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05-22-2008 10:51 AM
Truc
Re: Guille in Casablanca

Just saw that in GM, for those who missed the last set:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...ostcount=10552
I haven't downloaded it, I don't know how bad the quality is.
05-22-2008 01:26 AM
daze11
Re: Guille in Casablanca

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Originally Posted by allero View Post
Oh and about the point daze made concerning the french crowd: Pretty much every time Guille played in RG and it was shown on TV here the majority of the crowd would support his opponent. The most extreme case was the semi in 2004. But whatever...it is a special place for Guille and it always will be.
yeah, i've heard it in many contexts that the french announcers were always criticizing him abd that the crowds were cold to him there.

the romance of the french open is in his mind, as the premier showcase for clay court tennis. This is understandable but i dont think it is france he likes.
05-21-2008 10:32 PM
allero
Re: Guille in Casablanca

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Originally Posted by Guille's Girl View Post
I know he had that issue with Clement (which was hilarious), but I didn't know the French didn't like him...I knew the Germans didn't like him But maybe that was just the press I'm thinking about (and Kiwi ).

I don't think German press really cared about him all that much to be honest. I guess due to the fact that Boris Becker talked rather negatively of him several years ago such an image might have been created though.

Oh and about the point daze made concerning the french crowd: Pretty much every time Guille played in RG and it was shown on TV here the majority of the crowd would support his opponent. The most extreme case was the semi in 2004. But whatever...it is a special place for Guille and it always will be.
05-21-2008 05:15 PM
daze11
Re: Guille in Casablanca

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Originally Posted by Truc View Post
I wasn't thinking of a player in particular, it was more a general impression. Former French players commenting on French TV and being pretty harsh with him, or the French players mentioning him when they were asked which players are disliked on the tour (PHM again in a chat not so long ago), etc.
he was not popular with the french crowd either, as we should easily recall from 04 RG. which is funny, because his finicky elitism is a mirror of french people. but they dont like cats either, when they are totally cats. and they love dogs, when they are totally the opposite of dogs... i happen to love the french and france. but i happen to love guille ...and cats...so i know they're all similar. french = guille = cats.
05-21-2008 03:05 PM
Truc
Re: Guille in Casablanca

I wish you would have seen it, some of his reactions were adorable.
When he missed a FH in the TB during a rallye he was actually in control of, he stayed like that for a while:

He was so touching. He really had a nice intensity again in his reactions too.
05-21-2008 02:41 PM
Guille's Girl
Re: Guille in Casablanca

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Originally Posted by Truc View Post
Really great, a posteriori, that he kept fighting after a terrible first set, he must have felt awful, knowing he still has the game in him and being unable to show it.
I was very impressed by the improvements in his game, but also in the attitude.
Even in the TB, he choked a little bit, sure, but he was still trying, he was so cute to see.

I know he often says he's playing great in training, but I wasn't sure if it was just blabla.
But really, the French guys have no reason to flatter him, so it must be true Devilder was so impressed by him in training in November already, etc.
Aww I wish I could've seen. Still even your description is almost as good.
For me the best points in the match were in the last set when held at love, broke for 5-5, and then held a duece game. That showed some mental toughness. It's there, and now it's coming out

Ok he and Rojer just lost the doubles match 3-6, 6-7 (3-7).
05-21-2008 02:35 PM
Sommarsverige
Re: Guille in Casablanca

Thanks Fran for posting this article

I must say since yesterday I am also very positive towards Guilles comeback and I think it is just a matter of time I mean seen from his game he definitely should have won the match yesterday, if it wasn´t for the double faults in bad situations...

I am really excited to see Guille play in Paris
05-21-2008 02:32 PM
Guille's Girl
Re: Guille in Casablanca

Thanks for the article Fran!! Sounds great. I hope Guille's "coach" understands as much. I actually thought his forehand looked better than the back hand. Gicquels coach said it was "fast", but it seemed to have a bit of pop to it. In anycase, best match in a long long while.
I know he had that issue with Clement (which was hilarious), but I didn't know the French didn't like him...I knew the Germans didn't like him But maybe that was just the press I'm thinking about (and Kiwi ).

I'm shocked he had the energy and desire to play doubles in the same day, and upset the #1 seeds @.@ Yeah, this is pretty exciting stuff when is the next match? oh they're playing now heh. Down a set, down "break point" (as in doubles, duece is game point and break point [dumb]) in the 2nd, 5-5...hold for 6-5
05-21-2008 02:32 PM
Truc
Re: Guille in Casablanca

Really great, a posteriori, that he kept fighting after a terrible first set, he must have felt awful, knowing he still has the game in him and being unable to show it.
I was very impressed by the improvements in his game, but also in the attitude.
Even in the TB, he choked a little bit, sure, but he was still trying, he was so cute to see.

I know he often says he's playing great in training, but I wasn't sure if it was just blabla.
But really, the French guys have no reason to flatter him, so it must be true Devilder was so impressed by him in training in November already, etc.
05-21-2008 02:31 PM
Truc
Re: Guille in Casablanca

I wasn't thinking of a player in particular, it was more a general impression. Former French players commenting on French TV and being pretty harsh with him, or the French players mentioning him when they were asked which players are disliked on the tour (PHM again in a chat not so long ago), etc.
05-21-2008 02:05 PM
guille&tati4life
Re: Guille in Casablanca

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Thanks for the article, Truc. I haven't read such a positive one on Guille in ages. RG is much better with Guille in it. I'm eagerly awaiting the draw and I'm still undecided if I want him to play a beatable player in the first round (someone like Polansky) or if I want him to draw someone like Federer so us Eurosport viewers can actually follow the match.

By the way Truc: Which are the french players Guille was not popular with? There was the famous incident with Clement of course, but who else?
I seem to remember a run in with Grosjean
05-21-2008 12:40 PM
Mago#01
Re: Guille in Casablanca

Thanks about the article, and thanks all of you that was cheering...
I'm very happy about yesterday match, I think this time is much more certain that he can comeback someway.
Maybe not top ten anymore but I don't really care, top 100 would be very nice for him and for us.
05-21-2008 12:13 PM
allero
Re: Guille in Casablanca

Thanks for the article, Truc. I haven't read such a positive one on Guille in ages. RG is much better with Guille in it. I'm eagerly awaiting the draw and I'm still undecided if I want him to play a beatable player in the first round (someone like Polansky) or if I want him to draw someone like Federer so us Eurosport viewers can actually follow the match.

By the way Truc: Which are the french players Guille was not popular with? There was the famous incident with Clement of course, but who else?
05-21-2008 10:11 AM
fabolous
Re: Guille in Casablanca

thank you very much for the article. it's confirming my opinion about his game - the talent is still there, and eventually the results will come. i mean, three weeks ago he was double bagelled by flavio cipolla, now he is able to compete with gicquel, so improvement can be seen for sure. and his will to come back is strong, he wants to play matches and doesn't quit, good attitude.

btw gicquel seems to be a very nice guy
05-21-2008 07:34 AM
Truc
Re: Guille in Casablanca

There is an article about Guille in L'Equipe today with the French players commenting a bit on him and they're quite impressed. It's worth of notice because he was NOT popular among the Frenchies before.
Patience says that Devilder hit with Guille in Argentina in November and said he was terrific. His game is still there, his only problem is mental.
Gicquel: He's very fast, defends very well, his BH is superb and he hits his serve pretty well. Actually, he only played poorly in key moments. Which shows it's just a matter of time and of confidence.
Tulasne (Simon's coach): From what I've seen yesterday, he seems to have recovered the desire. He still has this incredible movement. He's fighting. His FH isn't so fast, but I mean he was serving well. He doesn't make all these DF anymore. He will be feared in the 1st round of Roland-Garros...
Gicquel: With his game and his talent, there are no reasons he can't be dangerous again. I won thanks to my serve only. Otherwise, he would have shown me the door.

And Guille also means he was surprised himself by his level of game during the whole match and he feels very eager to play, he's happy to be on the court, etc. But there are better sources than L'Equipe for what Guille says, I just wanted to quote what the Frenchies said about him.

Here's the whole article:
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Coria, la route du retour
Battu au tie-break du troisième set par Marc Gicquel, l’Argentin a retrouvé l’envie de jouer. Gare à lui au premier tour à Roland-Garros. CASABLANCA – (MAR) de notre envoyé spécial

N’IMPORTE QUELLE BALLE de match vendangée peut vous pourrir une saison. Alors, imaginez l’effet produit par une paire de balles de match ratées en finale de Roland-Garros… Il y a quatre ans, l’Argentin vivait cette tragédie face à son compatriote Gaston Gaudio. Depuis, malgré une année 2005 assez réussie, il court désespérément derrière ce passé glorieux. Les deux saisons qui suivirent semblent extraites d’un scénario catastrophe. Blessures (épaule, cuisse), déprime et dysfonctionnement technique alimentèrent sa chronique personnelle. Personne n’a oublié le trou sans fond dans lequel le plongea la « double fautite » aiguë qui jalonna son année 2006. Le roi de la terre battue d’avant Nadal n’était plus qu’un fantôme moqué pour sa décrépitude. L’image d’Épinal associe souvent sa dépression à l’immense raté de Roland 2004.
« Monstrueux à l’entraînement »
La vérité est sans doute moins caricaturale. D’abord, parce que Coria réussit une bonne saison 2005,notamment marquée par une inoubliable finale à Rome, perdue 7-6 au cinquième set contre Nadal après cinq heures et quatorze minutes de jeu. Ensuite, parce que ces doubles fautes et la déprime qui s’ensuivit ont sans doute une origine plus prosaïque. Salement touché à une épaule, l’Argentin modifia son geste de service. Il en perdit tous ses repères, à la fois gestuels et mentaux. « C’est comme au golf, explique Thierry Tulasne. On fait une fixette sur le geste et on perd complètement le rythme. » En totale crise de confiance, Coria largua les amarres, en profita pour visiter son pays et se mit en vacances du circuit. Il ne revint réellement aux affaires qu’à l’automne 2007.
Depuis, il tente de redevenir lui-même. Une première victoire sur le grand circuit sur l’Italien Francesco Aldi, en février, à Costa do Sauipe, indiquait qu’il avait pris la route du retour. Cette semaine, il a doublé la mise à Casablanca face à Polansky et manqué de peu, hier, le train des quarts en ne s’inclinant qu’au tie-break du troisième set face à Marc Gicquel.« Je me suis étonné moi-même en gardant le même niveau de jeu du début à la fin, explique-t-il. La vérité, c’est que j’ai très envie de jouer. Je suis heureux d’être sur le terrain. » Cet appétit retrouvé a suffi à redémarrer le moteur. Car, pour le reste, à vingt-six ans, « el Mago » n’a rien perdu de son talent original. « Il va très vite, défend très bien, possède un superbe revers et frappe plutôt pas mal au service, explique Gicquel. En fait, il n’a mal joué (deux doubles fautes et une amortie foireuse dans le jeu décisif) que sur les moments importants. Ça prouve que c’est juste une histoire de temps et de confiance.» «Nicolas Devilder avait tapé avec lui en novembre en Argentine, confirme Olivier Patience. Il était monstrueux à l’entraînement. Il n’a rien perdu de ses coups. Son problème, c’est juste dans la tête. » Qu’il semble avoir désormais recollé sur les épaules. « Sur ce que j’ai vu aujourd’hui (hier), il a l’air d’avoir envie, dit Tulasne. Il a gardé cette incroyable qualité de déplacement. Il est combatif. Sa balle va moins vite en coup droit, mais je trouve qu’il sert bien. Il ne fait plus toutes ces doubles fautes. Il ne sera pas bon à jouer au premier tour de Roland-Garros… »
Car Coria disputera les Internationaux de France. Bénéficiaire d’un classement protégé (105e), il a profité avant-hier du forfait d’Andy Roddick pour se glisser dans le tableau final. « Avec son jeu et son talent, il n’y a aucune raison qu’il ne redevienne pas dangereux, estime Gicquel. Aujourd’hui (hier), je ne gagne que grâce à mon service. Sinon, je passe à la trappe. »Gare au revenant à la patte magique.
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