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Was Mardy Fish right or wrong?

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#1 ·
Mardy Fish down a set and break point at 4-4 in the 2nd hits a fantastic short cross court volley. As his opponent sprinted to the ball, and just before contact, Mardy yells "come on!" assuming he won the point. Ebden, his opponent immediately looks to the umpire to replay the point. The umpire agrees with Ebden and calls for a replay of the point due to obstruction. Mardy approaches the umpire to argue that his "come on" did not effect the outcome of the point. As always the umpire does not change his mind and tells Mardy that the rules state you can not yell out prior to the point being completed.

As we all remember this is very similar to Serena Williams last year at the US Open.

I watched the point 3 times and every time I feel Mardy called out too early. Ebden had a play on the ball and whether he would have made it or not is irrelevant. The rules are the rules. I have to agree with the umpire on this one.

I'm sure Mardy is more mad at himself today. He should know better then to yell out before the point is over.

What do you think? Was Mardy right wanting the point awarded to him or was the umpire correct?
 
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#2 ·
He was wrong. He almost always is.

He was wrong here, he was wrong to call Gasquet a "***," he was wrong when he instigated conflict with Dimitrov (he was just mad that he was losing), he was wrong when he instigated conflict with Mathieu, and he is wrong everytime that he gossips about another player.

Fish is a truly miserable human being.
 
#6 ·
this.


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#7 ·
He was wrong, I absolutely agree with everyone. Don't know what he was thinking screaming out like that. Was he trying to get into Ebden's head?? If so that back fired horribly.
Heat of the battle I guess you don't think straight. Im sure he was pissed at himself later in the day.

Not like he was winning that match anyways. Ebden was taking it to him but as we've seen if Fish had snuck out the 2nd set things could have turned as they did for Roddick in the 2nd round.
 
#9 ·
Fish was wrong, his yelling out before the point had ended is obstructive and the ump made the right decision.
What his intentions were is irrelevant.
 
#10 ·
He was wrong. Mardy Fish has a tendency to get very bratty when things don't go his way. It's understandable, he's human, tennis is a very hard game, lots of pressure and stress, a lot of players lose it and show an ugly side. Just many of the great ones no how to control it with so many people watching. Appreciate Mardy's honesty to let out his true feelings, instead of being a fake. Fans want to see drama controversy and strong emotions. Fish gave us a show at least. Tennis can be a crying game. Still love ya Mardy you were great in Davis Cup vs. Switzerland!!

When did he call Gasquet a ***??
 
#15 ·
Ebden had a clear play. No debate he was wrong.
 
#19 ·
Ebden had a play. He probably still wouldn't have made it, he probably wasn't hindered by the call, but Fish's call was way too early, and so the umpire's decision was correct.

I can understand Fish not being happy, it probably was a winning shot from him, but don't be a dumbass, wait for the ball to be clearly dead before making any sort of call like that.
 
#31 ·
If Ebden was a pure sportsman who holds sportsmanship in the highest regard, he wouldn't have complained to the umpire because he knew he wasn't gonna make it anyway. Even if the umpire called hindrance, Ebden would have said "No. It's fine. I couldn't make the shot anyway"....

But back in reality, yeah, this.
 
#23 ·
Fish was wrong, but your memory of the point is incorrect also. It wasnt breakpoint, but 40-40. And umpire didnt replay the point, he gave it to Ebden.AFTER that Fish had to save breakpoint, which he lost. Mardy argued with umpire, he hoped to replay the point, but umpire said it was deliberate hindrance and Ebden won the point.

Fish playing mindgames was pretty stupid, because he knows rules as well as umpire.I´m pretty sure he got hindrance call before, every player experienced it (if not as pro, as kid/junior it happens more often )

It doesnt matter what Ebden would have done with ball without Mardys scream. The very moment Fish shouted , the point was over, what happened later didnt matter at all.
 
#26 ·
Fish was wrong, umpire was right. It was a hindrance because regardless of whether you can't get the ball or not, you can't celebrate until the point is over. Should have kept his mouth shut, but then again, he's American :eek:.
 
#36 ·
Fish was wrong, umpire was right. It was a hindrance because regardless of whether you can't get the ball or not, you can't celebrate until the point is over. Should have kept his mouth shut, but then again, he's American :eek:.
I'm pretty sure screaming right after hitting a clean winner (when opponent has no chance of getting to the ball) doesn't (and shouldn't) get punished - and is frequently done by the players.
 
#27 ·
He seems to acknowledge his mistake and admit it at least.


From press conference.

Q. Do you think there is any kind of irony there is the hindrance call when people call out, Come on and so forth, but the shrieks and grunting in the game from some of the other players are incredibly loud and can't really tell...
MARDY FISH: Fortunately we don't have that too much on our tour. We don't have to worry about it too much.
No, I certainly was in the wrong, but it was an honest mistake. I mean, it was just‑‑ I thought I hit a good shot, and it wasn't good enough, I guess.

Q. Does the chair umpire have the rules flexibility to say...
MARDY FISH: He does. I think he does.

Q. That's not my reading of it. It's different with the slams and the ATP.

Q. There's not too much leeway in there.

MARDY FISH: Yeah. Okay. Well, he has a right to say whether he thought I hindered though, correct?

Q. Basically my reading of it says that if you intended to say come on, then that's a point penalty. It's not that flexible.
MARDY FISH: Okay. Well, he made it seem like it was the other way, that he was 100% sure that I had an effect on the shot. So that's fine. I think the rule is a little off, but it was my mistake.
 
#28 ·
Since it is unnatural for all MTF to agree on an issue, I'll have to say that Fish was right. :lol:
 
#32 ·
Mardy's an idiot, it would be one thing if he had yelled AS Ebden was hitting the ball, but he literally yells WAY beforehand. he yells out when Ebden is running mid-court and seconds pass after Fish's loud noise. it was just a foolish thing to do and for all we know it did affect Ebden's hit on the ball. Matthew certainly seemed upset after hitting the ball from the noice as he glanced and yelled at the ump.

Ebden managed to direct the ball towards the net from an awkward angle so who's to say without the noise and a little more concentration, he couldn't have hit it in?

I used to like Fish a lot because I thought he was a class act, but over the past few years, ironically as he has risen up the rankings and has gotten into 'shape', his personality has gotten worse and he begun to become a clown that has a horrible personality.

hopeful he tumbles in the rankings, because a player with his class does not deserve success
 
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