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01-14-2006 04:22 AM
RickDaStick
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

Qualifiers have been placed in the draw now http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/...s/ms/r1s4.html
01-14-2006 01:11 AM
Pigpen Stinks
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

Gotcha. My bad not knowing of that. Can't believe that wasn't more common knowledge, at least in terms of press coverage. Guess I should have found this site earlier.
01-13-2006 07:53 PM
Deboogle!.
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

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Originally Posted by Pigpen Stinks
Ah, thanks smu. Surprised I didn't hear about that. Was last year the first year they used this formula? And apologies to deb, wasn't trying to be malicious toward poor Andy.
oh! no worries, I did not take it like that. I just get tired of all the 'draw conspiracy theories' sometimes

As Jess said, they've used a formula (though it's changed a few times here and there) for many years.
01-13-2006 07:47 PM
savesthedizzle
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigpen Stinks
Ah, thanks smu. Surprised I didn't hear about that. Was last year the first year they used this formula? And apologies to deb, wasn't trying to be malicious toward poor Andy.

Nope, last year was not the first year they used the formula, they've used it since 2001. Ancic for one has benefitted from it for the past few years.
01-13-2006 07:41 PM
Pigpen Stinks
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

Ah, thanks smu. Surprised I didn't hear about that. Was last year the first year they used this formula? And apologies to deb, wasn't trying to be malicious toward poor Andy.
01-13-2006 07:28 PM
smucav
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

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Originally Posted by Pigpen Stinks
Formula.....really? First I've heard of that. Any idea where it's published,
http://www.menstennisforums.com/318-wimbledon/41619-wimbledon-seeding.html
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and why does it only seem to apply to a small handful of players?
It applies to all seeded players.
01-13-2006 06:46 PM
Pigpen Stinks
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

Formula.....really? First I've heard of that. Any idea where it's published, and why does it only seem to apply to a small handful of players?

I was under the impression that they typically take select players who have had past success on grass and move them up subjectively. Recently guys like Roddick, Grosjean, Henman, and maybe even Tommy J.
01-13-2006 06:28 PM
Deboogle!.
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigpen Stinks
Too bad AO didn't pull what Wimbledon did, and seed Hewitt ahead of Roddick. Probably more justified than putting Roddick ahead of Hewitt there, and would have evened the score. Of course, Hewitt draws Federer's side both times. I don't even particularly care for Lleyton, but it only seems fair that he be on the opposite side, particularly with all the withdrawals.
Uh.. do your research before spouting off. Wimbledon's seeding uses a published formula, it wasn't subjective, they didn't just decide to move people around out of 'fairness' or whatever.
01-13-2006 06:13 PM
dbnumberone
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

1st round matchups, bad luck for players, great for fans!
gasquet/haas
paradorn/kiefer
grosjean/poo
henman/tursonov
malisse/youzhny
ginepri/melzer
dick norman/qualifier
lol, proof there's no justice - these guys draw each other while norman gets a qualifier
01-13-2006 06:06 PM
dbnumberone
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

is there a rule that Kevin Kim draws a qualifier in every tourney?
I bet half his 1st rounders last year were, & gets one in the AO - that's one way to keep your ranking up!
01-13-2006 04:00 PM
Pigpen Stinks
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

Too bad AO didn't pull what Wimbledon did, and seed Hewitt ahead of Roddick. Probably more justified than putting Roddick ahead of Hewitt there, and would have evened the score. Of course, Hewitt draws Federer's side both times. I don't even particularly care for Lleyton, but it only seems fair that he be on the opposite side, particularly with all the withdrawals.
01-13-2006 06:15 AM
superhoops
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

If Murray gets through tricky Chela in Rnd 1 he has Hewitt in Rnd 2. If somehow Heitt pules out or he does get through that match the draw is wide open upto Coria in 1/4 finals.
01-13-2006 12:14 AM
NicoFan
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

I'm soooo happy for both my guys!!! Qualifiers in the first round for Nico and Gonzo!

Second round a bit tougher, but one step at a time.
01-13-2006 12:10 AM
Andre♥
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

Roddick has a hard draw!

After he faces the qualifier, he'll probably face Moodie, Dent and Ginepri!!!
01-13-2006 12:04 AM
Natasc
Re: Main Draw discussion in here

its in Auzie site the Draw
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