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Do you Believe in God and in Heaven?

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#1 ·
I was watching The Jay Leno show the other night, and he brought in some famous female new reporter (I forget her name to be quite honest), who said that she was doing a report on asking famous people (politicians, actors, etc) if they believed in Heaven. She also said one stat that quite simply baffled me: "90% of Americans believe in God" and the majority of them believed in an after life. To me, its imply amazing that in the 21'st century people continue to be religous.

Religion is one of the Biggest causes of war,hatred and segregation. I am not only talking about the middle east, I am also talking about events in history,etc.

I do not believe that God exists, because of obvious reasons such as: the problem of evil, biblical paradoxes, etc.

With that, I also state that I do not believe in Heaven, nor any form of after life.

Opinions?
 
#28 ·
zine56 said:
...i believe wars are caused by people and the fanatics ... not by Religions ;)... like Sparko said "Human nature corrupts the true message of most religions"
i agree with you on this point

yes, me i believe in god and the life after death
 
#33 ·
Geniey2g said:
I believe in both; not just because I'm a Christian, but there is too much evidence/signs of the times not to.
Typical Christian nonsense talk, trying to see a God, even in the midst of barbarism. The logical conclusion to draw from the signs of the times is that there is no God, just a devil or nothing.
 
#35 ·
:D

religion is the source of good and evil in people. But we only hear about the evil because it is more newsworthy and shocking. Being generous and kind is not surprising, but being evil is.

Sparko1030 said:
Yes, I do believe in God and in a Heaven. And I am not ignorant and backwards. I have two degrees, one in botony (yes, I also beleive in evolution). I do not agrue that religion has been and is the cause of so much evil and suffering in the world. Human nature corrupts the true message of most religions but that does not mean God does not exisist. Religion has also been the source of much that is good in our world also... (one example that comes to mind is the abolitionist movement in the 1800's and the Civil Rights movement with MLKing-who was inspired by Ghandi-both had roots in organized religion)

I am not a theologan so I would be out of my league arguing the finer points as to whether a God exists or not, but what I do know is that I feel him in my heart. And I know that sounds stupid to someone who has not experieced it but that is the best answer I can give.
 
#36 ·
I am my own God. Or Godess. I worship myself. I focus on making things happen for myself, instead of looking to god to make it happen. Pray to God to make you a better tennis player, it won't work. Practice everyday, it may work.
 
#37 ·
I look at it like this: Take paper for example. Most would agree that paper did not just appear; it was man made from other things. If I were to tell you, "The bit of paper in my hand came into exsistence just like that," none of you would believe it. If you aren't able to accept something as small and simple as paper to have been in exsistence since the beginning without it being created from other things, how can you be ready to accept something of such a grand design (the universe, for you idiots out there) was not created by something else?

That's just how I see it.
 
#40 ·
guille&tati4life said:
I do not believe there is a God or an after life. I don't see any good reason to believe it :shrug:

If there is a God then he must have a rather twisted sense of humour with all the suffering in the world.
There are reasons, but earlier posters are right...there is no logical way to decide where you stand on these issues.

Someone famous wrote, "God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain; it is his megaphone to rouse a deaf world."
 
#41 ·
Kristen said:
I find it easier to believe in Jesus than God. I don't know what to think regarding heaven... that part disinterests me somewhat. If we die and rot, then that's fine by me...it's the easiest theory to believe (it's proven, anyway).

The way I look at religion (which I loathe) is as more of a spiritual thing rather than an organised set of rules you need to follow or practice. I'm more interested in trying to lead a decent life and 'Do Unto Others' etc.

I suppose that what I have is 'hope' that there's something out there. I call myself agnostic, because I don't know what to believe, but I do hope there's something more. I couldn't disbelieve in God because of the 'The world's f*cked up, what kind of asshole God would do that?' idea. I'm quite sure we've done that to ourselves.
Interesting thoughts. I like that you're not too focused on the after-life. Too many believers focus on the after-life, instead of making this life better.

I'm not a huge defender of organized religion. Or one uniform morality. I think that God sometimes wants us to do things that might not fit a strict moral code.
 
#44 ·
One more thought...

Science is also a religion. Much of scientific thought cannot be proved (or in other cases understood by most), yet people believe in it. There are many things in life that we have to have belief in, because there is no proof. Or we don't understand the proof.

Thanks to everyone who has posted, and for limiting the name-calling and petty insults. I think the world can benefit, right now, from people sharing their beliefs in a non-aggressive way.
 
#46 ·
uglyamerican said:
One more thought...

Science is also a religion. Much of scientific thought cannot be proved (or in other cases understood by most), yet people believe in it. There are many things in life that we have to have belief in, because there is no proof. Or we don't understand the proof.
Methinks you do not understand science. The whole purpose of science is to prove things. Sure, there is theory, but the proof of the theory is what we call science.
 
#47 ·
God means good in Sweden and Heaven is a gay nightclub in London.

Yes, those 2 things exist, but as for the religious stuff the answer is no.
 
#48 ·
uglyamerican said:
Thanks to everyone who has posted, and for limiting the name-calling and petty insults. I think the world can benefit, right now, from people sharing their beliefs in a non-aggressive way.
yeah... speaking about that.. :confused:... i just got a bad rep just for say my opinion..WTF is that!!! :mad:

from Jim Jomes, here it is:

"Christianity is a far superior religion to islam. Estimate yourself lucky that columbus discovered the Americas and not Saladin. Otherwise the whole region would be unstable. Long live Christianity!"


if u think a religion who admits pedofiles it's better than others you must be reaaaaally stupid... :eek:
 
#49 ·
zine56 said:
yeah... speaking about that.. :confused:... i just got a bad rep just for say my opinion..WTF is that!!! :mad:

from Jim Jomes, here it is:

"Christianity is a far superior religion to islam. Estimate yourself lucky that columbus discovered the Americas and not Saladin. Otherwise the whole region would be unstable. Long live Christianity!"


if u think a religion who admits pedofiles it's better than others you must be reaaaaally stupid... :eek:
Talking about stupidity, ugly american must be really happy with you posting my pm on his thread. You just proved him wrong.
Give my regards to your pedophile family in Chile. Have you told them that they are pedophiles for being Christians? Oh and I am sure that your Dad should be able to tell you how to spell pedophile. :lol:
One more thing I am agnostic.
 
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