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Death penalty: Yes or No?

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What do you think about death penalty?

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#110 ·
The evidence must be BULLETPROOF, if there is no doubt that the criminal is responsible for some horrible crime, I think the victims deserve their vengeance and also the criminal shouldnt be allowed a comfortable life in jail for the rest of his life. Say, someone like Breivik, that man should be killed.
 
#111 ·
What if for some reason or another, devout religious or personal beliefs, the left over family of the victim don't want the death sentence passed. Then what do you do?

I think it's shaky to assume that everyone who has a family member murdered would want the perp executed.

I have never been in that position, but I am against the DP. I can't say if someone was convicted of killing my family member I would want them to be executed, but then again my opinion isn't valid if I havent been in that situation.
 
#115 ·
No.

In my country it would not work because the justice system is not perfect.

My question is, between A or B what would you choose?

A) an innocent person killed.
B) the most horrible criminal free.

For me, it's B.

On the other hand, I do understand that some criminal just can't be realeased, for example serial killers, rapist, or child molesters.
 
#117 ·
I am against the death penalty at 95%. I think that it has to be an exceptional measure to apply only with special cases of horrible criminals that have admit that they are guilty or when there are a lot of clear evidences that they are the guilties.

The thing we have to do is to make stronger and restrictive laws to punish criminals even harder than we do it now.
 
#121 ·
I am far more dissapointed seeing so many stupid liberal do-gooders on this site. As far as I am concerned, if the criminal has committed a murder or is a child molester, then a trip to the executioner is more than deserved. I would also add drug-dealers to this list. These people are scum, why waste taxpayers money on them when all they deserve is a slow death?

But of course I know, a good liberal would rather try to rehabilitate murderers and let them murder more innocent people than actually put an end to crimes.
 
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#127 ·
People are not born serial killers, murderers, rapists, etc. unless there is some physical impairment of the brain from birth.

Family or lack thereof, society, environment, etc. has usually helped to shape their lives. There is a failure or serious of failures, maybe even abuse at some point, or perhaps the brain of someone has been impaired, but it's usually pathological in some way, and underlying causes can and have eventually been found in these people. Looking at it this way, we should seriously question ourselves as a society for failing to recognize potentially harmful people and helping them prior to them committing serious crimes, instead of condemning them to death after the fact.

The best we can do after the crime is to remove them from harming others and make an attempt to rehabilitate. It may not always work, but it is the civilized thing to do.

A society that permits executions is knowingly committing "legalized" homicide. War or military conflict is sanctioned killing by the state. Yet many of these people are called heroic and it is justified in the name of patriotism, religion, or political right and might.

Instead of countries having military drafts to train people how to kill, they should first be having qualified psychological evaluations for every person at least yearly. We might not be able to identify everyone with a potential of violence from either static or dynamic risk factors and help improve or overcome those, but I bet we would improve on the current situation.

Respectfully,
masterclass
 
#128 ·
People are not born serial killers, murderers, rapists, etc. unless there is some physical impairment of the brain from birth.

Family or lack thereof, society, environment, etc. has usually helped to shape their lives. There is a failure or serious of failures, maybe even abuse at some point, or perhaps the brain of someone has been impaired, but it's usually pathological in some way, and underlying causes can and have eventually been found in these people. Looking at it this way, we should seriously question ourselves as a society for failing to recognize potentially harmful people and helping them prior to them committing serious crimes, instead of condemning them to death after the fact.

The best we can do after the crime is to remove them from harming others and make an attempt to rehabilitate. It may not always work, but it is the civilized thing to do.

A society that permits executions is knowingly committing "legalized" homicide. War or military conflict is sanctioned killing by the state. Yet many of these people are called heroic and it is justified in the name of patriotism, religion, or political right and might.

Instead of countries having military drafts to train people how to kill, they should first be having qualified psychological evaluations for every person at least yearly. We might not be able to identify everyone with a potential of violence from either static or dynamic risk factors and help improve or overcome those, but I bet we would improve on the current situation.


Respectfully,
masterclass

I like your idea of more psych evaluations. If we could catch problems early on, perhaps there would be hope for recovery. No doubt pathology is responsible for a lot of deviant behaviour, but there are also studies which reveal that even seemingly "good", healthy and law-abiding people have a capacity for deviance (what some call evil) under certain social circumstances and influences. Historically, the main goal of capital punishment has been to serve as a deterrent and warning for these types, as opposed to revenge on the criminal. Essentially, I'm convinced that good people can be influenced to be bad in short order. You have some really great ideas there but I have no easy answers.
 
#129 ·
Yes, the sooner we get rid of the idea of free will the better we'll focus our discussion on this and other subjects.
 
#130 ·
I may get a little obtuse by the time the weekend rolls around, after a hard week, but some elaboration would have been helpful. Hard to tell if you're being cynical or not.
 
#131 ·
It is barbaric. It does not deter serious crimes. It does not save money, it actually costs more to execute people. Innocent people have had their heads chopped off. There are no second chances. I don't see the point of having it. I'm glad the UK does not have it anymore. I hope all countries abolish it.
 
#132 ·
Some people do not deserve second chances. Barbaric? DP is too humane actually. Some people deserve to be tortured for weeks for things they've done. It's disgusting how liberal this world has become. I know if someone laid a finger on my family, I'd cut off their every limb with garden cutters. And I wouldn't care if I got executed for it either.
 
#137 ·
It is barbaric. It does not deter serious crimes. It does not save money, it actually costs more to execute people. Innocent people have had their heads chopped off. There are no second chances. I don't see the point of having it. I'm glad the UK does not have it anymore. I hope all countries abolish it.
Personally I'd be scared shitless if I saw someone lose their pumpkin by the old guillotine in the town square.
 
#134 ·
Why would you get executed for saving your family from criminals? Only dummy judges & death penalty haters feel sorry for shameless killers, thugs and psycho cowards.

If death isn't a deterrent, we'd have a billion more prisoners just enjoying visits from their happy families.

What about people who were forced to do hard labor by Vietnam communists?
They were victims, but no one remembers them because they died young and the communists got away with cruelty.
 
#136 ·
Statistically speaking it matters not whether a country has the death penalty or not. Serious and violent crimes always happen either way. As a deterrent the death penalty does not reduce serious crimes. I found forensic psychology a little depressing. Informative yes but depressing. The world is a complicated place. When it comes to crime there are too many factors and variables involved. I used to have a purely black and white view of crime and punishment but there is a whole lot of grey out there.
 
#144 ·
may be just for me, being shut in a prison for life is actually a more worst punishment than a quick death
 
#145 ·
Don't let the sugar-sweet persona of mimi fool anyone. She is ruthless :haha:
 
#149 ·
yes bc of this and lots of ppl like him

face of pure evil

 
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#160 ·
no.
 
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