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my0118 04-14-2008 01:38 PM

What seems to be the problem?
 
Well, I'm not sure if his currently tough time is just temporary, but at the moment, definitely there are some problems.
I remember when I became his fan. When I was watching his game, I thought I hadn't seen any player having such a decent talent like he has and I was so sure that nobody wouldn't be able to beat him if he just shows his talent. But the time wore on, getting to know about him, I realise again and again how much important mentality is after everytime he lost.
I'd like to discuss what makes him so down and what would be the main problem, with you Gasquet fans. We all know this season is such a letdown these days.
And plus what could bring him back? How do you feel about it? Let's talk.

This is a kind of whining thread. :lol:

lilibel13 04-14-2008 03:54 PM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
Well there is an article to discuss of his attitude by france info .fr
Meilleur joueur français à l’ATP et attendu comme un leader, le Biterrois a plus ou moins "séché" le quart de finale de la Coupe Davis, ce week-end. Une attitude qui commence à agacer jusque dans son camp.

Et si on ne pardonnait plus aux surdoués ? Virtuose précoce et surnommé "Mozart", longtemps superbe espoir du tennis français, Richard Gasquet a concentré un certain nombre de critiques ces dernières années. Au terme d’un week-end de Coupe Davis, où la France a chuté contre les USA en quart de finale, l’attitude du numéro un français pose la question de son leadership.

La première information de taille pendant ces trois jours aux Etats-Unis est tombé vendredi après-midi. Après Tsonga, Gasquet déclarait lui aussi forfait pour les simples, officiellement en raison d’une ampoule à la main accompagnée d’une tendinite au genou.
En conséquence, c’est Michael Llodra, Paul-Henri Mathieu et Arnaud Clément qui sont montés au filet tout au long du week-end, s’inclinant finalement, faute notamment d’un "vrai" leader.
Bâillements et SMS

Et d’avantage que son comportement "sportif", c’est maintenant une certaine désinvolture pendant les rencontres qui attire l’attention des médias. Richard Gasquet a été aperçu bâillant, impassible, plus concentré sur ses SMS que sur les performances de ses camarades. Se permettant jusqu’à une absence des gradins au moment de la balle de match remportée par les Français en double. Il n’a disputé que le cinquième match, sans enjeu.
Le commentaire de son entraîneur, Guy Forget (0'56")


Mais plutôt que d’évoquer uniquement d’un comportement de diva, il serait intéressant de s’interroger sur les vraies raisons contextuelles de cette phase de doutes que traverse, à seulement 21 ans, l’ex-huitième du classement ATP.
Sauf que pendant ces trois jours, un Paul-Henri Mathieu par exemple a certainement eu l’impression de se "faire un peu avoir", lâchant par exemple qu’il aurait préféré se faire dire "les choses en face", ajoutant "c’est comme si on m’envoyait à l’abattoir et que lui n’y allait pas".

Jozie 04-14-2008 05:36 PM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
I never got to watch the DC this weekend, however from all that I have read, it seemed to be another 'Damned if I do'... 'Damned if I don't' situation for Richard.I really feel for the guy, however I also salute PHM for taking on the challenge. A challenge, that in the past, Richard was happy to rise too. This time round, however, Richard was not up to the challenge. Richard has had a pretty poor season to date, some injuries, some bad losses, so why should he have been burdened with carrying the hopes of the French nation once again? I understand PHM was not too happy about the call for duty. Tsonga injured. Gilles Simon? (who in my opinion is also pretty talented), but not called on as a reserve this time.

Without a doubt, Richard's problem is too much pressure and expectation by all. Mentally, Richard knows his limitations, and therefore will not perform unless he knows he is able to achieve 100%. Clearly he does not want to disappoint his nation, fans, teammates, DC Captain, coach etc. So what now?

I get really mad that the press and even some fans build him up to be this "Wunderkind", and then, when he doesn't perform to their liking or expectation, he gets labelled 'overrated', 'underperformer', 'underachiever', etc etc.

In my opinion, Richard still needs to mature so much more. So, currently there are tennis players that are achieving great things at his age. I just wonder if the Djokovic's and Nadal's of the world will be able to maintain their winning ways at such a young age. Quite frankly, I don't really care. I know as a Gasquet fan, I can still look forward to some great tennis in the future.

Richard, when you are ready, in your own time ...... in the meantime, you still have my support and I am sure the support of many others.

Schu 04-14-2008 07:32 PM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
EXACTLY! Well said Jozie :worship: I'm with you on the support thing. Thanks for reminding us...

Getta 04-14-2008 09:36 PM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jozie (Post 6876879)
Richard, when you are ready, in your own time ...... in the meantime, you still have my support and I am sure the support of many others.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schu (Post 6877486)
EXACTLY! Well said Jozie :worship: I'm with you on the support thing. Thanks for reminding us...

Jozie, Ann. :hug:

Why do we need someone to remind us that Richie deserves our support whether he's winning or losing?

HoistDaColors 04-14-2008 10:55 PM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
I quite like Gasquet as a player. Over the weekend I have said some harsh things about him because I didn't understand why he decided to only the 5th rubber against blake and not against andy. After reading his interview, I understood some but still didn't completely comprehend his logic. Ultimately, he didn't have enough confidence against Roddick. Which was okay, since Davis Cup is a team sport and whoever feels the best at that moment should go out.

Here’s what I don’t understand: from his interview, he thinks that PHM had a chance against Roddick and that he could played the decisive 5th rubber against Blake, whom beat him convincingly in IW. Huh???? So Richie thinks he in worse shape than PHM but better than Llodra or Clement? He was willing to play a best-of-5 match, if it was necessary, against blake but not andy even though he beat andy and lost to blake the last times they met? And from PHM’s interview, it seemed like that Gasquet didn’t even talked to him about which match to play. How could he assumed that PHM was ready for Roddick? Gasquet told some journalists that he was going to play the 5th rubber only, before he even talked with his teammate? What? :confused::confused:And neither Forget, Richie nor PHM were saying stuff consistent with one another and so this is even harder to comprehend.

What I really want to know now is if PHM decided to not play, like if he said he was still demoralized by the loss to blake and didn’t want to go out, would Richie had step up? Because essentially, that was what PHM did for him. Richie didn’t feel confident against Roddick and so PHM went to the “slaughterhouse” for him. That’s the quality I wanted to see from Gasquet this weekend. I wanted him to say: “I am not confident right now against Roddick but if the team needs me, I am available for either of the matches.”

I didn’t want to see him having some attitude problems with Forget. I didn’t want to see him going behind his teammate’s back and pick and choose which match he wants to play. For him to go to the next level is for him to see an opponent which he doesn’t think he has a chance to win and say “I am going to go out there and just play my game. I am not going to carry a losing mentality.”

Anyhow, I blab way to much. What happened this weekend was a bit of a disappointment for me to see. I still like him as a player and still want to witness his success.

Allure 04-15-2008 12:13 AM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
I have been thinking about this as well and was about to make the same thread. I'm worried for him. When I first became a fan of Richard, I thought he was so talented and that he had a great future ahead of him. Fast forward three years later and he is moving backwards. No improvement at all. I think most of the problem comes from his attitude and weak mentality. He doesn't have confidence in himself when he plays against quality players. He even loses to players like Tursunov and Andreev! (Not that they are bad players but for top 10 player he should have no problem beating them) Also he is too stubborn and is not willing to fix parts of his game like not staying behind the baseline and not hitting moonball fhs. His coach and his parents have coddled him all his life and it's ruining him. He needs tough love.

Getta 04-15-2008 12:43 AM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
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Originally Posted by Allure (Post 6878934)
I have been thinking about this as well and was about to make the same thread. I'm worried for him. When I first became a fan of Richard, I thought he was so talented and that he had a great future ahead of him. Fast forward three years later and he is moving backwards. No improvement at all. I think most of the problem comes from his attitude and weak mentality. He doesn't have confidence in himself when he plays against quality players. He even loses to players like Tursunov and Andreev! (Not that they are bad players but for top 10 player he should have no problem beating them) Also he is too stubborn and is not willing to fix parts of his game like not staying behind the baseline and not hitting moonball fhs. His coach and his parents have coddled him all his life and it's ruining him. He needs tough love.

Precisely. I got the impression his parents never beat or pummeled him when he was a kid. :o

Allure 04-15-2008 01:42 AM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
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Originally Posted by Getta (Post 6879005)
Precisely. I got the impression his parents never beat or pummeled him when he was a kid. :o

:lol: I would have given him a good kick in the pants if I were them. I mean man up.

I wonder how many beatings Nadal got in order to shape him up to the player he is today. :unsure:

my0118 04-15-2008 02:00 AM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
That's why the only child is usually a spolit one. :o

Jozie 04-15-2008 05:41 AM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HoistDaColors (Post 6878646)
For him to go to the next level is for him to see an opponent which he doesn’t think he has a chance to win and say “I am going to go out there and just play my game. I am not going to carry a losing mentality.”

Yep, I agree. He seems to have decided he has already lost before he has even stepped on court. :unsure: Huge lack of maturity. Surely one day he has to rise above this.

emilie 04-17-2008 03:48 PM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
I think the reason of all this stuff is that Richard is unhappy in his life. According to his interview he gave to L'equipe, he feels sad that people do not like him.
He can become depressive if this situation continues. Maybe, it would be better for him to stop playing tennis as a professionnal.
You cannot compare him to other players as he was a gifted child. The media know him since he is 9 years old. I have read some books about gifted child and they are very often very fragile and different.
I do not know what is the best for him but i prefer him to stop playing tennis than to continue and suffer all his carrier like this.

Allure 04-17-2008 04:24 PM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emilie (Post 6893407)
I think the reason of all this stuff is that Richard is unhappy in his life. According to his interview he gave to L'equipe, he feels sad that people do not like him.
He can become depressive if this situation continues. Maybe, it would be better for him to stop playing tennis as a professionnal.
You cannot compare him to other players as he was a gifted child. The media know him since he is 9 years old. I have read some books about gifted child and they are very often very fragile and different.
I do not know what is the best for him but i prefer him to stop playing tennis than to continue and suffer all his carrier like this.

I didn't know he was unhappy with his life. What makes him think people do not like him? (People criticize him including spectators and posters but Nadal and Djokovic gets that too). I think he needs a therapist instead of just quitting tennis.

Vlad1980 04-17-2008 08:42 PM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emilie (Post 6893407)
I think the reason of all this stuff is that Richard is unhappy in his life. According to his interview he gave to L'equipe, he feels sad that people do not like him.
He can become depressive if this situation continues. Maybe, it would be better for him to stop playing tennis as a professionnal.
You cannot compare him to other players as he was a gifted child. The media know him since he is 9 years old. I have read some books about gifted child and they are very often very fragile and different.
I do not know what is the best for him but i prefer him to stop playing tennis than to continue and suffer all his carrier like this.


I don't think that's the case. Even if he does indeed think that people don't like him, it is up to him to change that. Fans like when their favorite players fight in every match they play. Who didn't like his effort against Roddick last year in Wimbledon? Or how about against Hewitt at 06 US Open? NO one would complain about it.... but people also see how disappointing he was at Roland Garros last year... or how he did not take a court against Young at US Open last year. It is normal that they react negatively to this things, because Richard is top 10 and should pull through these tough moments. At the very least, he should show his heart that he wants to win those matches no matter the surface and his condition.

Allure 04-17-2008 08:54 PM

Re: What seems to be the problem?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad1980 (Post 6895294)
I don't think that's the case. Even if he does indeed think that people don't like him, it is up to him to change that. Fans like when their favorite players fight in every match they play. Who didn't like his effort against Roddick last year in Wimbledon? Or how about against Hewitt at 06 US Open? NO one would complain about it.... but people also see how disappointing he was at Roland Garros last year... or how he did not take a court against Young at US Open last year. It is normal that they react negatively to this things, because Richard is top 10 and should pull through these tough moments. At the very least, he should show his heart that he wants to win those matches no matter the surface and his condition.

Agree Vlad. Richard should take those criticisms and improve, showing the haters that they are wrong about him. Not just get mad and complain that people ''hate'' him.


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