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05-04-2009 10:37 PM
Dini
Re: *The Italian Open 2009 Thread*

Can we unsticky this now, please? Carlita?
05-04-2009 10:18 PM
tennisfan444
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Originally Posted by RogiFan88 View Post
the only upside to this predictable tournament is that someone else is now losing to the ochre ogre in finals... let's see who loses to TFA in Madrid (if he doesn't w/d or retire or sth) and RG... back to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Well said!
05-04-2009 05:40 PM
RogiFan88
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the only upside to this predictable tournament is that someone else is now losing to the ochre ogre in finals... let's see who loses to TFA in Madrid (if he doesn't w/d or retire or sth) and RG... back to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
05-04-2009 04:38 PM
tennisfan444
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Originally Posted by lunahielo View Post
Win or lose (of course winning is better), I love to see him play..Hopefully his tennis career will continue for a long time.
Well said
05-04-2009 03:09 PM
SUKTUEN
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Originally Posted by lunahielo View Post
Win or lose (of course winning is better), I love to see him play..Hopefully his tennis career will continue for a long time.
05-04-2009 02:50 PM
lunahielo
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Win or lose (of course winning is better), I love to see him play..Hopefully his tennis career will continue for a long time.
05-04-2009 08:09 AM
MrChopin
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Originally Posted by clever1980 View Post
But Basel is at the end of the year.
Oops. I meant Halle.

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roger obviously doesnt need to retire despite the call of many as he still has game to compete with everyone. but it really does seem it has been a long long time since federer won close matches against his main rivals.
It does feel that way, but such a stat recalls the talk of his poor five-setter records, highlighting the general summary: you have Roger on a bad day if its close. I'm not saying that's the way it has been recently, but at USO '08, he beat both Murray and Djokovic rather convincingly, and ignoring such seems foolish, especially as that is the only time they have played at a slam in ~1.5 years.
05-04-2009 07:11 AM
tennis2tennis
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~I want Toger to approach RG with a 'ah what the hell' attitude...he should be carefree, the onus will be on rafa yet again and because of his season so far being crap, he should play relaxed tennis that he's capable of
05-04-2009 06:23 AM
crude oil
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roger obviously doesnt need to retire despite the call of many as he still has game to compete with everyone. but it really does seem it has been a long long time since federer won close matches against his main rivals.

at the worst, there will be opportunities to win slams for federer when his three main rivals have lost, not 100% or are injured.

roger is working on his game but he needs to work his tactics and brain too.
05-03-2009 07:12 PM
clever1980
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Originally Posted by MrChopin View Post
Winning Basel would be a start. Look at the Nadal heartbreaks and drubbings he took last year during clay, then the Wimbledon loss. He won Olympic doubles and it turned all of that around. Sure, his -current- state is pretty soft, but it was the same way last year after Wimbledon.
But Basel is at the end of the year.
05-03-2009 07:04 PM
MrChopin
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Originally Posted by oneandonlyhsn View Post
With each defeat his self-confidence takes a further nose dive. For him to win the us open or wimby he still has to defeat atleast one of rafa, andy or nole, and they all know exactly how to play him in his current status. I am glad he is acknowledging his problems but i wish he would get some help. His game might have improved but when push comes to shove he cant hack it against the top players. (Roddick doesnt count)
Winning Basel would be a start. Look at the Nadal heartbreaks and drubbings he took last year during clay, then the Wimbledon loss. He won Olympic doubles and it turned all of that around. Sure, his -current- state is pretty soft, but it was the same way last year after Wimbledon.
05-03-2009 06:15 PM
oneandonlyhsn
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Go figure, the final was televised and not the semi. I am joining the Mikey bandwagon in being glad that he was not in the final. Poor nole he fought so bravely and the match was a lot closer than the scoreline suggests
05-03-2009 04:59 PM
Sapeod
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Federer He did better than last year here, but it's nearing Roland Garros and the grass season.
05-03-2009 04:22 PM
Mrs. B
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05-03-2009 03:21 PM
rofe
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i hope you are kidding. federer was 2/100000 bps in this match precisely because he played conservatively. he chipped returns back and play not to lose rather than play the same way that got him to the bps.
I am not. He needs to get back mental focus. Grinding points will help him with that and as I said, it is going to be temporary.

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he was striking the ball well in the first set for the most part with his fh.

nobody is advocating federer play like gonzalez or try to smash the ball. but perhaps could federer run around djokovic's second serve and hit a nice fh topspin deep in the court on the BP. no he instead chipped it and djokovic killed him. djokovic isnt a club player - he wont make those kind of mistakes.

could federer also have stepped back and try to his some full bh topspin rather than chip the ball. he can do attempt it on a second serve bp...i saw him make several on regular pts today with success.
For him to use his drive BH on returns, he does need to step back and he has been unwilling to do so for whatever reason. He is forced to use the chip return simply because he doesn't have time to take a swing while he is so close to the baseline.
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