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#1 · (Edited)
Throughout his career Federer has attained numerous records – some of which are very well documented and publicised, others which perhaps are not. But often the question is asked: what more is there left to achieve? For sure there are many tennis records out there, a good number of them would be almost impossible for Federer to beat. But there are also numerous records that can still be equalled and/or broken.

So in this thread – which happens to be my first ;) – I have listed in no particular order, some of the records he has yet to achieve but may yet plausibly attain. They all refer to achievements in singles during the Open Era unless specified otherwise. Of course I have also included what he needs to do to achieve them and will try to update this on a regular basis (your help would be much appreciated with this too).

Note that there are numerous records which Federer has equalled but has not yet surpassed. Depending upon the response I get from this thread, I might include these in the post as well.

I’d just like to add that if Federer does not achieve many (or indeed any) of the records listed below, that does not in any way detract from his achievements thus far. For me at least, his place in tennis history is already sealed, although new chapters of this history are being added as time passes and that perhaps one day it is only reasonable to imagine that a number of Federer’s own records may be caught up to. But for now let us look forward to what there is still to aim for because as Roger states himself:



Update in progress... (stats to be correct correct to Monday 22nd June 2015, week prior to the start of Wimbledon)
Click for selected achievements since the previous update


PS: I am aware that there are more potential records which he can target, which I will add on in due course. In the meantime please let me know if there is anything I have missed out or if there are any important ones which you think should be included here.
Please also let be know if you spot any errors. Thanks :)
 
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#283 ·
Pretty sure Connors' doesn't have that one. Guillermo Vilas has 75, ahead of Borg 63, then Connors 59 and Fed in 4th with 54. Vilas used to have 73, btw. His Wiki total in FO has been moved up from 56 to 58, after is was discovered RG 1972 did not have a 64-man draw as ATP claims but as 256-man draw.
Sorry, I should have clarified. Connors has the record number of clay GS wins for a player who's best surface wasn't clay. That's the record I think he can break. I don't think he can pass Vilas for Clay GS wins. Connors, yes, Borg, yes, but I don't think he'll pass Vilas.
 
#287 ·
Wow Federer has reached most ever weeks in top 2. Unbelievable! Here are a few more as-yet-unachieved records to cheer for:

1. Calendar years at #1 = 5 versus Sampras at 6

2. Won or lost to eventual champ in grand slams: Federer = 17 + 12 = 29, Lendl = 8 + 23 = 31

3. 76 singles titles versus 199 for Rod Laver (ATP and non-ATP), 109 for Connors (ATP), 94 for Lendl (ATP) and 77 for McEnroe (ATP)

4. Roger has won slams on 3 different surfaces once, but Wilander and Nadal have done it twice

5. Singles gold at Olympics, Davis Cup for Switzerland, calendar year grand slam...
 
#288 · (Edited)
Federer has a huge record he is up for with the Benneteau match! First man ever to win 58 matches at Roland Garros!

If he wins, he'll become the first man since Jimmy Connors to lead in two grand slams, who leads at Wimbledon and at the US Open. First ever to lead the Australian Open and the French Open.

Federer's already tied Lendl for 40 consecutive GS appearances without losing in the first round. He's also still tied with Lendl for 35 consecutive 4R appearances (probably Lendl's greatest longevity personal record). Connors is in third with 32 consecutive 4R appearances, getting KOd by Seguso at Wimbledon in 1986. Aside from them, no one else is close.

Lendl's record ended with Carlos Bergstrom of Sweden who defeated him 6-4 6-4 2-6 6-4 in the first round of the 1993 Australian Open.

If Federer wins in the first round at Wimbledon and wins here vs Benneteau, it will mean the unification of *every* endurance record. There will no longer be a split between consecutive 'appearances' and consecutive outright for the 2R, 3R, 4R, QF, SF, F. The only one that Federer *doesn't* own is the W, which of course is Laver's, sadly.

Federer's also cruising for Wayne Ferriera's record as well for most consecutive appearances which he has a shot to tie at the USO presuming he stays healthy.

So at Wimbledon, the only consecutive records that will be up for grabs are the appearances and the 'not losing in the first round' record.

Federer's also sneaking up on Jimmy Connor's 59 wins on Clay surfaces at the Grand Slams, the most by a player who's primary surface wasn't Clay. He's currently fourth all time behind Vilas, Borg, Connors and then Federer.

Federer's also approaching 900 wins, he'll be the first in the unified tour era to reach that number. The last man to reach 900 wins was Lendl.
 
#289 ·
This list tracks those players who remain active since Roger's slam participation streak began in AO 2000 - 13 years ago. With the retirement of Juan Carlos Ferrero that brings the active total to just 4 players out of the original draw of 128 players who remain active with ranking points.

Tommy Haas is the highest ranked player! He is also the second oldest, aside from Dupuis who will have ranking points until this September. Bastl played three times this year, all in Turkey futures. Dupuis lost in a South Korea challenger qualifying, though he did still win his first qualifying match. Okun has not played since the Davis Cup match.

Hewitt, Llodra and Haas are still around and doing well.

Tommy Haas - STILL ACTIVE - (14)
Michael Llodra - STILL ACTIVE - (55)
Lleyton Hewitt - STILL ACTIVE - (86)

Antony Dupuis - STILL ACTIVE - (1301) [September 10th, 2013] (3 RP)

Noam Okun (NR) STILL ACTIVE [February 1st 2013]
George Bastl (NR) STILL ACTIVE [May 13, 2013] 0 RP

Joseph Sirianni (NR) RETIRED
 
#293 ·
Interesting find. The neat part about this is that this record hasn't been challenged since 1989. :)
 
#300 ·
Title 77 today, up to equal 3rd with McEnroe.

It was also his 57th title outdoors, breaking the tie with Vilas and Connors on 56 and securing Roger the record on his own :)

Plus, he's now got 13 straight years of winning at least one title. He ties Connors there. Only Lendl (14) is better. He can tie him next year.
 
#301 ·
Yes this was a very important win. He also improves his lead in grass titles to 13. I'm perfectly fine with him not winning as much as before; each of these achievements is a great bonus.

He's also at a massive 121 grass match wins. And 22 ATP-250 wins, only behind Muster's 26 (sure, not an important record to chase).

I hope Federer can tie the record of reaching a slam final for 11 consecutive seasons at Wimbledon or the US Open. By the way, Federer has 12 consecutive years with a Masters 1000 final now, probably a record. Sampras has 11, Nadal 9, Agassi only 5.
 
#302 ·
Great win today, he looked super energized and was very vocal.
 
#305 ·
By winning the Halle final, Federer avoided losing 4 consecutive finals, having already lost the finals in Basel, WTF, Rome. He is still without a 4+ loss streak in finals in his career. He has 3 other streaks of 3 lost finals (2006 and 2008 on clay vs. Nadal, and in 2010 Madrid-Halle-Canada).

Interestingly, the other current top players have a similar record. Nadal has 3 streaks of 3 finals losses, and one of 4 losses. Djokovic has 3 streaks of 3 losses, Murray has 1.
 
#308 ·
Interesting thread, Litotes. Really a special time to be watching. Glad to see he won in Halle, would be nice to see how he does in Wimbly now that Nadal is out.
 
#309 ·
QF, 4th round, 3er round streaks :sad:
 
#312 · (Edited)
This is an update of the OPs stats:

Updated after the Paris Masters (stats correct to Thursday 18th July, 2013)


Title records by tournament type

Most outdoor titles

Here Federer is now 1th on the list.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Outdoor titles[/u]
1		Federer		57
2		Vilas		56
=3		Connors		55
=3		Nadal		55
Most Tennis Masters Cups / World Tour Finals won

WTF trophies:
Code:
[u]Rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]TMC / WTF titles[/u]
[B]1	Federer		6 [/B]
[B]=2	Sampras		5[/B]
[B]=2	Lendl		5[/B]
Most Masters 1000 titles

In 2011 Federer has surpassed Agassi but is three behind Nadal, and one behind Nadal for most finals.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Masters 1000 titles[/u]
[B]1		Nadal		24[/B]
2		Federer		21
Most individual Masters 1000 tournaments won

After Djokovic won Monte Carlo, Federer is now second after winning 7 from 9. He's missing Monte Carlo (3 time finalist), Rome (2 time finalist). Note that Federer’s best result in Shanghai is a loss in the final, but this event replaced Hamburg, which he won on 4 occasions.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Different Masters 1000s won[/u]
 [B]1		Djokovic		8[/B] 
=2		Federer		7
=2		Agassi		7
Most ATP 500 titles

Federer needs 2 more to tie with the leader, Nadal
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]ATP 500 titles[/u]
[B]1		Nadal		14[/B]
=2		Sampras		12
=2		Federer		12
Most ATP 250 titles

By winning Halle, Federer surpassed Sampras and Hewitt
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]ATP 500 titles[/u]
[B]1		Muster		26[/B]
 2		Federer		21
=2		Roddick		21
Match winning records

Matches won in all Grand Slams

Federer stands 1st in the Open Era list
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Grand Slam match wins [/u]
[B]1		Federer		257[/B]
2		Connors		233
3		Agassi		224
Matches won on hard courts at Grand Slams

Federer is now first in this particular statistic.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Grand Slam hard court wins [/u]
[B]1		Federer		132[/B]
2		Agassi		127

Most Grand Slam semi final appearances

Federer has overtaken Connors here
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Grand Slam semi final appearances[/u]
[B]1		Federer		33 [/B]
2		Connors		31

Most Grand Slam quarter final appearances

Federer is here only one behind Connors now.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Grand Slam quarter final appearances[/u]
[B]1		Connors		41[/B]
2		Federer		40
3		Agassi		36


Matches won at the Masters Cup / World Tour Finals

Federer tied Lendl 2011 and got the lead alone in 2012.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Year-end Championship matches won[/u]
1		Federer		42
2		Lendl		39
3		Becker		36

Most Tennis Masters Cup finals / World Tour Finals appearances in finals

Federer and Becker is 1 behind Lendl.
Code:
[U]Rank[/U]    [U]Player[/U]		[U]TMC / WTF finals[/U]
[B]1	Lendl		9[/B]
=2	Becker		8
[COLOR=red]=2	Federer		8[/COLOR]


‘Consecutive’ records

Most consecutive Grand Slam appearances

Federer will have to participate in every major tournament up to and including US Open 2013 to match Wayne Ferreira’s Open Era record.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Consecutive Grand Slams entered[/u]
[B]1		Ferreira		56[/B]
 2		Federer		55 
3		Edberg		54

Most consecutive seasons having reached a Grand Slam final

Federer will have to reach one Grand Slam final in 2013 to match Sampras and Lendl.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Years [/u]
[B]=1		Sampras		11[/B]
[B]=1		Lendl		11[/B]
3		Federer		10

Australian Open records

Note that due to the existence of the Challenge Round in early years of the slams and its subsequent discontinuation, pre Open Era comparisons are only made for wins and finals

Most championships won

Federer has equalled Andre Agassi’s Open Era record of 4 Australian Open wins. This feat has been matched by 2 players, including Ken Rosewall who had victories either side of the introduction of the Open era. The all-time record belongs to Roy Emerson
Code:
[u]All-time rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Australian Opens won[/u]
[B]1		Emerson		6[/B]
=2		Federer		4
=2		Agassi		4
=2		Djokovic	4
=2		Rosewall	4
=2		Crawford	4
Most final appearances

Federer is tied with Stefan Edberg’s record 5 Australian Open finals in the open era. Ken Rosewall achieved the same feat but 3 of his titles came before the Open era. In those earlier days, 3 separate players made final appearances a record 7 times.
Code:
[u]All-time rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Australian Opens finals[/u]
[B]=1		Emerson		7[/B]
[B]=1		Bromwich	7[/B]
[B]=1		Crawford	7[/B]
=4		Federer		5
=4		Edberg		5
Most semi final appearances

Federer is alone here with 10 for record in the Open Era.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Australian Opens semi finals[/u]
1		Federer		10
2		Edberg		8
Most quarter final appearances

Federer is joint 1st in the standings with Edberg as things now stand
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Australian Opens quarter finals[/u]
[B]=1		Edberg		10[/B]
=1		Federer		10
=3		Lendl		8
=3		Newcombe	8
French Open records

Most final appearances

Federer is 1 behind Borg and three behind Nadal.
Code:
[u]All-time rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]French Open finals[/u]
[B]1		Nadal		8[/B]
2		Borg		6
=3		Federer		5
=3		Wilander	5
=3		Lendl		5
=3		Drobny		5
=3		Cochet		5
=3		Lacoste		5

Most semi final appearances

Federer is at the time of writing one behind Nadal's Open Era record 8.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]French Open semi finals[/u]
[B]1		Nadal		8[/B] 
2		Federer		7
 [B]=3		Borg		6[/B]
[B]=3		Wilander	6[/B]
Most quarter final appearances

After FO 2013, Federer has taken this record
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]French Open quarter finals[/u]
1		Federer		10
=2		Agassi		9
=2		Vilas		9
=2		Nadal		9

Wimbledon records

Most championships won

Federer is tied for this record with Pete Sampras and William Renshaw for all time (including pre Open era)
Code:
[u]All-time rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Wimbledons won[/u]
[B]=1		Sampras		7[/B]
[b]=1		Renshaw		7[/b]
=1		Federer		7
Most final appearances

Federer has the Open Era record ahead of with Sampras and Becker but is tied with two of the tournament’s early participants.
Code:
[u]All-time rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Wimbledon finals[/u]
[B]=1		Gore		8[/B]
[B]=1		Bromwich	8[/B]
=1		Federer		8
=4		Sampras		7
=4		Becker		7
Most semi final appearances

Connor’s record of 11 semi finals is going to be very difficult for Federer to match. He is currently 3 behind.
Code:
[u]Open era rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Wimbledon semi finals[/u]
[B]1		Connors		11[/B]
2		Becker		9
=3		Sampras		8
=3		McEnroe		8
=3		Federer		8


US Open records

Most championships won

Federer needs 2 more US Open victories to tie 3 players from before the Open Era. He currently shares the Open Era record with Connors and Sampras
Code:
[u]All-time rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]US Opens won[/u]
[B]=1		Tilden		7[/B]
[b]=1		Larned		7[/b]
[b]=1		Sears		7[/b]
=4		Federer		5
=4		Sampras		5 
=4		Connors		5
Most final appearances

Tilden’s all-time record of 10 is also going to be extremely difficult to match as he needs 4 more. The Open Era record shared by Lendl and Sampras are 2 more than Federer at the moment.
Code:
[u]All-time rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]US Open finals[/u]
[B]1		Tilden		10[/B]
2		Larned		9
=3		Sampras		8
=3		Lendl		8
=5		Connors		7
=5		Sears		7
=7		Federer		6
=7		Agassi		6

Rankings records

Note that rankings statistics compare players since 1973, when the ATP first used the computerised ranking method.

Most weeks at number 1

Federer has totalled 302 weeks at the top of the ATP rankings, well ahead of Pete Sampras’ old record
Code:
[u]Rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Total weeks at number 1[/u]
1	Federer		302
2	Sampras		286

Most weeks ranked in top 2

Federer is now 9 weeks ahead of Lendl
Code:
[u]Rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Total weeks at number 1 or 2[/u]
1	Federer		418
2	Lendl		409
3	Sampras		376


Most years ended at number 1

Alongside Connors, Federer is also 1 shy of Sampras
Code:
[u]Rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Year end number 1s[/u]
[B]1	Sampras		6[/B]
=2	Federer		5
=2	Connors		5
Most years ended in top 2

Federer has the consecutive record with 8 years, and the total record with 9
Code:
[u]Rank[/u]	[u]Player[/u]		[u]Year end number 1 or 2[/u]
[B]1	Federer		9[/B]
2	Connors		8
 
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