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Yesterday 10:15 PM
Kateoz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

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Originally Posted by RustyOz View Post
Not a good result. Pretty close score-line.

What has happened to his "super coach" that was attributed to his sharp rise in ranking/ability?

The coach gets all the accolades on the way up, the player cops the blame on the way down...
Shares him with Kokk now. Perhaps the focus has shifted...

But I'm really not sure you can blame the coach for this level of poor play. Coach helped him get from a challenger level game to one competitive at tour level and looking as if he could potentially be top 50. Now he's back to where he was 2-3 years ago.

Two possibilities - just hasn't recovered from his foot surgery (and at this point not going to); and/or past physical peak. Despite the ageing top pack most players do start declining sharply from around 27-28. I though Sam might play on a bit longer given time out from the game (how long you play seems to be a function of number of matches played for most people) plus dependence of his game on serve rather than other elements, but...
Yesterday 10:12 PM
Manu_ser
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

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Originally Posted by bennydee619 View Post
I heared about his big win against Mark Philippoussis and thought he deserves his own thread. So here it is.
Funny that this thread started in 2007 mentions a win over Philippoussis while they never played against each other in an official match.
Yesterday 10:00 PM
RustyOz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Not a good result. Pretty close score-line.

What has happened to his "super coach" that was attributed to his sharp rise in ranking/ability?

The coach gets all the accolades on the way up, the player cops the blame on the way down...
Yesterday 01:16 PM
Sam21
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Lost 6-7(3) 7-6(4) 7-5 to local wildcard Ji Sung Nam in Busan. He's really lost his edge in tiebreaks this year, today's match gives him a W/L ratio of 2/10
03-31-2016 09:14 PM
Kateoz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

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Originally Posted by azza View Post
Every year an aussie has a massive fail

2014 Ebden
2015 Matosevic
2016 Groth
It's called getting old (in tennis years).

The hard reality is that despite the longevity of some of the current top ten, the people who go on forever like Hewitt and Federer are the extreme exceptions not the norm (and of course Hewitt declined sharply from the mid 2000s as we all know) - most players start declining at around 26-27, and that is more likely to happen faster for journeymen compared to top players.

There are for example currently 238 players with ranking points born in 1995 (Nick Kyrgios' group).

There are 81 born in 1987 (Ebden and Groth year).

There are only 52 born in 1985 (Matosevic's year).

That doesn't explain Duckworth of course!
03-31-2016 07:53 PM
scotthongkong
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

and James Duckworth is heading southwards with a rocket this year as well. He seems incapable of staying fresh and healthy for any length of time. Hopefully Sam cuts out all the Newcombe medal, Kia ad hype and gets some results on the board.
03-31-2016 10:00 AM
azza
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Every year an aussie has a massive fail

2014 Ebden
2015 Matosevic
2016 Groth
03-31-2016 07:35 AM
Arsenalex
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

This thread should be renamed: Sam Groth, the Soon-To-Be Forgotten Australian.
03-31-2016 07:13 AM
Kateoz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

And goes down in first round of Leon challenger to Ghem...gah.
03-25-2016 07:19 PM
Ausie
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Grothy lost to Thiem 5-7 2-6 and he'll arrive to Mexico next week.
03-24-2016 08:26 AM
B.kelly123
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Thank goodness - such a relief to see Sam win a match after his rotten run, especially at Masters level.
03-23-2016 10:31 PM
Ritz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Good to see Grothy win, hopefully this snowballs into something. I definitely have faith in him to beat Thiem. Go grothy!
03-23-2016 07:17 PM
Arsenalex
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

First serve% and net points won need improvement, as they have all year.

96% won on first serve suggests first serve in% could be important against Thiem
03-23-2016 07:15 PM
Arsenalex
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

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Originally Posted by Kateoz View Post
Good to see him going back to challengers - desperately needs some points!
25 precious points as Sam finally wins at M1000! 6-3 6-2 over Estrella Burgos. Sam returned really well. Hopefully this signals a change in fortune.

Next up Thiem. Though a long shot (on Thiem's good surface) Sam's chances are higher than one might think... Thiem struggles to best the likes of Kovalik, Pella and many low ranked players, even in the form of his life. I think how Sam plays on return will be important again
03-23-2016 07:14 PM
Ausie
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Good win by Sam over Estrella Burgos 6-3 6-2, he showed good level!



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