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10-04-2017 05:42 AM
Mae
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

He is playing in the Stockton CH and he defeated Frederik Loechte Nielsen in straight sets.
09-27-2017 05:53 AM
Transcender
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

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The ultimate example would be everyone's favorite billionaire daddy's boy Ernests Gulbis. Justin Gimelstob reported that Gulbis travels by private jet and doesn't even bother to cash some of his prize money checks. There's a WTA player with a billionaire daddy as well, but I forget the name. Those cases are the exception, however.


Goran Ivanisevic is supposed to launch a website that's basically a GoFundMe for tennis players. It would allow individuals, small businesses, and big corporations to directly fund a player, whether the academy costs of a junior or the travel & coaching expenses of a Future/Challenger-level a player. I have no idea when it's supposed to launch, or if it will even get off the ground, but it sounded like a great idea.

Guys at the Challenger level at least have a chance at breaking even. Futures players, however, are losing money every week. I heard a player say that even if you win both the singles & doubles at a Future, you still won't cover your expenses. Yikes! Then what about all the poor schmoes who lose early??
There are more rich players than you think, there are some pretty regular player on the CH tour who have never made the ATP tour, remember tennis started as a rich person's sport, it still has that identity.
09-27-2017 05:50 AM
rvf35
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Some players come from rich families though, so they don't have any expense issues
The ultimate example would be everyone's favorite billionaire daddy's boy Ernests Gulbis. Justin Gimelstob reported that Gulbis travels by private jet and doesn't even bother to cash some of his prize money checks. There's a WTA player with a billionaire daddy as well, but I forget the name. Those cases are the exception, however.

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There are certainly good players out there who can't travel because they can't afford to though, which is really quite sad.
Goran Ivanisevic is supposed to launch a website that's basically a GoFundMe for tennis players. It would allow individuals, small businesses, and big corporations to directly fund a player, whether the academy costs of a junior or the travel & coaching expenses of a Future/Challenger-level a player. I have no idea when it's supposed to launch, or if it will even get off the ground, but it sounded like a great idea.

Guys at the Challenger level at least have a chance at breaking even. Futures players, however, are losing money every week. I heard a player say that even if you win both the singles & doubles at a Future, you still won't cover your expenses. Yikes! Then what about all the poor schmoes who lose early??
09-27-2017 05:22 AM
Transcender
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

Some players come from rich families though, so they don't have any expense issues.

There are certainly good players out there who can't travel because they can't afford to though, which is really quite sad.
09-27-2017 05:18 AM
rvf35
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Originally Posted by Mae View Post
I have been wondering as I look at these players in the CHs all over the world how do they afford to even go to those places?
Your guess is as good as mine. Tim and all the other guys who entered the Tiburon qualifying took a huge risk because there's no prize money if you lose in qualies. Out of the 32 players in qualifying, only 4 made it to the main draw, so 28 guys incurred all the expense of going to Tiburon CA yet walked away with nothing but a "thanks for playing." Ouch!

A few of the qualifiers get support from their respective tennis federations, but I'm guessing most don't because countries like El Salvador & the Dominican Republic don't have any money to help their players. Also, even federations with deep pockets like the USTA & the LTA direct their player development funds to younger players. Once you get to your mid-20s, that money dries up.

Irish player James McGee wrote some eye-opening articles about just how tough it is coming from a "tennis-poor" country. Tennis federations tend to get their player development funds from the tournaments they own. Obviously, Australia, France, the UK, and the US reap tens of millions from the Slams. Even Tennis Canada makes a hefty profit from the Canadian Masters 1000. But if you're from a country like Ireland, you're out of luck. Whereas players like Taylor Fritz & Alex de Minaur get their coaches, trainers, physios and travel expenses paid for by their federations, players like McGee & Arevalo have to pay for all that out of their own pocket. They have to split rental cars, bunk up in accommodations, and plan their tournaments very carefully to pinch pennies. McGee gets some money thanks to a sponsorship by his local tennis club. He even resorted to a thicker gauge string once to save money (it ended up backfiring, however, because the dead racket response resulted in an arm injury). Each journeyman has his own story of survival. I'm sure the tales they tell are quite colorful.
09-27-2017 04:43 AM
Mae
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

I have been wondering as I look at these players in the CHs all over the world how do they afford to even go to those places?
09-27-2017 01:48 AM
rvf35
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Originally Posted by Mae View Post
I lost track of him. He was playing in a CH in Tiburon, USA. But he was defeated by Denis Kudla in 3 Sets.
I saw parts of the match, which wasn't great. Kudla was struggling with injury & fatigue (took a MTO to get treatment on his right wrist plus he looked pretty out of it in the second set) while Tim struggled with consistency, making a lot of unforced errors off of standard rally balls.

Tim was lucky to get into the main draw as a lucky loser. "Lucky" is right because there is no prize money in qualifying. Yup, if you travel to Tiburon CA, even if you win in the 1R of qualifying but lose in the 2R, you make zero dollars. Ouch! At least by getting into the main draw as a lucky loser, Tim makes $1040, hopefully enough to at least cover expenses.
09-26-2017 11:47 PM
Mae
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

I lost track of him. He was playing in a CH in Tiburon, USA. But he was defeated by Denis Kudla in 3 Sets.
08-31-2017 01:33 AM
Mae
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

However, after getting into the MD at the USO he was defeated by Philipp Kohlschreiber.
08-25-2017 09:13 PM
Mae
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

He defeated Peter Polansky in straight sets.
08-24-2017 11:02 PM
Mae
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

He defeated Raymond Sarmiento in straight sets.
08-24-2017 05:53 AM
Mae
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

I was also very surprised that Tim won. Now if he just doesn't lose to a player ranked that low
08-24-2017 02:17 AM
rvf35
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

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Originally Posted by Mae View Post
He is trying to qualify for the USO and he defeated Quentin Halys in straight sets.
Since Halys can really bang the ball off both sides, I wasn't getting my hopes up for Tim but am very pleasantly surprised that he made it through. Tim's next match is definitely winnable, up against #300 Raymond Sarmiento. Keeping my fingers crossed.
08-24-2017 12:39 AM
Mae
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

He is trying to qualify for the USO and he defeated Quentin Halys in straight sets.
08-12-2017 08:36 PM
Mae
Re: Tim Smyczek Thread

He tried to qualify in Cincy, but lost in the 1st Rd.
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