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05-02-2009 02:53 AM
vamosinator
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

A lot of Nadal fans are very ungrateful to admonish Nadal for not playing perfect. I personally just feel very grateful Nadal gives 100% and never gives up, that is something just about every other fan can't say about their favorite players.

Perfect can wait a few more years, this year is about peaking in September. This year is about reducing topspin and developing that flat backhand, not getting back into old habits of high net clearance. You have to understand the big picture before you criticize Nadal's clay game.

And if you still criticize you've got to accept that you aren't a true fan, more a fair-weather fan who only accepts perfection and doesn't accept nor understand what Nadal is trying to do this season; because this year isn't about the French Open.
05-02-2009 01:10 AM
iSzavay.
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

Too bad for Nando, not quite as exciting as the AO . Rafa is just so good though.
05-02-2009 01:06 AM
Clay Death
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

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Originally Posted by theRAFA View Post
I don't mean he's looking at the US Open now I mean he knows the French Open isn't when he needs his best form to win, so he shouldn't care if he's not hitting the ball perfectly, he doesn't need to hit the ball perfectly. He's about to win his 3rd straight clay event and his fans are complaining, you have to get some perspective of whats important, winning or being perfect? Winning is all that matters. And I don't agree about the claycourt game finetuning his game for other surfaces, it didn't help the US Open in previous years and frankly I don't think it helped Wimbledon since the slice is a huge part of Wimbledon and plays no real part at RG (and the serve is the focus at Wimbledon, not so at RG).

negative. first of all, you need to believe what you want to believe.

secondly, its not all about a slice at Wimby. as far as slices go, he has one of the worst sliced backhands for a top player that i have ever seen.

so forget about the slice. that is not where its at old sport.

its the hightly tuned up ground game, the confidence, and the momentum that he carries straight to the grass at Wimbledon once he leaves Roland Garros. it all happens for him on clay. he just extends his ground game mastery to grass.

keep in mind that he doesnt exactly have the best serve around and his return game on quicker surfaces has been relatively weak for a top player.

so it has to be his ground game and his wheels and his relentless will. that is all he has to offer and it often proves to be more than enough for the opposition. his defense is air tight and his offense is in the deadly topspin off both wings. its relentless heavy topspin that never ends. and when on, he can pass you like a demon.

also topspin allows you create really sick angles.

now about the u.s open, he is usally spent and often injured by the time he arrives at flushing meadow. only he can fix that problem.

he did say that by the time he arrived at Flushing Meadow last year, he was nearly dead. i believe him.

one final word about grass: he has learned to make some adjustments on grass and he is also learning to return better on grass so that makes things a little more difficult for his opposition.
05-02-2009 12:49 AM
vamosinator
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

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Originally Posted by Clay Death View Post
i dont think he thinks that far ahead. he is "living in the moment" type of a player.

also its clay that makes him as tough as he is. clay fine tunes his ground game and furnishes him with the confidence to spank the rest of the world not only clay but also on other surfaces.

clay is the wellspring from which he flows.
I don't mean he's looking at the US Open now I mean he knows the French Open isn't when he needs his best form to win, so he shouldn't care if he's not hitting the ball perfectly, he doesn't need to hit the ball perfectly. He's about to win his 3rd straight clay event and his fans are complaining, you have to get some perspective of whats important, winning or being perfect? Winning is all that matters. And I don't agree about the claycourt game finetuning his game for other surfaces, it didn't help the US Open in previous years and frankly I don't think it helped Wimbledon since the slice is a huge part of Wimbledon and plays no real part at RG (and the serve is the focus at Wimbledon, not so at RG).
05-02-2009 12:38 AM
Clay Death
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

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Originally Posted by MrsFedex View Post
thanks for the info CD

still, no matter what form (or mental condition) Rafa is in, he's untouchable on clay right now and I have absolute confidence in his abilities
affirmative.
05-02-2009 12:37 AM
Clay Death
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

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I don't think clay perfection is the goal of this year, this clay season is the chance for Nadal to rest his mind and not have to care for finding his best form, his best form is intended for the US Open this year.

i dont think he thinks that far ahead. he is "living in the moment" type of a player.

also its clay that makes him as tough as he is. clay fine tunes his ground game and furnishes him with the confidence to spank the rest of the world not only clay but also on other surfaces.

clay is the wellspring from which he flows.
05-02-2009 12:34 AM
Arkulari
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

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actually his uncle said after Monte Carlo that his nephew was a little low on confidence.

his serve and his return game is way off. he has time to figure things out. winning usually cures all the ills.
thanks for the info CD

still, no matter what form (or mental condition) Rafa is in, he's untouchable on clay right now and I have absolute confidence in his abilities
05-02-2009 12:32 AM
vamosinator
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

I don't think clay perfection is the goal of this year, this clay season is the chance for Nadal to rest his mind and not have to care for finding his best form, his best form is intended for the US Open this year.
05-02-2009 12:30 AM
Clay Death
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

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Originally Posted by MrsFedex View Post
Rafa likes to give OTHERS the heavy balls, that's why he hits with so much topspin, but as everyone else, he prefers to get lighter ones

and as for the speed, as long as it is red clay, Rafa feels at home, no matter how slow or fast it is

you're right, Rafa isn't bringing his A-game yet, but I guess he's learning to curb himself, to save his strength and power for when he needs them the most and that's a good thing on the long run, maybe he won't burn out so young

actually his uncle said after Monte Carlo that his nephew was a little low on confidence.

his serve and his return game is way off. he has time to figure things out. winning usually cures all the ills.
05-02-2009 12:30 AM
vamosinator
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

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Originally Posted by aferlo View Post
Not a good match. Perhaps they know each other too much, or Verdasco was hitting the ball very hard, but Nadal´s game was far from yesterdays. I´m sure he will recover confidence tomorrow, but his performance raises some questions about his possibilities in this championship, but not in RG.
He's about to win his 3 straight clay event by only dropping one set, it doesn't get better than that.
05-02-2009 12:26 AM
Arkulari
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

Rafa likes to give OTHERS the heavy balls, that's why he hits with so much topspin, but as everyone else, he prefers to get lighter ones

and as for the speed, as long as it is red clay, Rafa feels at home, no matter how slow or fast it is

you're right, Rafa isn't bringing his A-game yet, but I guess he's learning to curb himself, to save his strength and power for when he needs them the most and that's a good thing on the long run, maybe he won't burn out so young
05-02-2009 12:21 AM
Guy Haines
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

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Originally Posted by sphiie View Post
Rafael's reaction after his match against Verdasco :

"Yesterday, the conditions were very different. The court was slow, the balls were heavy. There, nothing to do. I admit that I prefer to play in the today's conditions. [/url]
Most peculiar. I thought the conditions were tailored specifically to Nadal's wishes at all times: slow courts and heavy balls.

Also peculiar that he says he prefers when the ball isn't so heavy on clay. More MTF wisdom out the window.

This was not a very good match. Outside of major finals (and sometimes in them) it's kinda common for the quality to crash after the same players have played a classic in their previous encounter.

Nadal is not anywhere near as aggressive or assured right now as he was at Roland Garros last year. That's some cause for concern. But this is Italy.

Verdasco hit some great forehands in a manner that at least showed how clueless Soderling is when it comes to using power. But that isn't enough on clay against the Nadal wall.
05-01-2009 10:34 PM
FlameOn
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

Oh well, another good tournament for Nando. I hope his knee thing isn't too serious (he seems to be prone to small injuries that heal in like a week ).

Can't read too much into a loss to Nadal on clay.
05-01-2009 09:49 PM
sphiie
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

Rafael's reaction after his match against Verdasco :

"Yesterday, the conditions were very different. The court was slow, the balls were heavy. There, nothing to do. I admit that I prefer to play in the today's conditions. But it is the change which is not evident. I had played very well against Soderling and there... I didn't played my best tennis. I made faults, especially in the second set. Many faults. The first set was ok. But after, honestly, I was lucky he (Verdasco) failed on the important points.

The big diference with yesterday, it's that I played more aggressive on difficult moments. And to be more aggressive, that's exactly what I have to do during the semi-final.

Today, I was 2 or 3 meters behind my line (la ligne de fond). I have to be more inside the court if i want to play better, don't you think? That's the trick. The most important thing for me at present."

Here en French : http://www.welovetennis.fr/masters-r...-plus-agressif
05-01-2009 09:19 PM
Arkulari
Re: Rome QF: Nadal def. Verdasco 6-3 6-3

Nando was in pain, couldn't focus really well
Rafa did what he had to do and he didn't want to rip Nando a new one like he did to Toad
Tomorrow is Feña, let's see how close or how easy Rafa will win
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