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06-26-2013 08:16 PM
Burrow
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

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Originally Posted by Honestly View Post
Roger played well all year last year, except from the USO onward. He played well from the 2011 indoor season onward. So for a year he was playing really well and consistently. I don't see how he played better at Wimbledon or IW. It was the same level throughout. He hasn't lost as much power as you imply. He just hasn't played well since the AO.
I completely disagree. Either you didn't watch him during his prime or you've forgot. He would hit rocket winners from anywhere on the court with the forehand. Any ball which wasn't deep enough or with enough power would be attacked. It was the most lethal groundstroke in tennis.

Against Nadal at Indian Wells, he actually attacked in the manner he used to, whereas today, as I've said doesn't possess the consistent power he once did. During that match, he was hitting the ball harder throughout than as long as I could remember. As for the Murray Wimbledon final, Federer hasn't played a better all-round 3 sets against a big opponent in a pressure situation since Djokovic at Roland Garros and even still, I think Federer played better in the Wimbledon final. He was dictating points more against Murray than he was against Djokovic. Djokovic is hardly a powerhouse and looked to be the man with the easier power in the match. Federer was far from his best, but for the stage of his career he was at, was surprisingly stable in all areas.
06-26-2013 08:07 PM
Johnbert
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

With Nadal and Fed (and tsonga too) out, its now or never for Murray.
06-26-2013 08:02 PM
rocketassist
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

GOATbis is the main obstacle for him in the bottom half.

GOATbis gonna GOAT. I'm not saying this for nothing, it's a prophecy that could be fulfilled here, but at some point it shall.
06-26-2013 08:00 PM
Tag
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

As it turns out, the talented French shotmaker and the Old Diva will not be around

The Tradesman will nonetheless take the trophy
06-26-2013 02:00 AM
guga2120
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

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the tradesman will dismantle the old serve-botting, hair flicking, weather whinging, slam fluking diva in the SF

the gymnast may prove tougher, however he cannot do his infamous backward lunge splits on a real surface like grass

the winner is already decided IMO, lets move onto the US hard court masters already
I agree, he could beat Jo and then the Swiss Miss, in the semifinal. I would not underestimate Novak, on grass. He played not up to his standards last summer, for whatever reason. He can play on grass though, that return of serve is killer to anybody.
06-25-2013 06:31 AM
Johnbert
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

best chance ever... i don't know

he has a nice shot at the title, but his way won't be easy. tsonga, fed, djokovic... he also had a great chance 2009 and 2012. i guess the winner of the bottom semifinal will win the title.
06-25-2013 06:24 AM
Honestly
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

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When the roof closed, I've not seen Federer play that well since nor for a considerable period beforehand. I remember being impressed by his performance against Nadal at Indian Wells.

Every time I watch him play, I'm surprised by the amount of power he has lost. He used to bang forehand winners from absolutely anywhere on the court.
Roger played well all year last year, except from the USO onward. He played well from the 2011 indoor season onward. So for a year he was playing really well and consistently. I don't see how he played better at Wimbledon or IW. It was the same level throughout. He hasn't lost as much power as you imply. He just hasn't played well since the AO.
06-25-2013 06:21 AM
romismak
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

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Yes Andy Murray is superior on grass because he won 7 Wimbledon titles. And Fed played all his finals indoors . Good thinking !!!
Superior on grass comparing with Novak which is fact and 1 Wimby title for Novak doesn´t make difference, when Andy has 3 Queens, Wimby F, OG gold and so on - clearly he is better grass-courter than Nole

About Roger - their SF match might be tough one i think Andy is going to be favorit outdoors and indoors it is more even match
06-25-2013 06:15 AM
chris whiteside
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

I'm almost hoping Gulbis can KO Tsonga in R2.

Although Andy usually beats Tsonga their matches are invariably close and I have a bad feeling that if they meet in the quarters then this is Tsonga's timr to win one.

If Andy does make the semis let's hope it's played "outdoors".
06-25-2013 05:47 AM
pepita1964
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

Yes Andy Murray is superior on grass because he won 7 Wimbledon titles. And Fed played all his finals indoors . Good thinking !!!
06-25-2013 05:44 AM
Tennis-Life
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

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When the roof closed, I've not seen Federer play that well since nor for a considerable period beforehand. I remember being impressed by his performance against Nadal at Indian Wells.

Every time I watch him play, I'm surprised by the amount of power he has lost. He used to bang forehand winners from absolutely anywhere on the court.
true
06-25-2013 05:44 AM
pepita1964
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

How are sure Murray will beat Fed on grass easier? Tsonga can make Murray fight s for his live in QF if Murray gets there. Youzhny can say something as well in 4rd if he plays as he did in Halle. Fed will not be tired as he was in F of OG.
06-25-2013 05:20 AM
romismak
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

Definitely, even before tournament i said he is No.1 favorit for title, now with Rafa gone it is much easier for him QF - Tsonga, he is 4-0 vs him on grass and Tsonga might not even make QF with Gulbis now in R2, SF vs Roger - well he knows he can beat him, if it will be outdoors i say Andy is clear favorit if indoors it is 50-50 match and F if Nole makes it Andy will beat him he is superior on grass
06-25-2013 05:16 AM
shiaben
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

Murray I think will reach the finals just to get destroyed by Djokovic. Probably Djokovic defeating him in 4 sets.

Murray will comfortably handle Tsonga. Tsonga is mentally a pathetic player. He has a complete package but refuses to use it. Murray will get into his head by grinding it out and will eventually defeat him like he has in the past.

Federer is another story. Federer doesn't have the strong body Tsonga has, but if the guy's ego is unleashed, he can make it a close match with Murray. But logic dictates that Murray finally has figured out Federer after handling him in 3 sets at Wimbledon and grinding it against him at Australia.

Federer admires Murray now but he'll definitely pay him respect by giving him a tough fight. Given Federer's first serve isn't memorable, Murray should his own serve to survive. If not he's playing with fire.

Djokovic will be the main issue of course. Djokovic might not be as Godly as last year but he's still dangerous. If his backhand starts clicking again, not just 50% of the time, Murray will be ran out of the building. Key is for Murray to maintain a 65% first serve, and probably a 55% second serve to have chances. Murray should go for more forehand winners, down the line backhand and forehand attacks. Serve and volley on occasion. Keep Djokovic guessing if he wants to grab this opportunity.
06-25-2013 04:52 AM
BrankoMihailovic
Re: Andy's best chance ever to win Wimbledon

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why do you say he has any chance more than in the past?

he still has Roger as a potential SF and dangerous Tsonga QF
Correct. And a potential final with the #1

Try to maintain this level of lucidity now that Rafa's out, it may surprise you.

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Roger isn't playing as well in general this year as he was last year ergo on paper, it's a better chance than last year, but that's not taking into account him raising his level
Fed's sure found his wimbly form quickly after today's performance no? Hopefully he's just peaked way too early
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