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11-19-2009 11:18 AM
duong
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

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Originally Posted by scoobs View Post
I gather he had a little bit of a niggle around his groin - just a bit of pain from overexerting it on his comeback. But it was nothing serious and he expects to be fine for London next week.
thank you : it's seldom I can see a player having a suffering face after some points so often in a match, and repeatedly for two weeks.

I just found it very strange
11-19-2009 07:59 AM
scoobs
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

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I understand that, but my question was only about what he suffers about : I've seen him suffering a lot about his leg in his matches since Valencia, and I cannot be the only one who has seen that, it was so obvious

what's this problem ?
I gather he had a little bit of a niggle around his groin - just a bit of pain from overexerting it on his comeback. But it was nothing serious and he expects to be fine for London next week.
11-18-2009 10:58 PM
duong
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

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Originally Posted by tedlesurfeur View Post
No, Valencia was his firt tournament since the injury. The fact he actually won it is truly awesome.
Furthermore, the level he reached in Valencia and Paris with so few matches under his belt is quite impressive. With almost no preparation, Andy can win anything.
In Paris, he partly (mainly, in my opinion) lost his match because of a bad scheduling / order of play.
The tournament organiser said he was sorry about their not having more tennis courts in Bercy.
I understand that, but my question was only about what he suffers about : I've seen him suffering a lot about his leg in his matches since Valencia, and I cannot be the only one who has seen that, it was so obvious

what's this problem ?
11-18-2009 06:02 PM
tedlesurfeur
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

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Hello

I've watched Murray in Valencia and Paris and was puzzled by him looking as suffering again and again, seemingly inguinal fold or thigh, I don't know, but he had a suffering face many times between points.

But yet it didn't prevent him from playing points correctly and he didn't ask for injury time-outs.

Yet I'm puzzled about that and surprised nobody talks about it : what's this problem ?
No, Valencia was his firt tournament since the injury. The fact he actually won it is truly awesome.
Furthermore, the level he reached in Valencia and Paris with so few matches under his belt is quite impressive. With almost no preparation, Andy can win anything.
In Paris, he partly (mainly, in my opinion) lost his match because of a bad scheduling / order of play.
The tournament organiser said he was sorry about their not having more tennis courts in Bercy.
11-18-2009 08:05 AM
duong
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

Hello

I've watched Murray in Valencia and Paris and was puzzled by him looking as suffering again and again, seemingly inguinal fold or thigh, I don't know, but he had a suffering face many times between points.

But yet it didn't prevent him from playing points correctly and he didn't ask for injury time-outs.

Yet I'm puzzled about that and surprised nobody talks about it : what's this problem ?
11-16-2009 06:33 PM
tedlesurfeur
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

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I agree with Caujolle here, I think Andy would have won against Radek considering the fact he finished his match at 2 am... but the thing is it was a poor scheduling from them too, they should have put the Safin- Del Potro match on Tuesday instead of Wednesday...but that's my opinion and it's in the past now so...
I concur. That's why I was so pissed off.
11-16-2009 04:57 PM
amdany
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

I agree with Caujolle here, I think Andy would have won against Radek considering the fact he finished his match at 2 am... but the thing is it was a poor scheduling from them too, they should have put the Safin- Del Potro match on Tuesday instead of Wednesday...but that's my opinion and it's in the past now so...
11-16-2009 11:40 AM
decrepitude
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

Just to hark back to Paris - interesting words from the Paris Tournament Director, in The Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...fset=12&page=2

Murray attracts praise in defeat

Jean-Francois Caujolle, tournament director of the BNP Paribas Masters, singled out Andy Murray for special praise at his end-of-event review and disclosed that next year there could be a dramatic change to the format in Paris. There is a powerful case, Caujolle believes, for the tournament to become a 32 rather than 48 man draw - "for it is quite normal that the draws become progressively smaller in order to arrive towards the Masters where there are only eight players."

He said Murray had been a victim of the current numbers and the consequent pressure it places on scheduling with only one court at the Palais Omnisport of a standard required for an event of this prestige. "[Murray] ended one match on Wednesday at 1.45am and there had been a real problem with the scheduling that day because we had six matches to play on he Centre Court," Caujolle said. The problem had been exacerbated by Marat Safin's three set loss to Juan Martin Del Potro, after which there was an extended retirement celebration for the Russian that put another spanner in the works.

"The next day Murray had to play on Court No 1 (against Radek Stepanek) and sincerely I believe he would not have lost that match if it had been on the Centre. He was a victim of those problems we have with a tournament with 48 players. He was extremely decent and said nothing about it. He just said the other player was better than him."

Caujolle revealed that his plans for a reduction in draw size would be put to the ATP Board next week. He also declared that an ATP 250 tournament would be scheduled in the same week as Paris next year - "so we are not only guaranteeing the existing jobs of the players but creating new ones," he said. "I trust it will be possible."
11-14-2009 09:21 PM
tedlesurfeur
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

I will second that. May he win though.
11-13-2009 06:25 PM
Jess22
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

So win or lose all matches, London can only be good Looking forward to watching anyways
11-13-2009 12:20 PM
Andi-M
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

Tanked cos Andy wants to win the real French Open ...

London will be good. If he gets his 'nice' assed kicked by everyone than thats good because it will hurt him and FORCE him to alter his game.

I thought the loss to Cilic might have done something to him but I think he blames injury rather than his gameplan but it was a mixture of both.

Anyway Murray always said he wants to be no 1 in the world and WHEN he drops to 5 he will HOPEFULLY realise that he is going in the WRONG direction and has do things a little differently.

Saying that I still think the way he plays will be good enough to keep top 5 cos nando, tsonga, soderling, davydenko roddick too inconsistant.

Were criticising him after winning 6 titles in a season. We're a tough crowd.
11-12-2009 07:30 PM
scoobs
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris?

I hope he does look at his game because I think the emphasis on his fitness can only bring so many returns and I'm not sure there's too much more that that can deliver that it hasn't already. I think the off season emphasis this year should be less time training and more time on court retooling his game.
11-12-2009 07:08 PM
Jess22
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris?

Hopefully he goes forward next year, I just don't think still after all that has happened this year that he's actually looking at his game and taking it forwards we'll see after off-season I guess. Anyways I'm glad he's not gone too far in Bercy he can get rested for London, hope he plays well there
11-12-2009 07:05 PM
Corey Feldman
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris?

should have fired that f'en team after RG like i said

his game has been garbage and its not gotten any better
11-12-2009 07:04 PM
scoobs
Re: Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris?

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ive not seen anything go so far backwards since Marty McFly travelled from 1985 to 1955 in Back to the Future II
i wouldn't go that far. but i think he does try and use his legs and his defense to win him matches more than he was doing back in that period, and i don't think that's good long-term.
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