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H2H Turkeys: When being a pigeon just isn't enough. 10+ differential required

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#1 ·
Losing 10+ differential in head to head matches, this is something not achieved by everyone, though some don't want it necessarily.

Initially this will be about past match ups, but there are some current ones that need updating.

Donkey punch would be good, but not appropriate. Turkey is a clear and concise for this category when being a pigeon isn't enough.

A classic one below, but Edberg won the ones that counted. He was 3-1 in Slams.

Boris Becker vs. Stefan Edberg

1984 Cologne Indoor Hardcourt R32 Edberg 6-4 6-4
1985 Philadelphia Indoor Carpet R32 Edberg 6-3 6-1
1985 Las Vegas Hardcourt R16 Becker 6-3 6-7 6-2
1985 Davis Cup Final, Carpet, F, Becker 6-3 3-6 7-5 8-6
1986 Dallas Indoor Carpet SF Becker 7-6 7-6 4-6 7-6
1986 Toronto Hardcourt F Becker 6-4 3-6 6-3
1986- Tokyo Indoor Carpet F Becker 7-6 6-1
1986 The Masters Indoor Carpet SF Becker 6-4 6-4
1987 Indian Wells Hardcourt F Becker 6-4 6-4 7-5
1987 Montreal Hardcourt SF Edberg 6-2 6-4
1987 Cincinnati Hardcourt F Edberg 6-4 6-1
1988 Dallas Indoor Carpet F Becker 6-4 1-6 7-5 6-2
1988 London / Queen's Club Grass F Becker 6-1 3-6 6-3
1988 Wimbledon Grass F Edberg 4-6 7-6 6-4 6-2
1988 The Masters Indoor Carpet RR Edberg 7-6 3-6 6-4
1988 Davis Cup Final, Clay, F Becker 6-3 6-1 6-4
1989 Roland Garros Clay SF Edberg 6-3 6-4 5-7 3-6 6-2
1989 Wimbledon Grass F Becker 6-0 7-6 6-4
1989 Paris Indoor Carpet F Becker 6-4 6-3 6-3
1989 The Masters Indoor Carpet RR Becker 6-1 6-4
1989 The Masters Indoor Carpet F Edberg 4-6 7-6 6-3 6-1
1989 Davis Cup Final, F, Carpet, Becker 6-2 6-2 6-4
1990 London / Queen's Club Grass SF Becker 6-4 6-4
1990 Wimbledon Grass F Edberg 6-2 6-2 3-6 3-6 6-4
1990 Sydney Indoor Hardcourt F Becker 7-6 6-4 6-4
1990 Stockholm Indoor Carpet F Becker 6-4 6-0 6-3
1990 Paris Indoor Carpet F Edberg 3-3 ret
1991 Stockholm Indoor Carpet F Becker 3-6 6-4 1-6 6-2 6-2
1992 Brussels Indoor Carpet SF Becker 4-6 6-4 6-2
1992 ATP Tour World Championship Indoor Carpet RR Becker 6-4 6-0
1993 Doha Hardcourt SF Becker 6-4 6-4
1994 ATP Tour World Championship Indoor Carpet RR Becker 6-7 6-4 7-5
1995 Basel Indoor Hardcourt QF Becker 6-4 3-6 6-3
1996 Doha Hardcourt R32 Becker 6-2 7-5
1996 London / Queen's Club Grass F Becker 6-4 7-6(3)

Becker leads 25-10
 
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#568 ·
Brad Gilbert 0-16 Lifetime vs Lendl

Gilbert was a really solid player. His lifetime record was 519-288, he won 20 titles, and he was ranked as high as world #4 (in 1990). But he faced absolute and total futility against Lendl, never beating him in 16 matches. I think this may be the most lopsided H2H ever for players who played each other at least 15 times. Are there other lifetime bagels out there? Any info would be appreciated.
 
#573 ·
Re: Brad Gilbert 0-16 Lifetime vs Lendl

Gilbert was a really solid player. His lifetime record was 519-288, he won 20 titles, and he was ranked as high as world #4 (in 1990). But he faced absolute and total futility against Lendl, never beating him in 16 matches. I think this may be the most lopsided H2H ever for players who played each other at least 15 times. Are there other lifetime bagels out there? Any info would be appreciated.
Borg vs Gerulaitis (as mentioned earlier in this thread) is also 16-0 although Vitas snuck in a WO win (see below). Noone is worse. Federer - Youzhny (currently 14-0) is the best active prospect for a new record.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=B058&oId=G008
 
#569 ·
Re: Brad Gilbert 0-16 Lifetime vs Lendl

Gilbert was a useless counterpunching mug (he's a fan of Wozniacki's game :eek:) and Lendl was a legend. The h2h of 50-0 would not do him justice, considering the gap in skill.
 
#571 ·
Re: Brad Gilbert 0-16 Lifetime vs Lendl

Gilbert was a useless counterpunching mug (he's a fan of Wozniacki's game :eek:) and Lendl was a legend. The h2h of 50-0 would not do him justice, considering the gap in skill.
I don't accept your characterization of Gilbert as a "mug." He had a really nice career. Mugs do not have a 64.3 lifetime winning percentage. It is obvious that Gilbert just did not match up well against Lendl. You would figure that with that many matches he would have squeezed out one win, but nope, not one. Just a real unique set of circumstances here.
 
#572 ·
Re: Brad Gilbert 0-16 Lifetime vs Lendl

I think Federer is getting close with Ferrer, 13-0 and counting :eek:

I don't think Pics has ever gotten MP vs him.
 
#574 ·
Novak Djokovic vs. Stanislas Wawrinka

Code:
2004 Aachen CH		32	Carpet  (I) Djokovic	6-2 6-3
2006 Umag		F	Clay    (O) Wawrinka	6-6(1) RET
2006 Davis Cup 2006	RR	Hard   	(I) Djokovic	6-4 3-6 2-6 7-6(3) 6-4
2006 Vienna		16	Hard   	(I) Wawrinka	3-6 3-6
2007 Vienna		F	Hard   	(I) Djokovic	6-4 6-0
2008 Indian Wells	Q	Hard   	(O) Djokovic	7-6(5) 6-2
2008 Rome		F 	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	4-6 6-3 6-3
2009 Indian Wells	16	Hard   	(O) Djokovic	7-6(7) 7-6(6)
2009 Monte Carlo	S 	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	4-6 6-1 6-3
2009 Basel		Q 	Hard   	(I) Djokovic	3-6 7-6(5) 6-2
2010 Monte Carlo	16	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	6-4 6-4
2011 Rome		16	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	6-4 6-1
2012 Madrid		16	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	7-6(5) 6-4
2012 US Open		16	Hard  	(O) Djokovic	6-4 6-1 3-1 RET
Djokovic leads 12-2
 
#575 ·
David Ferrer vs. Nicolas Almagro


Code:
2006	Cincinnati	32	Hard (O)	Ferrer	4-6 7-6(1) 6-0
2006	U.S. Open	128	Hard (O)	Ferrer	7-6(1) 7-6(6) 6-1
2007	Båstad		F	Clay (O)	Ferrer	6-1 6-2
2008	Valencia	F	Clay (O)	Ferrer	4-6 6-2 7-6(2)
2009	Valencia	32	Hard (O)	Ferrer	7-5 6-7(3) 6-2
2011	Acapulco	F	Clay (O)	Ferrer	7-6(4) 6-7(2) 6-2
2011	Barcelona	SF	Clay (O)	Ferrer	6-3 6-4
2011	Båstad		SF	Clay (O)	Ferrer	6-1 6-3
2012	Buenos Aires	F	Clay (O)	Ferrer  4-6 6-3 6-2
2012	Madrid		16	Clay (O)	Ferrer  7-6(5) 3-6 7-6 (8)
2012	Båstad		F	Clay (O)	Ferrer	6-2 6-2
2012	Valencia	QF	Hard (I)	Ferrer	6-3 7-5
Ferrer leads 12-0
 
#576 ·
Roger Federer vs. Juan Martin del Potro

Code:
2012 Basel		Hard (I) F	Del Potro 6-4 6-7(5) 7-6(3)
2012 Olympics  		Grass (O) SF 	Federer 3-6 7-6(5) 19-17
2012 Roland Garros 	Clay (O) QF 	Federer 3-6 6-7(4) 6-2 6-0 6-3
2012 Indian Wells	Hard (O) QF 	Federer 6-3 6-2
2012 Dubai 		Hard (O) SF 	Federer 7-6(5) 7-6(6)
2012 Rotterdam 		Hard (I) F 	Federer 6-1 6-4
2012 Australian Open 	Hard (O) Q 	Federer 6-4 6-3 6-2
2011 Cincinnati 	Hard (O) 32 	Federer 6-3 7-5
2009 TMC 		Hard (I) RR 	Del Potro 6-2 6-7(5) 6-3
2009 US Open 		Hard (O) F 	Del Potro 3-6 7-6(5) 4-6 7-6(4) 6-2
2009 Roland Garros 	Clay (O) S 	Federer 3-6 7-6(2) 2-6 6-1 6-4
2009 Madrid 		Clay (O) S 	Federer 6-3 6-4
2009 Australian Open 	Hard (O) Q 	Federer 6-3 6-0 6-0
2008 Madrid 		Hard (I) Q 	Federer 6-3 6-3
2007 Basel 		Hard (I) 16 	Federer 6-1 6-4
2007 Wimbledon 		Grass(O) 64 	Federer 6-2 7-5 6-1
Federer leads 13-3
 
#577 ·
Roger Federer vs. David Ferrer

2012 World Tour Finals London UK Hard RR Federer 6-4, 7-6
2012 Madrid Spain Clay Q Federer 6-4, 6-4
2011 World Tour Finals London, UK Hard S Federer 7-5, 6-3
2010 World Tour Finals London, UK Hard RR Federer 6-1, 6-4
2010 Madrid Spain Clay S Federer 7-5, 3-6, 6-3
2009 Cincinnati OH, U.S.A. Hard R16 Federer 3-6, 6-3, 6-4
2007 Tennis Masters Cup China Hard F Federer 6-2, 6-3, 6-2
2007 Hamburg Germany Clay Q Federer 6-3, 4-6, 6-3
2007 Monte Carlo Monaco Clay Q Federer 6-4, 6-0
2006 Basel Switzerland Carpet Q Federer 6-3, 7-6(14)
2006 Monte Carlo Monaco Clay Q Federer 6-1, 6-3
2006 Miami FL, U.S.A. Hard S Federer 6-1, 6-4
2005 Doha Qatar Hard R32 Federer 6-1, 6-1
2003 Vienna Austria Hard R32 Federer 6-2, 6-2

Federer leads 14-0
 
#580 ·
Fed's turkeys:

Andy Roddick 21–3
Lleyton Hewitt 18–8
Nikolay Davydenko 17–2
Robin Söderling 16–1
David Ferrer 14–0
Mikhail Youzhny 14–0
Jarkko Nieminen 13–0
Juan Martín del Potro 13–3
Ivan Ljubičić 13–3
Fernando González 12–1
Stanislas Wawrinka 12–1
Feliciano López 10–0
Tommy Robredo 10–0

 
#583 ·
Delpo has always been a rebelious turkey: taking a GS away from his masters, beating him in his hometown tournament, pretty much ending his hopes at Olympic gold (despite losing the match). I'm afraid Federer needs to make that birdcage a bit tigher ;)
 
#587 ·
Novak Djokovic vs. Tomas Berdych

Code:
2008 Bangkok            Hard (I) SF	Djokovic 7-5 6-1
2009 Miami		Hard (0) R16	Djokovic 6-3 6-2
2010 Wimbledon  	Grass(O) SF	Berdych  6-3 7-6(9) 6-3
2010 Davis Cup  	Hard (I) RR	Djokovic 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4
2010 WTF London         Hard (I) RR	Djokovic 6-3 6-3
2011 Australian Open    Hard (O) QF	Djokovic 6-1 7-6(5) 6-1
2011 Dubai      	Hard (O) SF 	Djokovic 6-7(5) 6-2 4-2 RET
2011 Cincinnati	        Hard (O) SF	Djokovic 7-5 RET
2011 WTF London      	Hard (I) RR 	Djokovic 3-6 6-3 7-6(3)
2012 Monte Carlo      	Clay (O) SF 	Djokovic 4-6 6-3 6-2
2012 Shanghai		Hard (O) SF	Djokovic 6-3 6-4
2012 WTF London         Hard (I) RR	Djokovic 6-2 7-6(6)
Djokovic leads 11-1
 
#588 ·
Novak Djokovic vs. Viktor Troicki

Code:
2007 Umag		16	Clay (O) 	Troicki	2-6 6-4 7-5
2009 Belgrade		QF	Clay (O) 	Djokovic 6-3 6-2
2009 Beijing		16	Hard (O) 	Djokovic 6-3 6-0
2010 Dubai		16	Hard (O) 	Djokovic 3-6 6-4 6-2
2010 Cincinnati		32	Hard (O) 	Djokovic 6-3 7-5
2010 U.S. Open		128	Hard (O) 	Djokovic 6-3 3-6 2-6 7-5 6-3
2010 Basel		SF	Hard (I) 	Djokovic 7-6(4) 6-4
2011 Australian Open	32	Hard (O) 	Djokovic 6-2 RET
2011 Indian Wells	16	Hard (O) 	Djokovic 6-0 6-1
2011 Miami		16	Hard (O) 	Djokovic 6-3 6-2
2011 Paris Open		16	Hard (I) 	Djokovic 4-6 6-3 6-1
2012 Miami		32	Hard (O) 	Djokovic 6-3 6-4
2012 Wimbledon		32	Grass (O)	Djokovic 6-3 6-1 6-3
2013 Dubai		32	Hard (O)	Djokovic 6-1 6-4
Djokovic leads 13-1
 
#589 ·
David Ferrer vs. Nicolas Almagro


Code:
2006	Cincinnati	32	Hard (O)	Ferrer	4-6 7-6(1) 6-0
2006	U.S. Open	128	Hard (O)	Ferrer	7-6(1) 7-6(6) 6-1
2007	Båstad		F	Clay (O)	Ferrer	6-1 6-2
2008	Valencia	F	Clay (O)	Ferrer	4-6 6-2 7-6(2)
2009	Valencia	32	Hard (O)	Ferrer	7-5 6-7(3) 6-2
2011	Acapulco	F	Clay (O)	Ferrer	7-6(4) 6-7(2) 6-2
2011	Barcelona	SF	Clay (O)	Ferrer	6-3 6-4
2011	Båstad		SF	Clay (O)	Ferrer	6-1 6-3
2012	Buenos Aires	F	Clay (O)	Ferrer  4-6 6-3 6-2
2012	Madrid		16	Clay (O)	Ferrer  7-6(5) 3-6 7-6 (8)
2012	Båstad		F	Clay (O)	Ferrer	6-2 6-2
2012	Valencia	QF	Hard (I)	Ferrer	6-3 7-5
2013	Australian Open	QF	Hard (O)	Ferrer	4-6 4-6 7-5 7-6(4) 6-2
Ferrer leads 13-0
 
#590 ·
Novak Djokovic vs. Stanislas Wawrinka

Code:
2004 Aachen CH		32	Carpet  (I) Djokovic	6-2 6-3
2006 Umag		F	Clay    (O) Wawrinka	6-6(1) RET
2006 Davis Cup 2006	RR	Hard   	(I) Djokovic	6-4 3-6 2-6 7-6(3) 6-4
2006 Vienna		16	Hard   	(I) Wawrinka	3-6 3-6
2007 Vienna		F	Hard   	(I) Djokovic	6-4 6-0
2008 Indian Wells	Q	Hard   	(O) Djokovic	7-6(5) 6-2
2008 Rome		F 	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	4-6 6-3 6-3
2009 Indian Wells	16	Hard   	(O) Djokovic	7-6(7) 7-6(6)
2009 Monte Carlo	S 	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	4-6 6-1 6-3
2009 Basel		Q 	Hard   	(I) Djokovic	3-6 7-6(5) 6-2
2010 Monte Carlo	16	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	6-4 6-4
2011 Rome		16	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	6-4 6-1
2012 Madrid		16	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	7-6(5) 6-4
2012 US Open		16	Hard  	(O) Djokovic	6-4 6-1 3-1 RET
2004 Aachen CH		32	Carpet  (I) Djokovic	6-2 6-3
2006 Umag		F	Clay    (O) Wawrinka	6-6(1) RET
2006 Davis Cup 2006	RR	Hard   	(I) Djokovic	6-4 3-6 2-6 7-6(3) 6-4
2006 Vienna		16	Hard   	(I) Wawrinka	3-6 3-6
2007 Vienna		F	Hard   	(I) Djokovic	6-4 6-0
2008 Indian Wells	Q	Hard   	(O) Djokovic	7-6(5) 6-2
2008 Rome		F 	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	4-6 6-3 6-3
2009 Indian Wells	16	Hard   	(O) Djokovic	7-6(7) 7-6(6)
2009 Monte Carlo	S 	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	4-6 6-1 6-3
2009 Basel		Q 	Hard   	(I) Djokovic	3-6 7-6(5) 6-2
2010 Monte Carlo	16	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	6-4 6-4
2011 Rome		16	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	6-4 6-1
2012 Madrid		16	Clay   	(O) Djokovic	7-6(5) 6-4
2012 US Open		16	Hard  	(O) Djokovic	6-4 6-1 3-1 RET
2013 Australian Open	16	Hard	(O) Djokovic	1-6 7-5 6-4 6-7(5) 12-10
Djokovic leads 13-2
 
#591 ·
Roger Federer vs. Nikolai Davydenko


Code:
2002	Milan		16	Carpet (I)	Federer	6-3 6-7(5) 7-5
2004	Miami		64	Hard (O)	Federer	6-2 3-6 7-5
2004	Olympics	64	Hard (O)	Federer	6-3 5-7 6-1
2005	Doha		SF	Hard (O)	Federer	6-3 6-4
2005	Rotterdam	QF	Hard (I)	Federer	7-5 7-5
2005	Hamburg		SF	Clay (O)	Federer	6-3 6-4
2006	Australian Open	QF	Hard (O)	Federer	6-4 3-6 7-6(7) 7-6(5)
2006	U.S. Open	SF	Hard (O)	Federer	6-1 7-5 6-4
2007	French Open	SF	Clay (O)	Federer	7-5 7-6(5) 7-6(7)
2007	U.S. Open	SF	Hard (O)	Federer	7-5 6-1 7-5
2007	TMC		RR	Hard (I)	Federer	6-4 6-3
2008	Estoril		FR	Clay (O)	Federer	7-6(5) 1-2 RET
2009	TMC		SF	Hard (I)	Davydenko 6-2 4-6 7-5
2010	Doha		SF	Hard (O)	Davydenko 6-4 6-4
2010	Australian Open	QF	Hard (O)	Federer	2-6 6-3 6-0 7-5
2010	Cincinnati	QF	Hard (O)	Federer	6-4 7-5
2011	Doha		F	Hard (O)	Federer	6-3 6-4
2012	Doha		32	Hard (O)	Federer 6-2 6-2
2012	Rotterdam	SF	Hard (I)	Federer 4-6 6-3 6-4
2013	Australian Open	64	Hard (O)	Federer 6-3 6-4 6-4
2013	Dubai		QF	Hard (O)	Federer 6-2 6-2
Federer leads 19-2
 
#592 ·
Novak Djokovic vs. Andreas Seppi

Code:
2006 Rotterdam          Hard (I) 32     Djokovic 6-2 2-6 7-5
2007 Vienna		Hard (I) SF	Djokovic 6-4 6-3
2008 Indian Wells 	Hard (O) 64	Djokovic 6-3 7-6(3)
2008 Cincinnati 	Hard (O) 16	Djokovic 6-1 6-2
2009 Belgrade 	        Clay (O) SF	Djokovic 4-6 6-1 6-2
2009 Madrid 	        Clay (O) 16	Djokovic 6-4 6-4
2012 Monte Carlo      	Clay (O) 32 	Djokovic 6-1 6-4
2012 French Open	Clay (O) 16	Djokovic 4-6 6-7(5) 6-3 7-5 6-3
2012 Cincinnati		Hard (O) 16	Djokovic 7-6(4) 6-2
2013 Dubai		Hard (O) QF	Djokovic 6-0 6-3
Djokovic leads 10-0
 
#593 ·
3 wins for Roger against Davy and I may be able to bump the Ostrich thread...
 
#610 ·
thats why 2004-2007 was weak era.
 
#605 ·
Novak Djokovic vs. Tomas Berdych

Code:
2008 Bangkok            Hard (I) SF	Djokovic 7-5 6-1
2009 Miami		Hard (0) R16	Djokovic 6-3 6-2
2010 Wimbledon  	Grass(O) SF	Berdych  6-3 7-6(9) 6-3
2010 Davis Cup  	Hard (I) RR	Djokovic 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4
2010 WTF London         Hard (I) RR	Djokovic 6-3 6-3
2011 Australian Open    Hard (O) QF	Djokovic 6-1 7-6(5) 6-1
2011 Dubai      	Hard (O) SF 	Djokovic 6-7(5) 6-2 4-2 RET
2011 Cincinnati	        Hard (O) SF	Djokovic 7-5 RET
2011 WTF London      	Hard (I) RR 	Djokovic 3-6 6-3 7-6(3)
2012 Monte Carlo      	Clay (O) SF 	Djokovic 4-6 6-3 6-2
2012 Shanghai		Hard (O) SF	Djokovic 6-3 6-4
2012 WTF London         Hard (I) RR	Djokovic 6-2 7-6(6)
2013 Australian Open	Hard (O) QF	Djokovic 6-1 4-6 6-1 6-4
2013 Dubai		Hard (O) F	Djokovic 7-5 6-3
Djokovic leads 13-1
 
#607 ·
Its amazing how Djokovic is able to neutralize great Berdych attacking tennis.
 
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