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Will Murray ever win a clay title?

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Andy Murray on clay. Will he ever win a clay title?

With all his moon balling and great tactician tennis, wouldn't his game translate well on clay? I don't understand why his results aren't so good on clay. I know he was injuried last year and didn't have a chance to play during the clay court season, but still...
 
#483 ·
Re: Andy Murray on clay. Will he ever win a clay title?

Murray's clay tournaments so far in his career:

2012: RG, 2 Masters, 1 ATP500
2011: RG, 3 M
2010: RG, 3 M
2009: RG, 3 M
2008: RG, 3 M, 1 500
2007: 2 M (injury break)
2006: RG, 3 M, 1 500

Last time he played a smaller tournament than Barcelona was Dresden challenger in May 2005.
 
#486 ·
Re: Andy Murray on clay. Will he ever win a clay title?

Maybe a 500 or even a Master

Why not
 
#487 ·
Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

Time and time again we see the British #1 get pounded on clay. Its his least successful slam surface and he never looks comfortable out there. Is there a reason for his results on clay? When we look at him without the results he should be the clay goat:


- Great defending/ Pushing tendencies: obviously clay is a very slow surface and defenders should thrive here unfortunately for Murray he hasn't made a clay final much less thrived on the surface.

- Growing up on clay: Unlike some of the American men who haven't seen clay court until there mid 20's. Murray grew up playing on the surface at a fairly young age.

- He has declared it is his favorite surface: Should be half decent on your favorite surface, right?


All things considering, why doesn't he have success on this surface like he's had on the hard or grass courts?








* This is not a Murray bashing thread, I respect Murray as a top 20 tennis player. :)
 
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Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

Time and time again we see the British #1 get pounded on clay. Its his least successful slam surface and he never looks comfortable out there. Is there a reason for his results on clay? When we look at him without the results he should be the clay goat:


- Great defending/ Pushing tendencies: obviously clay is a very slow surface and defenders should thrive here unfortunately for Murray he hasn't made a clay final much less thrived on the surface.

- Growing up on clay: Unlike some of the American men who haven't seen clay court until there mid 20's. Murray grew up playing on the surface at a fairly young age.

- He has declared it is his favorite surface: Should be half decent on your favorite surface, right?


All things considering, why doesn't he have success on this surface like he's had on the hard or grass courts?








* This is not a Murray bashing thread, I respect Murray as a top 20 tennis player. :)
His time will come :) He can only get better and better.
 
#495 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

He grew up playing in Barcelona, so i have no idea why he is so bad at it. He is not even a top 20 on clay, it is just bad.
 
#497 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

-_- i said it 1000 times already ..
You can't counterpunch on clay ... everyone who had played the game and have simple sence of tennis and has common logic knows this ... For instance: Simon , Hewitt ......
and last but not least Murray thrives on his opponents power ! and his swings are short and rely on timing ... THE END/FIN/KONEC ! Deal with it you low tennis IQ-ers
 
#513 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

-_- i said it 1000 times already ..
You can't counterpunch on clay ... everyone who had played the game and have simple sence of tennis and has common logic knows this ... For instance: Simon , Hewitt ......
and last but not least Murray thrives on his opponents power ! and his swings are short and rely on timing ... THE END/FIN/KONEC ! Deal with it you low tennis IQ-ers
I'd say Ferrer is more of a bigger counterpuncher than Murray, and he does well on clay:confused:
 
#504 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

Before we completely make him look like a scrub, it's not that strange his game doesn't work well on all surfaces. We've just been spoilt with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic and have expected every one to be able to do this.

A lot of the greats had a poor surface, and it's mostly been clay.

Andy hasn't said clay was his favorite since he was 16 years old.
He was 16 in 2010? Ah, good to know. And here was I thinking there were no teenagers in the top 100
 
#514 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

He did not grow up on clay, that's a misconception. He spent 2 years in Barcelona. He grew up on hard courts.

With his movement being one of his key strengths, he doesn't do well on clay, because he is unable to slide into his shots. His forehand is also not potent enough to hit through the court on a regular basis. Obviously, confidence goes a long way as well.
 
#540 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

He did not grow up on clay, that's a misconception. He spent 2 years in Barcelona. He grew up on hard courts.

With his movement being one of his key strengths, he doesn't do well on clay, because he is unable to slide into his shots. His forehand is also not potent enough to hit through the court on a regular basis. Obviously, confidence goes a long way as well.
All of this.

But particularly the first part.
 
#515 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

Poor movement in contrast with how he is on HCs/grass. Inability to generate many winners. Poor building of points and indecision about where to defend/attack (because his usual counter-punching isn't as effective).
 
#527 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

Maria used to be a cow on clay, but in the last two years it's become her best surface, even winning RG in 2012 - and she has a very good chance of defending it this year.

I don't see why Andy can't get better, his potential is way too good not to win a RG.
 
#536 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

Maria used to be a cow on clay, but in the last two years it's become her best surface, even winning RG in 2012 - and she has a very good chance of defending it this year.

I don't see why Andy can't get better, his potential is way too good not to win a RG.
Used? :spit: :superlol:
 
#548 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

Murray simply has no excuses for getting his ass kicked on clay day and day out. He's probably top 50 on clay. Even a guy like Isner is arguably better on clay than Murray and god knows when he started playing on the surface.
 
#549 ·
Re: Explanation for Murray ineptitude on clay???

Murray simply has no excuses for getting his ass kicked on clay day and day out. He's probably top 50 on clay. Even a guy like Isner is arguably better on clay than Murray and god knows when he started playing on the surface.
This list has him at #18. Or #16, depending on which time period you look at. Probably inflated somewhat due to his seeding, but still.
 
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