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#1 · (Edited)
Tommy's ranking watch:

Currently ranked 3:

Counted:
2001-10-15 Stuttgart 500 WON Tennis Masters
2002-01-14 Australian Open 450 SF Grand Slam
2002-05-06 Rome 350 F Tennis Masters
2001-10-08 Vienna 250 WON International
2002-07-29 Toronto 225 SF Tennis Masters
2001-10-29 Paris 225 SF Tennis Masters
2002-05-27 Roland Garros 150 4TH Grand Slam
2001-08-27 U.S. Open 150 4TH Grand Slam
2002-04-15 Monte Carlo 125 QF Tennis Masters
2002-08-12 Indianapolis 110 SF International
2001-10-01 Moscow 110 SF International
2002-08-19 Long Island 90 SF International
2002-05-13 Hamburg 75 3RD Tennis Masters
2002-02-18 Memphis 60 QF International
2002-03-18 Miami 35 3RD Tennis Masters
2002-03-11 Indian Wells 35 2ND Tennis Masters
2002-08-05 Cincinnati 5 1ST Tennis Masters


Not Counted:
2002-04-29 Munich 40 QF International
2002-02-25 Acapulco 25 2ND International
2002-04-22 Houston 15 2ND International
2002-07-22 Los Angeles 5 1ST International
2002-03-04 Scottsdale 5 1ST International
2001-10-22 St. Petersburg 5 1ST International

Total Points = 2945

I can't really predict anything concrete for GS's, what with the winner getting 1000 points etc. I'm seriously crap at it.

Ahead of him:
#1 Hewitt has 1000 points to defend. Tommy is over 1000 points behind him. Still, anything but another win would put tommy closer.
#2 Safin is roughly 200 points ahead, and has 450 SF points to defend. An early loss by him and a good run from tommy (poor shoulder tho) would swap them over.

Behind him:
#4 Kafelnikov has 450 SF points on the line, and is miles behind Tommy. No threat.
#5 Henman has 75 to defend. He should get more but only really high points would get us worried,
#6 Agassi has 250 QF points. I don't have the draw in my memory so I spose he could do a lot better.
 
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#351 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-Going Down :-(

Well since I mentioned Tommy's ranking in another thread I decided to check it at the ATP Site to see what it is. According to the ATP Site as of 7/28/08 Tommy was ranked #42 which was up 4 positions :) So he is getting that ranking up some, but it is going to be hard work :sad: But at least that is one thing about Tommy he has never been one to shy away from hard work ;)
 
#353 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

I hope Tommy can reach the top 32 before New York. He needs around 100 (?) points imo...minimum, not impossible but a good result in LA or Washington is necessary...better two ;)
Yeah,he can do that ;)
 
#355 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

As it stands on Monday,Tommy is now ranked #40..He had to defend those points from Washington last year after all as we can see that these points are removed and replaced by this Cincy 75pt..Which means that he gained 25..He is now on 890.
Am I right,or I misunderstood it ?
 
#356 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

Right you are. But he will lose his points gained in Toronto and Cincy last year, next week and the week after that, respectively. At the same time, the 35 points from Halle and San Jose will be added again.

So regarding the points he has now, 45 are going to be gone again; however, he already defended his USO series points from last year. We just see by now that this wasn't really much to defend, and to climb again in the ranking, he needs some good results in the next couple of weeks.
 
#357 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

Right you are. But he will lose his points gained in Toronto and Cincy last year, next week and the week after that, respectively. At the same time, the 35 points from Halle and San Jose will be added again.

So regarding the points he has now, 45 are going to be gone again; however, he already defended his USO series points from last year. We just see by now that this wasn't really much to defend, and to climb again in the ranking, he needs some good results in the next couple of weeks.
Good,yeah I know that he will lose those last year Toronto and Cincy pt,once when those 52 weeks comes..But again,knowing that those no-countable will be added then he won't lose that much pints..
So hope for good next weeks,as he can really get into top32...I think that only matters for him right now,and it should...
 
#358 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

I have the feeling that the ranking are much more complicated this year because of the changed schedule because of the Olympics... I get totally confused about when which points come off.
I just hope that Tommy somehow manages to do very well in these next tournaments to get that seeding.
 
#361 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

We are back on zero now as Canada has been removed from last year in Tommy's ranking breakdown...Tommy is now #48 but he won't loss any points in future (except 5p from Cincy last year,once they are removed)
So,Tommy will have to do all his best now if he wants to make to the top32 before USO...After all we will be expecting some withdrawals that could lead Tommy to the top32... Hardly but there is still hope that he can do it !
 
#365 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

The U.S. Open is a Slam surely there are more than 32 players there. I'm confused about why you keep saying 32 :confused:
We are saying that if gets top32,he will avoid players who will be seeded in first two rounds,I think that's very important as he needs a good draw there..
 
#366 · (Edited)
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

Wait a sec..I just saw this...Tommy won't have to defend anything here in Wash,as I can see that points from last year are gone ! As Tommy hadn't played any tours last year this time,he will gain now full points from Wash this week.Right?

Also,Tommy will have bonus of 10pt...If I am right those points from Cincy last year will be removed next week and San Jose as non-countable tour will becomes countable...So when San Jose jumps in..That will be 15 point...Minus 5pt from Cincy last year...Equals...10 points...
 
#373 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

You know,I am worry about that last tour before USO that Tommy won't play,there will be many of those players who will also try to reach the top32..Are we in threat by them?
 
#374 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

Well, some will win points, some will lose points, so I guess it's hard to say. I think if Tommy wins Washington (still a long way to go) he should be save. If he reaches the final, he just needs a little bit of luck. Let's wait and see. Right now, Tommy has to fight for the best initial position possible. The rest is Karma. ;)
 
#375 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

Well, some will win points, some will lose points, so I guess it's hard to say. I think if Tommy wins Washington (still a long way to go) he should be save. If he reaches the final, he just needs a little bit of luck. Let's wait and see. Right now, Tommy has to fight for the best initial position possible. The rest is Karma. ;)
Yeah,that's it...I think I will be calculating everything after this week,I will watch every movement of a player who can be a threat to Tommy on his way to the top32 ;)
 
#378 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

As I can see,player like Nieminen,Moya,Monaco,Hewitt will lose lot of points the next Monday as they didn't defend their pt from last year...That's even more chance for Tommy to do well...
 
#379 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

As I can see,player like Nieminen,Moya,Monaco,Hewitt will lose lot of points the next Monday as they didn't defend their pt from last year...That's even more chance for Tommy to do well...
I have been a fan of Tommy's for years and I love him dearly :inlove: But the posting in here needs a reality check at times. If I didn't know better and just came in and read these posts, I would think Tommy was a young and healthy athlete--not a 30 year old player that has had 3 shoulder surgeries on his serving arm. It doesn't matter all that much if Tommy is seeded or unseeded at the U.S. Open because sad to say he is not doing to win the Tournament :sad: Tommy's career is on borrowed time now and we all just should be happy he is still able to stay on the Tour, pick up some wins, and we can still see him play :D He was able to win some Tournaments with two shoulder surgeries which was amazing to me, however, I don't know about him winning Tournaments now after the 3rd surgery :unsure: And not just because of the surgery, but also more and more younger players who have talent are coming up fast in the rankings like Juan.
 
#380 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

I know your point,We all know big reality of Tommy's,but always reminding how he had those surgeries won't benefit for anyone especially Tommy...
But as long as he is able to play I will have faith in him like I had all those years back..
 
#381 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

I think there was a little mistake to our ranking calculations. Tommy will NOT gain 10 extra points, because while Cincy from last year will be removed, San Jose will NOT be added again, since this week's result in Washington takes over that spot in the "Best 5 other" list. So this means he will still lose the 5 points from Cincy, and thus will only gain 70 points on the whole, instead of 85 as we originally thought.
 
#382 ·
Re: Ranking Watch-fighting his way back up?

You are so right,how did I missed that :(
So anyway #39 for him,but again with those 85 that we thought he could got better only 1 place at #38...
 
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