoasted 12-25-2011 01:13 PM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowwy (Post 11581456)
Of course he does, the provided him training facilities and coaches for years. He cannoy just leave when he becomes an okay player when he has always had monetary support from the USA.



You really love to complain, did you even read the article? It does not say that he cannot play for Russia, it says he must repay the USA for their help throughout the recent years.



You can easily liken this story to a story in many corporate places where you cannot jump straight to a competitor.



He is top 35, its a big deal, precedent setting really.



How much would he have been in debt if he were given nothing? If a player is given $100k but spends $140k, does he owe nothing to the USA in that situation?

However put it this way, if he was representing the USA now.. what would the USA be gaining from him? They really obviously havnt given a shit about him at all for the last x years until now he has a decent ranking and changed country to represent in the davis cup. Should Sharapova also represent the USA in that case?

Nathaliia 12-25-2011 01:42 PM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
Did they repay Czechoslovakia bringing up Lendl or Navratilova? Did they repay Yugoslavia for bringing up Seles?

No? Then stfu USTA mugs, go bellyache elsewhere, not on my computer screen please.

And yes, Bogomolov has played under USA flag for several years, represented them long enough paying debts by that. I didn't see whining when Cecil Mamiit switched to Philippines.

TheBoiledEgg 12-25-2011 02:29 PM

Re: USTA: Bogomolov Must Repay Us, Exploring Options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathaliia (Post 11581530)
Did they repay Czechoslovakia bringing up Lendl or Navratilova? Did they repay Yugoslavia for bringing up Seles?

No? Then stfu USTA mugs, go bellyache elsewhere, not on my computer screen please.

And yes, Bogomolov has played under USA flag for several years, represented them long enough paying debts by that. I didn't see whining when Cecil Mamiit switched to Philippines.

This x1000


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