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kloppy 03-29-2010 06:09 AM

AFL - Rnd 2
 
Absolute certainties:

Brisbane -18.5 @ 1.91
Western Bulldogs -48.5 @ 1.91

Highly likely:

Brisbane -39.5 @ 3.30
Western Bulldogs -59.5 @ 2.56

Very much possible:

Brisbane -59.5 @ 6.80
Western Bulldogs -99.5 @ 13.00

Too far?:

Brisbane -99.5 @ 38.00

Bolelli Ultra 03-29-2010 07:39 AM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
lol, ridiculous. Id love to know your reasoning behind your very strong lean towards Brisbane. Carlton have played very well at the GABBA in the past two seasons and have won 3 of the past 5 against Brisbane.

Not to mention that the two teams met in a practice match a few weeks ago, a game Carlton won by 14 points. I know its just a practice match but Jamison destroyed Fevola, keeping him to 1 goal and Carlton were missing Jared Waite who will probably line up on Brown.

I think Brisbane will win a close one, they may very well cover the line but your other suggestions are ludicrous.

Bolar Bolabi 03-29-2010 08:51 AM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Brisbane rested half their starters for that practice match.

You can't take anything out of that practice match.

Yes, you may have won 3 out of the last 5 or whatever but you don't have a forward line.

Our running defenders and Maguire are going to have a field day.

Carlton will get flogged.

If Brisbane don't cover the spread against Carlton I'll never post on the Gamblers Lounge again.

Bolar Bolabi 03-29-2010 08:53 AM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Dogs will bounce back this week big time too.

Oh, UNLOAD ON MELBOURNE TO WIN THE WOODEN SPOON - the team would only be aiming at a couple of wins this year. Trust me, they want the spoon. They need good picks.

kloppy 03-29-2010 02:17 PM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolelli Ultra (Post 9761414)
lol, ridiculous. Id love to know your reasoning behind your very strong lean towards Brisbane.

Are you a Carlton supporter? If so your judgment may be a little clouded... citing that practice match as an indicator of anything only confirms this. The recent head-head results also reveal nothing... swap Fevola's jumper to a Brisbane one, remove Judd and Carlton lose ALL those games by 10 goals plus.

Look, Carlton have no forward line, an average backline and judd-less midfield. Brisbane have an exceptional forward line, a solid backline and a dangerous midfield. Brisbane are a side that uses momentum like no other... they run in waves, the ball appears almost drawn to their forward line and in the space of 20 minutes they have kicked 7-8 goals. This game will be a massacre.

kloppy 03-29-2010 02:23 PM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolar Bolabi (Post 9761460)
Oh, UNLOAD ON MELBOURNE TO WIN THE WOODEN SPOON - the team would only be aiming at a couple of wins this year. Trust me, they want the spoon. They need good picks.

Have to disagree with you there. Melbourne have some important players to return still... they'll improve, and I expect 6-8 wins from them this year. Richmond will be lucky to win a game this year though... Rnd 1 is their level... they won't improve... this is it. They will win the spoon with ease.

bad gambler 03-30-2010 03:57 AM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolar Bolabi (Post 9761458)
If Brisbane don't cover the spread against Carlton I'll never post on the Gamblers Lounge again.

:tape:

Early lean for me are the Swans getting 15.5 points against the Crows. Easily the most impressive team that lost over the weekend and if it weren't for a couple of free kicks given to the Saints golden boy they could have won that game

beeker 03-30-2010 11:04 AM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kloppy (Post 9761922)
Are you a Carlton supporter? If so your judgment may be a little clouded... citing that practice match as an indicator of anything only confirms this. The recent head-head results also reveal nothing... swap Fevola's jumper to a Brisbane one, remove Judd and Carlton lose ALL those games by 10 goals plus.

Look, Carlton have no forward line, an average backline and judd-less midfield. Brisbane have an exceptional forward line, a solid backline and a dangerous midfield. Brisbane are a side that uses momentum like no other... they run in waves, the ball appears almost drawn to their forward line and in the space of 20 minutes they have kicked 7-8 goals. This game will be a massacre.

:p I think you over-rate Brisbane a liitle, they have a couple of forwards capable of kiicking multile goals, same as last year, a decent (suspect under pressure)injury prone back line(injury prone team for that matter, especially ruckmen) and an slightly below average mid field i believe, especially with Charman out, Black looked poor first up and they turn the ball over all the time, as they did last year. They rely on there key forwards to win them matches which seems to comensate/hide their other deficiencies.
I think Carlton will be a better team without Fev (1 man forward lines dont work) and for that matter niether do 2 man forward line, Brisbane has proved that.

Bolar Bolabi 03-30-2010 12:08 PM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beeker (Post 9765076)
:p I think you over-rate Brisbane a liitle, they have a couple of forwards capable of kiicking multile goals, same as last year, a decent (suspect under pressure)injury prone back line(injury prone team for that matter, especially ruckmen) and an slightly below average mid field i believe, especially with Charman out, Black looked poor first up and they turn the ball over all the time, as they did last year. They rely on there key forwards to win them matches which seems to comensate/hide their other deficiencies.
I think Carlton will be a better team without Fev (1 man forward lines dont work) and for that matter niether do 2 man forward line, Brisbane has proved that.

Charman was out most the year last year and we relied on one ruckman and no backline and still made the semi's. The Charman argument is pointless.

Brisbane had Fevola and Brown have more than 12 shots on goal between them last week. You would think they would get at least 70% of those shots in goals. Throw in a goal kicking midfield in Sherman and a Staker who can kick straight and you have plenty of goals there to win you a match.

Bolar Bolabi 03-30-2010 12:11 PM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kloppy (Post 9761935)
Have to disagree with you there. Melbourne have some important players to return still... they'll improve, and I expect 6-8 wins from them this year. Richmond will be lucky to win a game this year though... Rnd 1 is their level... they won't improve... this is it. They will win the spoon with ease.

Trust me. They want the priority pick this year. They are only aiming at 2-3 wins at most. That is word from someone inside the club. Melbourne have the spoon.

Bolar Bolabi 03-30-2010 12:13 PM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
If Brisbane don't cover -18.5, I won't post on the Gamblers Lounge for 12 months starting 1st April 2010. You have my word. As a man who bases himself on pride and integrity, I will stick by that word.

bad gambler 03-30-2010 10:29 PM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolar Bolabi (Post 9765158)
If Brisbane don't cover -18.5, I won't post on the Gamblers Lounge for 12 months starting 1st April 2010. You have my word. As a man who bases himself on pride and integrity, I will stick by that word.

Noted

Bolar Bolabi 03-31-2010 03:16 AM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Brisbane -18.5 @ $1.91 - Good luck

beeker 03-31-2010 11:22 AM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolar Bolabi (Post 9765153)
Charman was out most the year last year and we relied on one ruckman and no backline and still made the semi's. The Charman argument is pointless.

Brisbane had Fevola and Brown have more than 12 shots on goal between them last week. You would think they would get at least 70% of those shots in goals. Throw in a goal kicking midfield in Sherman and a Staker who can kick straight and you have plenty of goals there to win you a match.

Charman argument is pointless IF Clark is playing like he was last year, he did nothing last week, not just in the ruck, he had little impact around the ground from what i saw, . Hence if thats the case the Charmen argument is VERY relavent. And i repeat the Brisbane mid field is less than average compared to the best going round, against the bottom side they will look good, but who expects WCE to make the 8 & they were playing at the gabba, but it is only Rd 1...

Bolar Bolabi 03-31-2010 11:55 AM

Re: AFL - Rnd 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beeker (Post 9770260)
Charman argument is pointless IF Clark is playing like he was last year, he did nothing last week, not just in the ruck, he had little impact around the ground from what i saw, . Hence if thats the case the Charmen argument is VERY relavent. And i repeat the Brisbane mid field is less than average compared to the best going round, against the bottom side they will look good, but who expects WCE to make the 8 & they were playing at the gabba, but it is only Rd 1...

Mate, Charman won't play more than 5 games this year. Clark was sick last week - they nearly took him out of the side. It's an irrelevant argument that you are bringing across. Leunberger is back and fit and he is the other ruckman and he played well last week.

If Charman was fully fit, Charman would be playing reserves. Charman won't be around much this year whilst Leunberger and Clark are fit and firing.

Brisbane's number 1 ruckman at the moment is Clark. Their number two is Leunberger. Their number 3 is Charman. Charman is at the bottom of the food chain. You have no idea what you're talking about. If you did, you wouldn't bring up this Charman argument whilst there's another ruckman in the side other than Clark.


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